Traded #25: Jake Stringer - 📦 Traded to GWS for Pick #53 - 16/10

[Lore]

Contract Status: Out of contract 2024
My Boy Draft 2024: Pick 19, Harlequin

 

[bacon buster]

Coach has said it is not all about Jake getting the cream every week. The set up this week was more about Langford. Stringer is never going to be effective as a marking forward so sometimes he will just have to play a role and if he gets a few breaks then he gets his turn.

That’s not the role he’s been paid handsomely to do.

 

[ant555]

 

[yodellinhank]

Thought he looked a little out of shape to be perfectly honest.

 

[Megabattimus]

Nobody would be complaining about his game if we won. Ditto for Philips and Heppell.

The second we lose, out come the knives for the experienced crew in the team. It's really pathetic tbh.

And if me, the person who hates him personally due to the off-field stuff he did at the Bulldogs and said in another thread that we needed to move past him after the Saints game, you know the level of criticism he's copping after today is unwarranted.

 

[bacon buster]

Nobody would be complaining about his game if we won. Ditto for Philips and Heppell.

The second we lose, out come the knives for the experienced crew in the team. It's really pathetic tbh.

And if me, the person who hates him personally due to the off-field stuff he did at the Bulldogs and said in another thread that we needed to move past him after the Saints game, you know the level of criticism he's copping after today is unwarranted.

There’s barely been any criticism tbh. Which criticism in particular were you unhappy with?

However, when you’re one of the more experienced and well paid players in the team, it’s not unreasonable to expect some criticism for a below par performance.

 

[ant555]

Lots being said.

 

[bacon buster]

Lots being said.

Yep. And plenty of nothing being said too

 

[Megabattimus]

There’s barely been any criticism tbh. Which criticism in particular were you unhappy with?

However, when you’re one of the more experienced and well paid players in the team, it’s not unreasonable to expect some criticism for a below par performance.

It wasn't below par, he did what the coach asked. Problem was, he didn't get any CBAs in the last quarter. Which didn't allow him to get involved when they locked it in our back half. If he was up around the ball more in the last, he would've been able to continue the work he was doing the previous three quarters. Aka the tackling and gruntwork that was helping us get on top in the third.

To be perfectly honest, I prefer a game like this or the Melbourne game from him than the flukey 4.6 game against GWS. It's more replicable for him and shows good signs for us as a team if we're able to win without him going off. Obviously we didn't win today, but that doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater over it.

 

[bacon buster]

Why do you think he’s not around the ball more?

 

[Megabattimus]

Why do you think he’s not around the ball more?

Probably because Hobbs got subbed on and he wanted to give him an extended taste of what life in the AFL midfield is like. We were shuffling the magnets a lot in that last quarter to cover for Laverde going down. Also it could be as simple as wanting Stringer to be in good position up forward in case we're able to get through their zone when exiting our back half.

If Scott had his time again, he probably would've handled it differently. But like to lay it all at Stringer's feet is a ridiculous overreaction that reeks of tall poppy syndrome.

 

[bacon buster]

Probably because Hobbs got subbed on and he wanted to give him an extended taste of what life in the AFL midfield is like. We were shuffling the magnets a lot in that last quarter to cover for Laverde going down. Also it could be as simple as wanting Stringer to be in good position up forward in case we're able to get through their zone when exiting our back half.

If Scott had his time again, he probably would've handled it differently. But like to lay it all at Stringer's feet is a ridiculous overreaction that reeks of tall poppy syndrome.

Fair enough. I can only remember maybe 1-2 CBAs for Stringer before Hobbs got subbed on anyway

I’m not laying all the blame at his feet either, anyone who did that wasn’t watching the game

 

[Megabattimus]

Fair enough. I can only remember maybe 1-2 CBAs for Stringer before Hobbs got subbed on anyway

I’m not laying all the blame at his feet either, anyone who did that wasn’t watching the game

I apologise then.

 

[Dudoro]

At the end of the day if the average AFL player had his level of fitness they’d be playing local football. He has more talent than 95% of the afl. Seen what he could do second half of 2021 when he was fit.

People who say “he’s trying” well if he was he’d be fit. Just like anyone who’s probably on 700k you’d expect to be playing to a high level and at the very least have their body in shape.

Got his pay check after 2021 and likely we’ve seen the best of him.

 

[DERO]

Thought he looked a little out of shape to be perfectly honest.

You weren’t wrong.

 

[DapperDon]

Nobody would be complaining about his game if we won. Ditto for Philips and Heppell.

The second we lose, out come the knives for the experienced crew in the team. It's really pathetic tbh.

And if me, the person who hates him personally due to the off-field stuff he did at the Bulldogs and said in another thread that we needed to move past him after the Saints game, you know the level of criticism he's copping after today is unwarranted.

Yes correct, when players play poorly and we lose there is generally criticism

 

[boncer34]

Lots being said.

There's a certain irony in you having a crack at him for continuing to post after he said that.

After all you grandstanded about leaving the site yet here you are. Glass houses Ant.

