Discussion 2025 Fantasy Pre-Season Planning Discussion

[stallon]

#1 in terms of cbas yes. #1 in terms of most damaging... no. But he is now. Even if he's a hack kicker, he is now Richmonds only damaging player in the middle. Martins gone, Hopper and Prestia are always injured or very low ToG. Taranto will be the only player doing anything for them in a team full of rookies. Yeo and LDU during their clubs worst seasons couldn't even crack 100+. They mostly stayed around the 95-100 range which I feel is where Taranto is now.

Yeo and ldu are different types of players to Taranto. That was my point, they got attention because they are elite attacking clearance players, Taranto doesn't do that so won't cop attention.
Clubs dont care about the guy getting 30 touches a week with 50% disposal efficiency, they never have especially at the start of the year when clubs back in their own system rather than trying to shut down the opposition's best players

 

[stallon]

Any idea if the heat maps suggest TT gets back enough? I don't recall him being defensive enough for where the ball is going to live a lot..

I havent seen heat maps, just from watching him it doesn't feel like he gets back much though. You'd probably know better than me.
Might be a thing where he knows he's the #1 guy in the team now, maybe that means he tries to do a bit more than he usually would? Like trying to be a leader or something?
Or maybe he just wants to touch the ball so he naturally follows it back to d50, idk.

Surely he won't just sit in the middle of the ground the whole time while the ball is in d50

I'm happy enough to pick him based off what I know he is at this stage anyway

 

[Phar Ace]

#1 in terms of cbas yes. #1 in terms of most damaging... no. But he is now. Even if he's a hack kicker, he is now Richmonds only damaging player in the middle. Martins gone, Hopper and Prestia are always injured or very low ToG. Taranto will be the only player doing anything for them in a team full of rookies. Yeo and LDU during their clubs worst seasons couldn't even crack 100+. They mostly stayed around the 95-100 range which I feel is where Taranto is now.

Based on some training sims up on the Sunny Coast, we'll see a bit more of 24year old Jack Ross roll through there. What our best midfield ends up could be so different to where we start. Taranto, Prestia and Hopper is a slow, worrying group of three and hopefully we will only see one of the two pivoting around Taranto and others like McAuliffe, Ross, Smillie, Lalor and Sonsie.

 

[Barrybran]

 

[tigs2010]

Is JHF "value"?

He's almost 5th banana as a mid given Drew and Wines are shit anywhere else.

 

[Barrybran]

Is JHF "value"?

He's almost 5th banana as a mid given Drew and Wines are shit anywhere else.

Depends how Port use him. He's too good to be playing forward forever. With Butters and Rozee about, he's only got about five points upside at best, I think.

 

[Tex Danger]

Is JHF "value"?

He's almost 5th banana as a mid given Drew and Wines are shit anywhere else.

Unless I see him dominate midfield in PS I’m in the not value camp. Or at least not big value/must have type

Has the potential to pop but think he’s still the impact player they are also happy to use forward a fair amount

But he has spoken about focusing on building his tank so he can impact more consistently so if there’s strong signs of that coming to fruition and a desire to build their main midfield around him I’m open minded to make a way to get him in

 

[Zevon]

Is JHF "value"?

He's almost 5th banana as a mid given Drew and Wines are shit anywhere else.

Surely one of Wines or Drew ends up being transitioned out a bit this year? As in, transitioned out of the team altogether. They’re both slower than a dromedary in quicksand. Port look way more dynamic with JHF in the middle.

Still tend to agree with others that there’s likely only a few points upside though, with only a rough hope of being that pick that really goes off.

 

[happy_eagle]

Is JHF "value"?

He's almost 5th banana as a mid given Drew and Wines are shit anywhere else.

He's value in the sense that I think he's priced at his minimum average.

The question is how much value is he. I only see him improving by about 5ppg to 95, which will still make him a Top 6 forward. But its a question of whether you want to start someone you think only has 5ppg upside.

If you think he goes triple figures, he's probably a must have.

 

[Coasters7]

Unsure if the conversation has already been had (if it has please feel free to direct me to it) but if you had to pick say three mids to get their average back above 110 this year, who would you grab?

I feel like Andy Brayshaw seems an early favourite among the community.

I've currently got Walsh, Bray and Taranto in my starting midfield. I can see a pathway to 110 for all of them. I also like Tom Green but less keen given he's got that first bye.

Bont for sure. Still had the ceiling and consistency but for some reason had the shocking floor once or twice last year that really cooked his average. Priced at 107 and could easily hit 115+ again

 

[stallon]

Surely one of Wines or Drew ends up being transitioned out a bit this year? As in, transitioned out of the team altogether. They’re both slower than a dromedary in quicksand. Port look way more dynamic with JHF in the middle.

Still tend to agree with others that there’s likely only a few points upside though, with only a rough hope of being that pick that really goes off.

I dont think they can remove Wines and Drew, idk why theyd want to either. Would just stuff up their midfield.

They both balance out that Port midfield, you cant just have 3 more attacking mids, theres a reason Port never put Butters, Rozee and JHF at the same centre bounce. Wines and Drew cant do 100% either, theyll have to get their roughly 50% each.

Drew does the defensive work and Wines is a bit harder in and under, I think theyd rather JHF, Rozee and Butters being freed up to take the ball forward rather than do the grunt work

 

[stallon]

Is JHF "value"?

He's almost 5th banana as a mid given Drew and Wines are shit anywhere else.

I think he is about what he is. He needs to score better than his starting average to maintain his price remember, if he goes at 89.5 again he will drop a decent amount of cash.

I dont think Wines or Drew move out of the middle, if JHF is to get more time in there itll be at the expense of that 6th guy imo, Mead got 18% CBAs last year.

Maybe they could use JHF better as a forward, he only scored 25 goals last year, I dont think its impossible for him to get that to 35+ while still doing 50% CBAs.

 

[JADED]

Macrae & JHF both on pre season watch for me.
Both strong candidates with their bye situation and I really don't want Macrae so hope someone pops.

Nic Martin $1.1m + Macrae $742k ($1,842,000)
JHF $919k + Short $825k ($1,744,000)

Short would be an ideal play with the Rd 14 bye opening up a trade to Sheez/NWM/Sinclair/Clarke/Ryan who would've had theirs by then.