Preview 2024 Rd 16 Carlton v Richmond Sunday 30th June 3:20PM AEST @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …


IN: Adam Cerra
OUT: Corey Durdin

MILESTONE: Zac Williams 150 AFL Games

AFL team selection: Cerra returns

Carlton has welcomed back Adam Cerra for the Round 16 clash with Richmond.

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Backs:	Lachie Cowan	Jacob Weitering	Jordan Boyd
Half-backs:	Adam Saad	Mitch McGovern	Nic Newman
Centreline:	Ollie Hollands	Patrick Cripps	Blake Acres
Half-forwards:	Lachie Fogarty	Harry McKay	Zac Williams
Forwards:	Elijah Hollands	Charlie Curnow	Matthew Owies
Followers:	Tom De Koning	Sam Walsh	Adam Cerra
Interchange from:	Alex Cincotta	Orazio Fantasia	George Hewett
	Brodie Kemp	Matthew Kennedy
Emergencies:	Caleb Marchbank	Jesse Motlop	Marc Pittonet

 

[windows1]

I have been thinking a lot about what it is that makes us so hard to beat.

I think Voss prioritises something that we may not have talked a lot about (apologies if we have).

Yes players who can APPLy pressure. But as much as that….players who can cope with pressure. We need guys who will not fumble with high pressure, won’t break the chain, can make good decisions with ball in hand. Create options for team mates.

Guys like Fog and E Hollands are super at that under pressure. They compliment the stars so well and dramatically reduce the probability of us losing control of the ball in chains under pressure.

 

[Coops93]

The response from Voss r.e. Walsh was one of the main reasons I wanted him. Someone with the hard edge to make a firm statement, and not just make that statement, but have the runs on the board to back it up.

I thought that attitude was something we needed to turn things around and I'm so glad he's with us.

 

[katmanblue]

Don't tell anyone, but I heard he is the son of Voss.

Worked in SOS's car wash.

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[katmanblue]

Orazio Fantasia

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Orazio Fantasia

Age

29

Ht

180cm

Wt

73kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.1

5star

G

1.4

5star

D

9.8

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

2star

G

0.2

3star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.0

1star

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Can someone please explain this to me? I am struggling to comprehend what is going on here. And each week our injury list gets smaller it gets harder to fathom.

The only near-logical explanation I have read on here is that Orazio is playing as a high half-forward. Durdin/Motts can't play that role and we're waiting for Cottrell/Martin to replace him.

But given that Orazio is averaging 0.2 goals per game and contributing little else surely we would look at other options instead of like-for-like replacements only?

Fogarty doesn't kick goals but his role as a defensive forward is obvious as is his value. After 11 tries I still do not understand what role Orazio is doing.

Surely we can't get away with having two non-goal-kicking forwards against good teams. But we've played top 4 sides the last 4 weeks and averaging 111 ppg so maybe we can.

Maybe I just don't like Orazio. He did play for Essendon...

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Do go to games or just watch on TV? Much of his work would get missed on TV.

Smart player. runs to space, make defenders go with him. Quick hands, great kick inside 50. Puts on blocks and shepherds. You won't find these on a stat's sheet.

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[Stamos]

Yep, the Hudson O'Keeffe signing makes a lot of sense.

I wouldn't begrudge Pitto leaving. He would be first ruck at the majority of clubs.

I would.
He signed a 4 year contract extension a year ago.

Since then, how many games has he played in the VFL when fully fit?

 

[JustOneTime]

I have been thinking a lot about what it is that makes us so hard to beat.

I think Voss prioritises something that we may not have talked a lot about (apologies if we have).

Yes players who can APPLy pressure. But as much as that….players who can cope with pressure. We need guys who will not fumble with high pressure, won’t break the chain, can make good decisions with ball in hand. Create options for team mates.

Guys like Fog and E Hollands are super at that under pressure. They compliment the stars so well and dramatically reduce the probability of us losing control of the ball in chains under pressure.

