Training 2024 training updates.

[Bianconeri]

We had a list younger than the Baby Bombers, and almost lost a Grand Final had it not been for a miraculous bounce.

The bounce wasn’t miraculous, it bounced the way you’d expect from a mongrel punt.

They were only that close because our missed shots anyways. We comfortable beat both Geelong and St Kilda in the second half of that year and and flogged both Geelong and St Kilda in the finals.

It was miraculous St Kilda got a draw in the first place.

 

[schmiddi18]

He spent a good amount of time being trialled as a defender at Melbourne. Wasn’t a permanent thing because they used him more as a dour negator instead of letting him use his natural gifts as an intercept player.

Howe on form-finding mission down back

Jeremy Howe hopes a move to defence will see him return to form

www.afl.com.au

I’ll even grace you with a link because you’re a good egg who made an effort to find something yourself.

Didn't know that at all. It's buried that Melbourne trialled him there because too many articles like to say that we were the ones to first do it and draw on his time forward in Tasmania, then Melbourne.

His career lowlight would be the game against Geelong in 2011. Not a good game for him or Melbourne.

 

[schmiddi18]

Is that you KinderSmock ?

Who who what what?

 

[Pendles!]

We had a list younger than the Baby Bombers, and almost lost a Grand Final had it not been for a miraculous bounce.

We were still clearly the best team in it. We beat both Geelong and saints during the HA and smacked Geelong in the prelim.

 

[manicpie]

I don't know about that. Standards were different and we're not comparing apples with apples. I'm mildly confident a few from our team of the century could make the grade today, particularly if they had the training on offer. You'd see natural improvement if their only focus for work was to play footy, not play as a side hussle.

Running ability has become the focus and this has seen some strength work forgone. Players don't need to be jacked these days to make it. Will Hoskin-Elliott is not a strong man but he can run and that's been his career. In the 1980s, he wouldn't have had a career because of the tough nature (no offence to him). Old footy was a tough game where you needed a big body to play, now days it's more about speed. The labouring some blokes did would have built them up well for it but they wouldn't have been as good at running given their jobs wouldn't have allowed them to practice. Most would have had decent endurance given that was needed to work and play.

I also think a contributing factor to the athleticism is the looking at how healthcare has changed since the 1970s and 80s. More smoking, arguably more drinking, less access to nutritional advice, less physio etc. Many factors come into it.

What has changed is a much better development system for todays kids. Back then it was all about natural ability. If you stood out as a junior you might get a spot in the under 19's or the VFA, which was paying pretty good at the time.

 

[manicpie]

From the little footy of seen of the 80’s he’d be an absolute star. The game was much less contested and there were much less tackles. He’s have much more space to operate in and barely anyone would would be able to keep up with him. He’d dominate on the ground and in the air. He’d have to watch out for more cheap shots though.

Are we talking about WHE?, if so, he is one that would have been a great player in the 80's. The 80's wasn't any tougher than today but a lot more snipers as you said. There was a lot of hero's going around back then but I wouldn't say they were tougher than today's players

 

[Markfs]

Bigfooty is a place of speculation, sometimes that’s about the past and sometimes that about the future. Given we’ve only got some pre season training vids to watch atm there’s gonna be a lot of it.

wise words, trent jnr. It's our role to speculate.

 

[Vicky Park]

The list age is skewed by Pendles being 83. Him and Steele were running around like 21yos in the last quarter of the granny

They were indeed. And then there’s Wade…

 

[Mick F]

Having played a lot of football in the 70's and 80's and with a few ex Collingwood players, I have to say that the standard back then, compared to today is miles apart. It really didn't have the athleticism and quality of today's footy. We had a lot of naturally gifted players but we probably wouldn't even make today's VFL team. Not trying to be negative but I think perspective has to be brought into it. It didn't help that most were having a smoke at half time

Agree. At 6’ I was a large ruck rover, and with the leap CHB and CHF the next level down. Now no chance.

Brian Cruwys similar. Captain of Hawthorn Thirds, but back to country footy where he kicked the odd goal or five.

 

[Mick F]

From the little footy of seen of the 80’s he’d be an absolute star. The game was much less contested and there were much less tackles. He’s have much more space to operate in and barely anyone would would be able to keep up with him. He’d dominate on the ground and in the air. He’d have to watch out for more cheap shots though.

