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SSwans2011 said:
He and McInerney will be our starting wings I'm guessing.
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Maybe Tomorrow, hopefully other people don't realise what this, and the occasional need to get Gulden and Warner out of our inside set-up depending on tags, likely means for a certain Sydney recruit from last year 🤐
 
buttox said:
Name change bet for all of next year's pre season? Who ever scores higher gets to name the other bloke?
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What handicap you giving me .......2,000 points 🤣

I don't bet, cause I never win ....never ever even brought a lottery ticket .....is that what they're called ?

But I will have you in my rivalry list
 

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SSwans2011 said:
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This is the team I've sat on for the past week or so.

Opening round sucks for the Adams selection, but I'm actually more keen on him than I am Macrae. Especially with the Mills injury. Even once Mills returns, wouldn't surprise me if we continue to use him in the utitly role (I don't think we should, but Longmire seems to like the flexibility there) and Adams stays in our main midfield set-up. Playing every second game at the SCG should suit him very well. Then there's also the fact that he combines well with Grundy. I think at worst he ends up as an M9/F7 keeper and I'd be happy with that at his price, and given that I suspect most of the best forwards come the end of this season will once again end up being players that are not currently DPP but will be.

Coleman was in my first half a dozen or so picked and I've had him as a lock since the end of last seaosn. Smoky for All Australian selection if he stays fit I reckon, especially with Rich gone. I don't want to provide too much justification about his selection, because I'm very confident in him and I'm enjoying not seeing him in man teams.

I want to start Flanders, but I'm weary of starting any Suns midfielders. He's one player that I think opening round is useful for because I'm keen to have a few looks at him (and Miller) before deciding if I'm keen on them.
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Like it.

My worry with Adams is his durability given how hard he goes: he's 30yo, his past 2 finals series have been ended by injury, he did a major groin in mid-2022, a minor hammy and medial in 2021, and a major adductor in 2019. 2020 was his last full season from memory, but he also had injuries in seasons prior to that. Most of those injuries are soft tissue (MCL aside and I recall a finger or hand). If he gets through the first half of the season he is money for old rope, but it's a big 'if' at this stage of his career IMO.
 
BuckleysBrigade said:
Like it.

My worry with Adams is his durability given how hard he goes: he's 30yo, his past 2 finals series have been ended by injury, he did a major groin in mid-2022, a minor hammy and medial in 2021, and a major adductor in 2019. 2020 was his last full season from memory, but he also had injuries in seasons prior to that. Most of those injuries are soft tissue (MCL aside and I recall a finger or hand). If he gets through the first half of the season he is money for old rope, but it's a big 'if' at this stage of his career IMO.
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Yeah, durability is the big question. Forwards are tough this year because I feel like every premium forward (and Adams isn't even in that category) has major question marks.

I'm hoping if Adams does get injured that he'll have lasted long enough to be offloaded to a fresh DPP. We're really going to be relying on DPP updates to fill out our forward lines this year I'm guessing.
 
WaynesWorld19 said:
What handicap you giving me .......2,000 points 🤣

I don't bet, cause I never win ....never ever even brought a lottery ticket .....is that what they're called ?

But I will have you in my rivalry list
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Fair enough. I already had plans to choose 10 names for you and let everyone vote in a poll!
 
SSwans2011 said:
View attachment 1896988

This is the team I've sat on for the past week or so.

Opening round sucks for the Adams selection, but I'm actually more keen on him than I am Macrae. Especially with the Mills injury. Even once Mills returns, wouldn't surprise me if we continue to use him in the utitly role (I don't think we should, but Longmire seems to like the flexibility there) and Adams stays in our main midfield set-up. Playing every second game at the SCG should suit him very well. Then there's also the fact that he combines well with Grundy. I think at worst he ends up as an M9/F7 keeper and I'd be happy with that at his price, and given that I suspect most of the best forwards come the end of this season will once again end up being players that are not currently DPP but will be.

Coleman was in my first half a dozen or so picked and I've had him as a lock since the end of last seaosn. Smoky for All Australian selection if he stays fit I reckon, especially with Rich gone. I don't want to provide too much justification about his selection, because I'm very confident in him and I'm enjoying not seeing him in man teams.

I want to start Flanders, but I'm weary of starting any Suns midfielders. He's one player that I think opening round is useful for because I'm keen to have a few looks at him (and Miller) before deciding if I'm keen on them.
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Fisher is a bust man, jump off now.

Adams, Fisher, Coleman, Steele, Zilliams, maybe LDU all injury risks. I know we have a lot of trades, but that's a lot of risks. Macrae too now.

Is Watson a placeholder? A first year small forward in a bottom half team? Might be better options around IMO.