I think pressure is the main one for our side. But we have two others strings. We have two coleman medalists up fwd who can fire for 15 mins in a game and turn it on its head (get out of jail free card). And we also have a midfield stoppage team that is brutal at winning clearances most times (but not always). The addition of cinc vs fast midfield sides is seemingly a masterstroke.

I think we are trying to hold the line as a defensive line and hold the line as a turnover/transition goal kicking side. By hold, I mean rank somewhere towards the top 8 sides.

Carlton for ten years have dominated 'some' games with huge effort and then an opposition side flicks the switch for 20 mins and creams us. Now it is our turn!!!!

 

[katmanblue]

no rain please..

Here you go.



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[katmanblue]

Happy to get a win without injuries.

This is the gold standard.

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[katmanblue]

Enjoy every moment… that goal last week Where he slices through 2 guys quickly onto the left 45 metres was just ridiculous…

He dribbled it like a basketball, gathered and snapped it all ine one motion. Unbelievable.

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[lily of laguna]

I don’t understand the calls for Kemp to be a possible out at all. His kicking was a worry for me but he has cleaned it up big time over the past 6 weeks.

He sometimes gets outsized one v one but he hasn’t lost more than 1 in any week this year.

He was previously playing too erratically on going for too many out there intercepts but not any more.

He was sometimes losing his man but not any more.

He’s not getting big goal numbers kicked against.

He’s developing really well this year.

Get a real problem. Marchy is backup only now.

I’m not saying Kemp should come out of the team.

But given Marchbank’s current health they may choose to include him at Kemp’s expense in the next couple of weeks.


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[SkyhorseTamer]

Thats funny!

He lined up on JEZ last week! For the simple reason that Kemp would have been absolutely pantsed by him.

The question that everyone needs to consider is, do we want Kemp as our 3rd tall, which means McG becomes or CHB or do we want McG as our 3rd rebounding tall which means Marchy is our CHB.

I prefer the better aerialists, so it’s Marchy for me…

Not expecting him to play this week but will be in our best side…

Marchy isn't a better aerialist. He's also got the strength of a high schooler at the moment. This is a really weird line of 'logic'

 

[I bleed Blue]

Orazio Fantasia.

Can someone please explain this to me? I am struggling to comprehend what is going on here. And each week our injury list gets smaller it gets harder to fathom.

The only near-logical explanation I have read on here is that Orazio is playing as a high half-forward. Durdin/Motts can't play that role and we're waiting for Cottrell/Martin to replace him.

But given that Orazio is averaging 0.2 goals per game and contributing little else surely we would look at other options instead of like-for-like replacements only?

Fogarty doesn't kick goals but his role as a defensive forward is obvious as is his value. After 11 tries I still do not understand what role Orazio is doing.

Surely we can't get away with having two non-goal-kicking forwards against good teams. But we've played top 4 sides the last 4 weeks and averaging 111 ppg so maybe we can.

Maybe I just don't like Orazio. He did play for Essendon...

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I personally haven't been very impressed with Orazio.

However in Orazios defence it's a bit harsh to judge him on stats.

Can't really be stuffed looking up the exact numbers, but Fantasia has been subbed out or started as sub in quite alot of games.

Stats would probably be higher if he was playing full games.

Still not convinced he's in our best 22. Cotrell takes his spot. Or Martin once he's fit. Even motlop once he finds some form.

 

[Kernafides]

Marchbank is an interceptor... he's not a chb...he is awful one on one...at the moment we have him covered

 

[Benaly28]

Marchbank is an interceptor... he's not a chb...he is awful one on one...at the moment we have him covered

Amen


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[BigFrizz36]

Marchbank is an interceptor... he's not a chb...he is awful one on one...at the moment we have him covered

Three senior games ago Marchy was amongst our best in a prelim final with 20 touches and 8 marks playing at centre half back against Eric Hipwood.

 

[KnaveyBlue]

I would.
He signed a 4 year contract extension a year ago.