 

[fairbump_playon]

Those who want to agree to disagree will not admit they where wrong about certain aspects of his pre season this year. They where all in on him being unprofessional again when it was not the case. Some of us who have an unbiased view acknowledge that he has had periods in his career where he has not helped himself with the level of commitment but also know injury and other circumstances have also played a part in the last couple of seasons.
As I said. Crickets. You where wrong about his pre season this year! Not that I expect much more . Must be a sad existence to just feel the need to post in the Jake thread. And yes this is a cheap shot



If you where at the game today you would have seen how hard he was actually working both ways but it did not go his way. Did not stop him from working pretty hard defensively despite him having a quiet day on the offence side of things. Langford won the day as he ended up with the main role. Jake just had to play second string.

Ant he had lingering concussion and couldn’t train

Any chance of managing his diet because he can’t run?

All that “body type” stuff still comes down to calories in and out.

It’s possible that he both had lingering concussion effects and was not as professional as he should be

 

[faible]

We don't do him any favours with our delivery to him inside 50. He's a guy who does his best work at ground level or on a short lead in to space, kicking it on his head is about the worst way to deliver it to him given he's usually defended by a tall. Yet we keep doing exactly that.

Thought he did some nice work out of the middle nonetheless.

 

[Milanista28]

Thought he showed some signs of getting back to his best. He definitely looked super strong when being tackled, if he remains injury free he'll start putting up good numbers.

 

[ant555]

Ant he had lingering concussion and couldn’t train

Any chance of managing his diet because he can’t run?

All that “body type” stuff still comes down to calories in and out.

It’s possible that he both had lingering concussion effects and was not as professional as he should be

I have discussed this 100 times. Not everyone can stay in shape just through diet . I know. I live it . I am done explaining it to people who do not live it and have little understanding.
He has not always done the right thing. He has had several seasons where he has not been professional.
Not all athletes can keep themselves in ripped condition if they can not fully train.
People are making out that he was 10kg over weight .
It was 5kg. It is not unusual for your weight to fluctuate 3 or 4 kg if you have a slow metabolic rate and not be able to train at your maximum.
It is not as simple as calories in and out.
There are more factors involved and to state the obvious not everyone is the same and we are not a bunch of cyborgs.
Too many judges with limited facts.

 

[Lore]

Don't think it's a big deal at this point.

It's round 6, he's played 4 AFL games and one in the VFL.
It's not keeping him out of the side.

He's equal third for goals kicked at Essendon this season even having played only 4/6 games so far, and his work rate is apparently acceptable (according to those at the ground, you really can't see what he's doing 99% of the time based on the TV).
It's not affecting his performance.

He's not going to get off the chain every week, sometimes he's the decoy.

Just because he doesn't look like a pin up model doesn't mean he can't football. Even as he is I'd much rather have Stringer in the side than not.

 

[P Money]

This might not stand up to statistical scrutiny but I felt Jake was thrown into the middle in the 3rd quarter and changed the game. Was really bemused that he was unsighted in the middle for the entire 4th quarter when we got absolutely smashed at every centre bounce / stoppage and couldn't get our hands on the ball. In my view he's our best clearance player per CBA, but we all know doesn't have the fitness/durability to be a full time mid. Still think Scott really missed a trick by not putting him in the middle in the 4th

 

[yodellinhank]

This might not stand up to statistical scrutiny but I felt Jake was thrown into the middle in the 3rd quarter and changed the game. Was really bemused that he was unsighted in the middle for the entire 4th quarter when we got absolutely smashed at every centre bounce / stoppage and couldn't get our hands on the ball. In my view he's our best clearance player per CBA, but we all know doesn't have the fitness/durability to be a full time mid. Still think Scott really missed a trick by not putting him in the middle in the 4th

Were you at the ground? He went in, but was spent so you probably didn't see him. Might need to do something about his fitness.

 

[wichidi]

Were you at the ground? He went in, but was spent so you probably didn't see him. Might need to do something about his fitness.

The entire team was spent in the 4th. I watched Perkins towards the end of the third for example barely able to chase.
I wasn’t at the game but saw a comment from ant that he was and watched Jake work his backside off as long as he could. So yes his fitness may need to increase but think it’s a team thing/recruiting thing and probably unfair to single him out.
He may also have physical limitations meaning he can’t get much fitter - who knows?

 

[faible]

He may also have physical limitations meaning he can’t get much fitter - who knows?

Every time we try to make him run more in preseason he breaks down.

People need to focus on what he is, not what he isn't.

His best is exceptional, but as Scott said; if he did it every week he'd be the best player in the game.

He's a powerful forward who can do damaging small bursts at centre bounces. Having him do long chases on Daicos down the wing really isn't a good thing for us as it means he's gassed when he gets the opportunity to do the things he can do.

He's not going to be the superstar midfielder we hoped he might be, but he can still be a game-breaking medium forward that can take the odd centre bounce. He's one of the very few players we have that can genuinely turn a game in 5 minutes.

He could probably be more professional in regards to his diet and conditioning to give himself the best chance of not getting injured, but we all know by now he's not going to become a guy who's able to run midfield volume because he'll break down if he tries.