Other than that great team :moustache:
 
SSwans2011 said:
Maybe Tomorrow, hopefully other people don't realise what this, and the occasional need to get Gulden and Warner out of our inside set-up depending on tags, likely means for a certain Sydney recruit from last year 🤐
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Season 6 What GIF by The Office
 
Maybe Tomorrow said:
Fisher is a bust man, jump off now.

Adams, Fisher, Coleman, Steele, Zilliams, maybe LDU all injury risks. I know we have a lot of trades, but that's a lot of risks. Macrae too now.

Is Watson a placeholder? A first year small forward in a bottom half team? Might be better options around IMO.

Other than that great team :moustache:
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It's interesting .....an argument could be mounted, that players we considered resilient, faltered with injury last year .....Touk Touk, Steele, Oliver, Daicos, Walsh and Preuss

Whilst injury prone players had uninterrupted years

This year is different though .....we have the insurance of 8 x bye rounds, 4 early season, where best 18 will hide players who get injured ....this coupled with 40 trades, allows us to take a couple of risks

Fyfe, Adams, and even Yeo ....at least with ADams, we'll get a preview of role and CBA's in R0
 
Maybe Tomorrow said:
Fisher is a bust man, jump off now.

Adams, Fisher, Coleman, Steele, Zilliams, maybe LDU all injury risks. I know we have a lot of trades, but that's a lot of risks. Macrae too now.

Is Watson a placeholder? A first year small forward in a bottom half team? Might be better options around IMO.

Other than that great team :moustache:
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Yeah, Watson is just a place-holder at the moment. Could end up being any one of the forward rookies at that price, and ideally we end with a few cheaper options.

Fisher is yuck, agreed. Really hate the forward selections this year. Is the 2024 forward crop the weakest in SC history? Has to be close. Will be keeping my eyes on Powell based on what buttox said and the lack of other options.

Swapping Macare for Flanders and downgrading Fisher could allow me to upgrade Steele to Petracca which is something I toyed with when I started having doubts about Macrae, but leaves me with way too many opening round players. Could also go Dawson.

Going to be a lot of headaches this year.
 
WaynesWorld19 said:
It's interesting .....an argument could be mounted, that players we considered resilient, faltered with injury last year .....Touk Touk, Steele, Oliver, Daicos, Walsh and Preuss

Whilst injury prone players had uninterrupted years

This year is different though .....we have the insurance of 8 x bye rounds, 4 early season, where best 18 will hide players who get injured ....this coupled with 40 trades, allows us to take a couple of risks

Fyfe, Adams, and even Yeo ....at least with ADams, we'll get a preview of role and CBA's in R0
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Yep, opening round will be very useful with to have a look at players like Adams. FWIW I don't think there should be any concerns regarding Adams' role. We got him because we got spanked in the contest far too often last year. He'll be our inside bull, and the Mills injury just further guarantees that.

Wouldn't surprise me if Parker spends more time forward this year which would further help Adams' case, but wait and see on that.
 

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SSwans2011 said:
Yeah, Watson is just a place-holder at the moment. Could end up being any one of the forward rookies at that price, and ideally we end with a few cheaper options.

Fisher is yuck, agreed. Really hate the forward selections this year. Is the 2024 forward crop the weakest in SC history? Has to be close. Will be keeping my eyes on Powell based on what buttox said and the lack of other options.

Swapping Macare for Flanders and downgrading Fisher could allow me to upgrade Steele to Petracca which is something I toyed with when I started having doubts about Macrae, but leaves me with way too many opening round players. Could also go Dawson.

Going to be a lot of headaches this year.
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Love and Light for all our North fans on the board, but I ain't falling for another $300k -ish breakout player again. I'll pay a bit more when they are a sure thing.

Yeah R0 is a killer, so many good options but I'm taking the bare minimum there. The MN is so high this year some guys like Green/Gulden/Petracca/Oliver etc will get cheap enough when it drops.

I'm just going to take more forward rookies I think. Cheap mistakes are easier to fix.
 
SSwans2011 said:
Yep, opening round will be very useful with to have a look at players like Adams. FWIW I don't think there should be any concerns regarding Adams' role. We got him because we got spanked in the contest far too often last year. He'll be our inside bull, and the Mills injury just further guarantees that.

Wouldn't surprise me if Parker spends more time forward this year which would further help Adams' case, but wait and see on that.
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If Adams manages to play 6 games as an inside bull, i'll be shocked!
 
Better Loosen Up said:
I'm Adams manages to play 6 games as an inside bull, i'll be shocked!
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Wouldn't think his role will have much to do with his likelihood of getting injured? It's soft tissue injuries that are generally his problem, not contact.
 
Maybe Tomorrow said:
Love and Light for all our North fans on the board, but I ain't falling for another $300k -ish breakout player again. I'll pay a bit more when they are a sure thing.