Certainly more space for wingers. Nowadays it seems like a centre bounce intensity all over the ground.

 

[Jelly Bean]

That’s a big call - to have ever played for the Pies. In the modern era perhaps - whenever that is from, 1970s? 1980s? But otherwise I agree we have lucked out with these two crossing paths. We saw the magic in the GF. But I’m just not sure if Pendles can keep going, although the guy is a freak.

And let's not forget, we had Bucks and Pendles overlap for a few years - that's a pretty highly ranked duo in the all-time-pies scheme of things.

And P Daics and Bucks overlapped before that for a year or two also...

 

[Professor Knowall]

… Wade wrecked them until exhaustion as he likes to do on Fridays; which involves lots of running at the start and at the end of the session. …

Excellent strategy - make ‘em too tired too stay up late and get into possible trouble on weekends.

 

[manicpie]

Agree. At 6’ I was a large ruck rover, and with the leap CHB and CHF the next level down. Now no chance.

Brian Cruwys similar. Captain of Hawthorn Thirds, but back to country footy where he kicked the odd goal or five.

The Junior programs these days are exceptional. As you know mate, we were quite a few levels below the blokes these days . I witnessed a certain Collingwood player who was suspended for 10 years kick 100 goals twice from memory but the step up to VFL wasn't as easy as he imagined.

 

[Pistol Night]

They were indeed. And then there’s Wade…

Aka Mr Miyagi

 

[Maggie5]

It is great reading about who is training well at the moment but the key thing for me is please no more injuries.

 

[schmiddi18]

The Junior programs these days are exceptional. As you know mate, we were quite a few levels below the blokes these days . I witnessed a certain Collingwood player who was suspended for 10 years kick 100 goals twice from memory but the step up to VFL wasn't as easy as he imagined.

Had to Google who would be suspended for 10 years and what they did to deserve that. Not a place in the game for it ever. If you seriously think it's a good idea to kick someone in the nuts and then compound your woes by assaulting umpires (assuming it was Bourke), then you're not up to VFL standard. Certainly not AFL standard.

 

[manicpie]

Had to Google who would be suspended for 10 years and what they did to deserve that. Not a place in the game for it ever. If you seriously think it's a good idea to kick someone in the nuts and then compound your woes by assaulting umpires (assuming it was Bourke), then you're not up to VFL standard. Certainly not AFL standard.

It actually went against his nature. He just lost it for some unknown reason. Great bloke

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[Hardas]

It is great reading about who is training well at the moment but the key thing for me is please no more injuries.

Keen to hear how Murph is tracking as well.

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

It would have all been done well before that. He knew his time was up at the Pies well before that. Probably knew mid season

"Adams, who was the Magpies’ vice-captain before he pursued a move to the Swans, said he bore no hard feelings towards his former club but remained devastated by how his season ended.

The 30-year-old clarified the steps he took to leave Collingwood, insisting he had not committed to leaving until the days after his side won the grand"

Not something I'd expect a VC to do. Thank god Pies never made him captains, as he was a consideration.

 

[Fruit]

It actually went against his nature. He just lost it for some unknown reason. Great bloke

I often wondered if he was reported regularly at suburban level after his Pies days. That day suggested he could lose his cool easily. Do you know?

 

[Kirby]

I often wondered if he was reported regularly at suburban level after his Pies days. That day suggested he could lose his cool easily. Do you know?

Funny enough I had lunch last Friday with a guy that played footy with him who says he got king hit by Bourke at a pub.

It’s funny that this conversation came out of the blue only a few days ago and suddenly he gets referenced on this board.

 

[schmiddi18]

Keen to hear how Murph is tracking as well.

If the AFL could hurry up and make a decision, he’d have a lot more clarity. I’m guessing he’s not partaking in contact drills but other than that, as normal.

 

[Kirby]

If the AFL could hurry up and make a decision, he’d have a lot more clarity. I’m guessing he’s not partaking in contact drills but other than that, as normal.

The AFL don’t make a decision.

The Panel is a bunch of independent specialists who make recommendations.

 

[schmiddi18]

The AFL don’t make a decision.

The Panel is a bunch of independent specialists who make recommendations.

How much more is there to realistically review, AFL or not? That said, whatever way they lean is opening a can of worms. Not allowing him to play acknowledges concussion is a growing issue and potentially opens the door for legal hassles, allowing him to be play could be deemed negligent later and also opens the door for legal issues.