Since then, how many games has he played in the VFL when fully fit?

I feel you, but I still wouldn't begrudge him. Ruck would have to be the most miserable position to play in footy, and your career is generally pretty limited.

You get one window in your late 20's to be the man, and he did the right thing and committed to the club. Unfortunately for Pitto, DeKoning decided to become a complete freak.

I hope he stays around for another year at least, but we have to be realistic given the garbage that is circulating in ruck stocks across the league. There's no way every other club will sit by and watch Pitto light up Princes Park.

 

[Stamos]

I feel you, but I still wouldn't begrudge him. Ruck would have to be the most miserable position to play in footy, and your career is generally pretty limited.

You get one window in your late 20's to be the man, and he did the right thing and committed to the club. Unfortunately for Pitto, DeKoning decided to become a complete freak.

I hope he stays around for another year at least, but we have to be realistic given the garbage that is circulating in ruck stocks across the league. There's no way every other club will sit by and watch Pitto light up Princes Park.

At the very best (worst? Most?) he will have spent half a season in the 2s, after multiple injuries, with 3 years left on his contract.

Players shouldn’t be choosing to walk due to that. And we would need massive overs to let him go.

 

[Funk]

We’ll have the channel 7 game I assume

Please don’t tell me I have to listen to “state the bleeding obvious”, hypodermic needle loving, nepotistic prince of Ch 7 Jobe ****ing Watson on Sunday?

If yes - then SEN Sync will get a good workout!!!!!

 

[Dunna Heartknee]

I feel you, but I still wouldn't begrudge him. Ruck would have to be the most miserable position to play in footy, and your career is generally pretty limited.

You get one window in your late 20's to be the man, and he did the right thing and committed to the club. Unfortunately for Pitto, DeKoning decided to become a complete freak.

I hope he stays around for another year at least, but we have to be realistic given the garbage that is circulating in ruck stocks across the league. There's no way every other club will sit by and watch Pitto light up Princes Park.

The way he played against the Cats earlier in the season, he could be high on their radar.
Very doubtful it will happen but, would not put it out of the realm of possibility.

 

[KnaveyBlue]

At the very best (worst? Most?) he will have spent half a season in the 2s, after multiple injuries, with 3 years left on his contract.

Players shouldn’t be choosing to walk due to that. And we would need massive overs to let him go.

You're a hard man my bro, and I respect it.

 

[Thrawn]

Please don’t tell me I have to listen to “state the bleeding obvious”, hypodermic needle loving, nepotistic prince of Ch 7 Jobe ****ing Watson on Sunday?

If yes - then SEN Sync will get a good workout!!!!!

SEN sync didn't even work for me at the G last week, was just silence.

 

[lily of laguna]

Watched Marchy the last couple of weeks and he has been bog ordinary. No way in hell will he be picked ahead of Kemp, unless Kemp is too sore to play.

Not trying to argue with you, and certainly not saying Kemp should come out but weren’t Marchy and Pitto mentioned as the best 2 players last week ?


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[lukep_86]

I still don’t think Charlie has hit his straps yet, and he’s leading the Coleman by 5 goals at the end of R15.

I think he’s due for big haul soon, maybe 8 or 9 goals..

I think so too...and for lots of reasons, including my super coach team, I hope he does it

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

SEN sync didn't even work for me at the G last week, was just silence.

Try the volume button

 

[teddy-hopkins]

I feel you, but I still wouldn't begrudge him. Ruck would have to be the most miserable position to play in footy, and your career is generally pretty limited.

You get one window in your late 20's to be the man, and he did the right thing and committed to the club. Unfortunately for Pitto, DeKoning decided to become a complete freak.

I hope he stays around for another year at least, but we have to be realistic given the garbage that is circulating in ruck stocks across the league. There's no way every other club will sit by and watch Pitto light up Princes Park.

He'd walk into the team at Port, Crows, Geel, WC & Tigs at a minimum.