Yeah R0 is a killer, so many good options but I'm taking the bare minimum there. The MN is so high this year some guys like Green/Gulden/Petracca/Oliver etc will get cheap enough when it drops.

I'm just going to take more forward rookies I think. Cheap mistakes are easier to fix.
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I have been thinking on the options on each line and I have sort of come up with this.
Defence.
Premos
A bunch of guys who can go 110+
Mid pricers.
Only really Chapman and Williams I can spot.
Rookies
Heaps of options it seems to be the best line for rookies this year if you include guys likely to get DPP round 6.
Midfield.
Premos
Heaps of 110 average players. Getting all the 115+ guys should be the goal.
Mid pricers
No one that really stands out to me. A few break out candidates but none are likely to be keepers. Not many low priced midpricers (200-300k) that can't be selected as forwards.
Rookies
Mckercher Sanders and then daylight. At the moment mid bench is full of dpps.
Ruck
Premos
English should outscore all others by about 10 PPG. Just my opinion ofc. I think it's best to take him from the start or take a rookie if he's not running flat out come round 1. Set and forget without English is a trap this year.
Midpricers
Grundy looks the best bet here by a long margin. Smaller ground he will get to every stoppage easily. Syd have a decent midfield so hta should be high
Rookies,
Sweet, Neale, Maley + whatever the ssp throws up.
Forwards
Premos
85+ looks a premo until round 6 at least. Macrae the only must have I can spot and he even has injury concerns.
Midpricers.
Heaps of low end midpricers we seem to be forced to use this year. I could name about 10. We have more of these viable this year because the expected average to be a keeper in the forward line is so low.
Rookies.
A few about. It's not as bad as the mids but it may seem that way because we need to fill our mid bench with f/m rookies just to get 11 mids.

Overall the above has made me decide to do the following. Standard defence. 2 or 3 premos, Chapman and Williams + rookies
Midfield
Bat as deep as I can. Take as many 110 average mids as I can and try to get to 7 premos around r6 when mckercher goes to defence.
Currently 6 premos, mckercher Sanders and dpps
Rucks.
Grundy + a rookie first ruck who doesn't have an early bye. English may come in if fit.
Forwards.
Macrae the only must have premo assuming he's ready to go. Fill the rest of the on field spots with low priced mid pricers who have a chance at 85+. It's a bit of a crap shoot. Harley looks good but I have doubts on his tank. I suspect after I fill my mid bench with dpps I will end up with kpf rookies on my forward bench.
That's my current thinking anyways.
 
buttox said:
I have been thinking on the options on each line and I have sort of come up with this.
Defence.
Premos
A bunch of guys who can go 110+
Mid pricers.
Only really Chapman and Williams I can spot.
Rookies
Heaps of options it seems to be the best line for rookies this year if you include guys likely to get DPP round 6.
Midfield.
Premos
Heaps of 110 average players. Getting all the 115+ guys should be the goal.
Mid pricers
No one that really stands out to me. A few break out candidates but none are likely to be keepers. Not many low priced midpricers (200-300k) that can't be selected as forwards.
Rookies
Mckercher Sanders and then daylight. At the moment mid bench is full of dpps.
Ruck
Premos
English should outscore all others by about 10 PPG. Just my opinion ofc. I think it's best to take him from the start or take a rookie if he's not running flat out come round 1. Set and forget without English is a trap this year.
Midpricers
Grundy looks the best bet here by a long margin. Smaller ground he will get to every stoppage easily. Syd have a decent midfield so hta should be high
Rookies,
Sweet, Neale, Maley + whatever the ssp throws up.
Forwards
Premos
85+ looks a premo until round 6 at least. Macrae the only must have I can spot and he even has injury concerns.
Midpricers.
Heaps of low end midpricers we seem to be forced to use this year. I could name about 10. We have more of these viable this year because the expected average to be a keeper in the forward line is so low.
Rookies.
A few about. It's not as bad as the mids but it may seem that way because we need to fill our mid bench with f/m rookies just to get 11 mids.

Overall the above has made me decide to do the following. Standard defence. 2 or 3 premos, Chapman and Williams + rookies
Midfield
Bat as deep as I can. Take as many 110 average mids as I can and try to get to 7 premos around r6 when mckercher goes to defence.
Currently 6 premos, mckercher Sanders and dpps
Rucks.
Grundy + a rookie first ruck who doesn't have an early bye. English may come in if fit.
Forwards.
Macrae the only must have premo assuming he's ready to go. Fill the rest of the on field spots with low priced mid pricers who have a chance at 85+. It's a bit of a crap shoot. Harley looks good but I have doubts on his tank. I suspect after I fill my mid bench with dpps I will end up with kpf rookies on my forward bench.
That's my current thinking anyways.
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Reckon that's a solid plan.

