Discussion 2025 Fantasy Pre-Season Planning Discussion

[stallon]

Some more defence mid-pricers will popup, at the very least the guy from Port who joins Farrell as the half back designated kicker(especially if Farrell is injured) will make himself known.

Mills is the cheapest D5 ive had all pre-season other than the 30 mins I had Doedee there yesterday

 

[Shaunn]

I would love to have two rookies in the defender line however I don’t think there is any real security in any of the rookies.
Is El-Hawli a definite starter? B.Allen is most likely to get games but will he even create much cash gen with his low scoring? Traviglia even best 22??? Or is he a sub risk?

I have more confidence playing two rookies in the forward line, seems like there is more security there. Players like Stone, Hewitt, Curtin (still a sub risk), Davidson (WB apparently will play wing). Also with a bit of insecurity of knowing who will be F1 will give you some time to sit back and watch

See i have the same issue with the forwards as the backs, only really trust the one rookie on each line.
Reason why id rather get the 2-3 mid rooks, but then theirs obviously more value in the middle with mid pricers this year so you want to try to fit them all in.

I think you can miss out on 1-2 of the mid pricers in the middle and just pivot early rounds if the ones you have fail, the risk factor is way less than starting with an extra rook in the forwards or backs imo.

 

[stallon]

See i have the same issue with the forwards as the backs, only really trust the one rookie on each line.
Reason why id rather get the 2-3 mid rooks, but then theirs obviously more value in the middle with mid pricers this year so you want to try to fit them all in.

I think you can miss out on 1-2 of the mid pricers in the middle and just pivot early rounds if the ones you have fail, the risk factor is way less than starting with an extra rook in the forwards or backs imo.

I think theres actually a bunch of options in the forward line, just not necessarily the usual 300k or under rookies.
Finding a guy priced at 40 who can go 60 is better than a rookie priced at 30 who is a sub risk or will have a shit fantasy role with 50 or lower as their likely average, like most forward rookies.

Ive got a bit of a watchlist of guys sub 500k who imo have as much upside as the 5/6/7th best mid rookies, IF they play the role I think they will. Ill probably slot one of them into my f5/6 spot once I know more about their roles.

 

[bettingonbetts]

I think theres actually a bunch of options in the forward line, just not necessarily the usual 300k or under rookies.
Finding a guy priced at 40 who can go 60 is better than a rookie priced at 30 who is a sub risk or will have a shit fantasy role with 50 or lower as their likely average, like most forward rookies.

Ive got a bit of a watchlist of guys sub 500k who imo have as much upside as the 5/6/7th best mid rookies, IF they play the role I think they will. Ill probably slot one of them into my f5/6 spot once I know more about their roles.

Care to share some names?

I’m assuming Erasmus, McInnes, Dewar, Maric….?

 

[bettingonbetts]

See i have the same issue with the forwards as the backs, only really trust the one rookie on each line.
Reason why id rather get the 2-3 mid rooks, but then theirs obviously more value in the middle with mid pricers this year so you want to try to fit them all in.

I think you can miss out on 1-2 of the mid pricers in the middle and just pivot early rounds if the ones you have fail, the risk factor is way less than starting with an extra rook in the forwards or backs imo.

I definitely agree with you that there is more security with the mid rookies but with the mid price madness and value in the premiums I just think we try and get as thick as we can in the mids
It’s a tough one for sure.

 

[Barrybran]

Care to share some names?

I’m assuming Erasmus, McInnes, Dewar, Maric….?

Is this finally the year for Finlay Macrae?

Spoiler

I don't think so

 

[stallon]

Care to share some names?

I’m assuming Erasmus, McInnes, Dewar, Maric….?

Haha yeah something like that, a few others im not certain on in there too.
The type of guys im sure everybody will know about closer to the season once more roles are known and squads are named.

Maric is the only one in my team right now anyway

 

[Phar Ace]

See i have the same issue with the forwards as the backs, only really trust the one rookie on each line.
Reason why id rather get the 2-3 mid rooks, but then theirs obviously more value in the middle with mid pricers this year so you want to try to fit them all in.

I think you can miss out on 1-2 of the mid pricers in the middle and just pivot early rounds if the ones you have fail, the risk factor is way less than starting with an extra rook in the forwards or backs imo.

