Was okay before injury, but since then has been by far the best Hawthorn defender and would be top 3 easily for the competition. Continues this form and he makes it.
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AFLW 2024 - Round 4 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
2024 Rolling ALL-Australian Team
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eth-dog
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33rd amongst defenders for score involvements
17th for score launches
=16th for intercept marks
=12th for intercepts
Nah, he's nowhere near where he needs to be for AA. Wouldn't be in the squad at this point.
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= 12 for intercepts is surprising I'll need to double check that. I thought he had been better at the offensive side than that.
Edit: I have him on equal 4th for int possession but that's AVG if you have totals.
I think AVG is better but with a game filter for 70% of the season players like Mac Andrew and Sam Taylor have only played 11 games but are elite interceptors.
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Walsh is one of the worst kicks in the league, even without the missed games he isnt AA.
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He’s not AA but not to rub it in, neither is any crows player. Rankine borderline AA at best and he’s missed games
eth-dog
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Totals are more relevant than averages.
You don’t need to play all games to make AA, missing games automatically puts you behind players in total, but that doesn’t diminish the quality of the season.
Averages are much more relevant than totals.
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I think it's more nuanced than that, totals would be more important than an avg of some player who has only played a handful of games against a subset of the competition but if it's set around 70% of the season which is a criteria for AA than avg is more relevant.
Just so you know I'm not here campaigning for sics selection I was just surprised by your stat.
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Yet he's got 53 coaches votes in 10 games
the 2nd highest per game to only Heeney
eth-dog
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No, they aren't. You just want them to be because it lends to your argument.
I have always said this and always will continue to, in any conversation or discussion. Averaging something out is a much more effective tool than total, whilst also taking into account games played.Youre just doing totals because its lending to your “argument”, see how dumb it sounds?
Just said it, but games played are taken into account, but in that case it comes down to a good sample size.
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One of the worst kicks in the league - sheesh!Yet he's got 53 coaches votes in 10 games
Drinking bath water in Adelaide has a whole new meaning - have you seen their water, pre-bathing?
Yet he's got 53 coaches votes in 10 games
Lol, you both know his kicking is terrible. No one can dispute that. And his efficiency his boosted by his long kicks to contests which are classed as effective.
There are 18 midfielders with a higher player rating, despite Walsh being #3 for average disposals. Only kicked 3 goals for the season as well.
Sorry he doesn't deserve AA, every non Carlton Fan agrees.
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Walsh's kicking has been poor compared to normal this season, no one is disagreeing with that. But his impact on games has still been immense, hence why multiple coaches have chosen to tag him already.Lol, you both know his kicking is terrible. No one can dispute that. And his efficiency his boosted by his long kicks to contests which are classed as effective.
There are 18 midfielders with a higher player rating, despite Walsh being #3 for average disposals. Only kicked 3 goals for the season as well.
Sorry he doesn't deserve AA, every non Carlton Fan agrees.
Coaches votes, Brownlow predictors etc are testament to his impact this season despite his ordinary kicking most weeks.
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No I think “terrible” is overkill & shows your hand - a whole lot of nada.Lol, you both know his kicking is terrible. No one can dispute that. And his efficiency his boosted by his long kicks to contests which are classed as effective.
There are 18 midfielders with a higher player rating, despite Walsh being #3 for average disposals. Only kicked 3 goals for the season as well.
Sorry he doesn't deserve AA, every non Carlton Fan agrees.
He’s come off back issues pre-season and a late start as an outcome.
He’s suffered some heavy tags - worked through those & had another brilliant game last week.
Must be a reason coaches & footy journos disagree with you?
What could that be?
Totals favour players who play every game and aren’t a be all and all in regards to quality. Averages using games is a much more specific and effective way to measure quality.
Player 1
Totals - games (12/14)
350 disposals
25 goals
Avg
29.1 disposals
2.08 goals
Player 2
Totals - games (14/14)
395 disposals
27 goals
Avg
28.21 disposals
1.9 goals
2 games discrepancy, 1 better averages, 2 better totals.
All the top mids get tagged, and his preseason limitations are not relevant in AA discussion
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Answer the question - coaches & football journos disagree with you.
Why do you think that is?
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So if trends continue the way they are and Walsh finishes top 5 in the coaches votes for the season in one of the best teams in the comp, but his kicking remains ordinary you think he'll miss the team?
Yes players who play every game are more valuable than players who don't play every game.
Because the player who plays every game winds up with more output.
It's not really a difficult thing to grasp and I am sure you would be fine with it if it didn't happen to go against your argument.
Quality, by the way, is a concept that means nothing without a definition.