Re:mid rooks Sharp a lock imo. Has scored well in the past, might even last until Freo's bye.
 
Maybe Tomorrow said:
Reckon that's a solid plan.

Re:mid rooks Sharp a lock imo. Has scored well in the past, might even last until Freo's bye.
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I do have him currently but he's by no means a lock like the defence rookies. 50-60 average I think. A decent price gain but I really wouldn't want him on field.
Historically the best on field rookies are first rucks for there side.
People forget this because set and forget has so much upside.
I say this not because the best scoring rookies ever have been rucks. More because a first ruck at a club does not seem to score below 75-80.
A rookies floor is the most important thing if they are going on field each week. First rucks win for that easily.
 
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buttox said:
I have been thinking on the options on each line and I have sort of come up with this.
Defence.
Premos
A bunch of guys who can go 110+
Mid pricers.
Only really Chapman and Williams I can spot.
Rookies
Heaps of options it seems to be the best line for rookies this year if you include guys likely to get DPP round 6.
Midfield.
Premos
Heaps of 110 average players. Getting all the 115+ guys should be the goal.
Mid pricers
No one that really stands out to me. A few break out candidates but none are likely to be keepers. Not many low priced midpricers (200-300k) that can't be selected as forwards.
Rookies
Mckercher Sanders and then daylight. At the moment mid bench is full of dpps.
Ruck
Premos
English should outscore all others by about 10 PPG. Just my opinion ofc. I think it's best to take him from the start or take a rookie if he's not running flat out come round 1. Set and forget without English is a trap this year.
Midpricers
Grundy looks the best bet here by a long margin. Smaller ground he will get to every stoppage easily. Syd have a decent midfield so hta should be high
Rookies,
Sweet, Neale, Maley + whatever the ssp throws up.
Forwards
Premos
85+ looks a premo until round 6 at least. Macrae the only must have I can spot and he even has injury concerns.
Midpricers.
Heaps of low end midpricers we seem to be forced to use this year. I could name about 10. We have more of these viable this year because the expected average to be a keeper in the forward line is so low.
Rookies.
A few about. It's not as bad as the mids but it may seem that way because we need to fill our mid bench with f/m rookies just to get 11 mids.

Overall the above has made me decide to do the following. Standard defence. 2 or 3 premos, Chapman and Williams + rookies
Midfield
Bat as deep as I can. Take as many 110 average mids as I can and try to get to 7 premos around r6 when mckercher goes to defence.
Currently 6 premos, mckercher Sanders and dpps
Rucks.
Grundy + a rookie first ruck who doesn't have an early bye. English may come in if fit.
Forwards.
Macrae the only must have premo assuming he's ready to go. Fill the rest of the on field spots with low priced mid pricers who have a chance at 85+. It's a bit of a crap shoot. Harley looks good but I have doubts on his tank. I suspect after I fill my mid bench with dpps I will end up with kpf rookies on my forward bench.
That's my current thinking anyways.
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Great summary.

I only disagree with a rookie at R2 - it's a recipe for disaster as none of them are a guarantee to get through multiple games (at this stage they are all back up rucks at best).

If they get dropped after round 2 then you are scrambling to fix everything up.
 
TheArchitect said:
Great summary.

I only disagree with a rookie at R2 - it's a recipe for disaster as none of them are a guarantee to get through multiple games (at this stage they are all back up rucks at best).

If they get dropped after round 2 then you are scrambling to fix everything up.
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The counter argument to this is if a rookie ruck becomes a must have you have to move heaven and earth to get his scores each week.
Not just upgrade r3 and watch him average 80 on your bench. Your really only getting the benefit of him post round 8-9-10 when you trade them as you can't get the points on field.
Ofc all this depends on the options available. I would prefer to go set and forget but imo that's only viable if you can pick the best 2 rucks round 1. Fading English is not the plan.
I think it's also easier to pick ruck rookies. Most teams run with maximum 2 rucks. Most teams run 10 midfielders.
If for example gawn goes down you can lock in his replacement for the length of his injury. It's pretty obvious who it is.
But if petracca goes down it could be 10 different blokes replacing him.
 
buttox said:
I do have him currently but he's by no means a lock like the defence rookies. 50-60 average I think. A decent price gain but I really wouldn't want him on field.
Historically the best on field rookies are first rucks for there side.
People forget this because set and forget has so much upside.
I say this not because the best scoring rookies ever have been rucks. More because a first ruck at a club does not seem to score below 75-80.
A rookies floor is the most important thing if they are going on field each week. First rucks win for that easily.
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Only issue is ....historically Rookies get managed, and play blocks of games B4 being rested

So how do you handle that scenario .....there's no guarantee, an el cheapo R3 is going to be available, when you need him
 

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