Someone will pop and surprise hopefully - last season Matt Roberts popped out a 91 when $245k, Howes ($200k) at Melb dropped a handy 74, Seth Campbell ($200k) gave us a 61.

Cadman ($221k) and McMullin ($200k) gave a paltry 47 each, Windsor ($282k) a 45, etc etc (a few others)

This year will L.Ashcroft start, and a early look at Lombard and Kako might be nice. Other than that, we have to wait and hope for some more unexpected players to offer us some cash cow moments out of the Opening Round. Slim pickings so far - patience required.

 

[Shaunn]

I think theres actually a bunch of options in the forward line, just not necessarily the usual 300k or under rookies.
Finding a guy priced at 40 who can go 60 is better than a rookie priced at 30 who is a sub risk or will have a shit fantasy role with 50 or lower as their likely average, like most forward rookies.

Ive got a bit of a watchlist of guys sub 500k who imo have as much upside as the 5/6/7th best mid rookies, IF they play the role I think they will. Ill probably slot one of them into my f5/6 spot once I know more about their roles.

If i was to choose anyone at a lower price it would be Sanders, but hes not as cheap and a risk also, but if hes playing first game in the mids im all in.
But that F1 spot could be anything this year, so many options to go with JHF, Kennedy, Rankine or go cheaper to someone like Sanders or a expensive rook.

 

[stallon]

If i was to choose anyone at a lower price it would be Sanders, but hes not as cheap and a risk also, but if hes playing first game in the mids im all in.
But that F1 spot could be anything this year, so many options to go with JHF, Kennedy, Rankine or go cheaper to someone like Sanders or a expensive rook.

None of those potential F1 guys like the ones you mentioned are close to what the midfield mid-pricers are for value.
Swapping a mid rookie with 20-25 points upside for a fwd cheaper guy with 15-20 points upside to allow swapping that F1 for a Cerra(for example) still is an upgrade on your team as a whole imo.

Agree its hard to lock it in right now, but between all the possible potentially value guys in that 300-500k bracket I expect at least a couple to be good picks. Im happy putting one of them in as a place holder for now, ive got enough confidence in that group of players.

Honestly I could see a world where I put a cheap fwd into my midfield by the time the season starts and going no rookies on field in my defence if Allan or El-Hawli arent named.

 

[Shaunn]

None of those potential F1 guys like the ones you mentioned are close to what the midfield mid-pricers are for value.
Swapping a mid rookie with 20-25 points upside for a fwd cheaper guy with 15-20 points upside to allow swapping that F1 for a Cerra(for example) still is an upgrade on your team as a whole imo.

Agree its hard to lock it in right now, but between all the possible potentially value guys in that 300-500k bracket I expect at least a couple to be good picks. Im happy putting one of them in as a place holder for now, ive got enough confidence in that group of players.

Honestly I could see a world where I put a cheap fwd into my midfield by the time the season starts and going no rookies on field in my defence if Allan or El-Hawli arent named.

I mean lets put it this way, say you go Cerra over a rook, If he goes say 92 over a mid rook whos going 70ish?

What are you expecting Erasmus or Maric to go? If they're going 70 aswell and JHF goes 92 then its exactly the same.

 

[tigs2010]

Any Ziepig's blossoming in our forward lines this PS?

 

[stallon]

I mean lets put it this way, say you go Cerra over a rook, If he goes say 92 over a mid rook whos going 70ish?

What are you expecting Erasmus or Maric to go? If they're going 70 aswell and JHF goes 92 then its exactly the same.

Well itd be the 5/6/7th best mid rookie, and I think 70 is a VERY high bar for that rookie, im thinking 50-55. Those mid rookies almost all inside mids who are going to be the 5th/6th mid in their team, likely to play a big % of the time forward. Theyre not Daicos/Sheezel/W.Ashcroft/H.Reid types. Id only have Smillie, Lindsay or FOS as any half chance of breaking 70 at this stage, even then I think its not likely based off early roles/rumours.

If Maric goes 60 and Cerra goes 92, vs Draper going 50 with Rankine going 90.
Thats roughly 40 points upside vs 30.

Youd be putting Cerra for Rankine and Maric on for FOS/Lindsay as your on-field scorer, I think it basically breaks even for points on field, but with more money to be made.

 

[Shaunn]

Well itd be the 5/6/7th best mid rookie, and I think 70 is a VERY high bar for that rookie, im thinking 50-55. Those mid rookies almost all inside mids who are going to be the 5th/6th mid in their team, likely to play a big % of the time forward. Theyre not Daicos/Sheezel/W.Ashcroft/H.Reid types. Id only have Smillie, Lindsay or FOS as any half chance of breaking 70 at this stage, even then I think its not likely based off early roles/rumours.

If Maric goes 60 and Cerra goes 92, vs Draper going 50 with Rankine going 90.
Thats roughly 40 points upside vs 30.

Youd be putting Cerra for Rankine and Maric on for FOS/Lindsay as your on-field scorer, I think it basically breaks even for points on field, but with more money to be made.

But you're still replacing the 1st-3rd best mid rookie onfield for Cerra interms of points.

 

[stallon]

But you're still replacing the 1st-3rd best mid rookie onfield for Cerra interms of points.

Youd be putting Cerra for Rankine and Maric on for FOS/Lindsay as your on-field scorer, I think it basically breaks even for points on field, but with more money to be made.

You dont have to agree that any of those cheaper forwards are going to score 60+, but thats the logic anyway. One will no doubt pop up and be popular by the time the season starts

 

[Shaunn]

You dont have to agree that any of those cheaper forwards are going to score 60+, but thats the logic anyway. One will no doubt pop up and be popular by the time the season starts

Yep get you, i don't really want JHF anyway , just trying to get all the options to get the best possible outcomes . Which like always we'll have to wait for some praccy games to get more of an idea.

 

[Corkintheocean]

Update on Farrell. More info in comments

I'm not sure why Hinkley isn't plonking Jase Burgoyne at half back as the main distributor rather than the pu pu platter of Farrell/Burton/Evans. He lit Hawthorn up in the SF and they genuinely had some drive and flair going forward.

 

[JDWCE]

I'm not sure why Hinkley isn't plonking Jase Burgoyne at half back as the main distributor rather than the pu pu platter of Farrell/Burton/Evans. He lit Hawthorn up in the SF and they genuinely had some drive and flair going forward.

He was best on during that game. Insane. To be fair to Port they lack class on the outside in the midfield so I kind of get why Burgoyne is earmarked for a wing role. Wouldn’t surprise me if someone like Bergman floats back and takes the HBF role with both hands. Great interceptor

 

[Corkintheocean]

He was best on during that game. Insane. To be fair to Port they lack class on the outside in the midfield so I kind of get why Burgoyne is earmarked for a wing role. Wouldn’t surprise me if someone like Bergman floats back and takes the HBF role with both hands. Great interceptor

Bergman is class too, I would have them either side of each other.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

I'm not sure why Hinkley isn't plonking Jase Burgoyne at half back as the main distributor rather than the pu pu platter of Farrell/Burton/Evans. He lit Hawthorn up in the SF and they genuinely had some drive and flair going forward.

Burgoyne by foot isn’t the best so isn’t suited to half back and hence the hesitancy to play him there I think.

He’s great at reading the play and body positioning given his size but once he gets the ball, his kicking is very loopy and why I don’t think he’s going to play half back. Better suited to wing.

Farrell, Evans and Sinn (maybe) will be our half backs.

 

[Mezzoculo]

Can we keep this on the downlow. Would love more people to stay locked into the Day trap. This could scare people off.

Gonna be tricky to keep Round 0 quiet....

 

[Coasters7]

McVee anyone? What’s the latest on him? Very aware that I seem to be piling up with Demons players though which I don’t love.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Well itd be the 5/6/7th best mid rookie, and I think 70 is a VERY high bar for that rookie, im thinking 50-55. Those mid rookies almost all inside mids who are going to be the 5th/6th mid in their team, likely to play a big % of the time forward. Theyre not Daicos/Sheezel/W.Ashcroft/H.Reid types. Id only have Smillie, Lindsay or FOS as any half chance of breaking 70 at this stage, even then I think its not likely based off early roles/rumours.

If Maric goes 60 and Cerra goes 92, vs Draper going 50 with Rankine going 90.
Thats roughly 40 points upside vs 30.

Youd be putting Cerra for Rankine and Maric on for FOS/Lindsay as your on-field scorer, I think it basically breaks even for points on field, but with more money to be made.

I think you're drastically underselling Jagga Smiths ball winning ability.