Player Watch #27: Miller Bergman - BFNAAK - out for the season after rupturing his ACL against the Bombers.

[King Corey]

Talented but 4th year in the system and he's projecting as a skinny Scott McMahon without the ability to go forward or accumulate.

But he does have nice skills and vision in and of themselves a la McMahon.

 

[Devington]

If he can't step up now then he will be the Will Phillips of next year's list. Enough talent to want to retain, but too much time on a list without resolving deficiencies or question marks.

 

[chubbspeterson]

An we do a swap with his brother at Port?

He's a poor kick. Not sure why DuckYeah liked the idea.

 

[perplexed]

Yeah, I think he's done. He hasn't been able to bulk up at all and doesn't have the innate knack of accumulation. Then there are the other flankers coming on. Leaves him in no man's land.

Hugely disappointing 180 from my hopes he'd break out as a full-time member of the back six. If he picks it up somehow, I'll be delighted. Love the way he kicks it

Yep. Is he concentrating too much on defense or does he just not know how to find the ball? Not much point having good disposal if you can't get a kick.

 

[northbergs]

Agree there have been the odd favourable signs there, but as it stands this is the list of OOC players this year, and at this juncture there's only about [emoji640] I'd draw a line through before I get to his name.

I know this is the Miller Bergman thread, but Luke Parker shouldn’t be on that list.


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[DocSholl]

Mate we can't afford to keep blokes on the list for another two years if they're not showing much.

So far all he has shown is a couple of decent kicks and an inability to physically compete.

It's the Flynn Perez effect. A bloke does 2-3 good things in his first couple of games and we cling onto them forever.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Yeah, I think he's done. He hasn't been able to bulk up at all and doesn't have the innate knack of accumulation. Then there are the other flankers coming on. Leaves him in no man's land.

Hugely disappointing 180 from my hopes he'd break out as a full-time member of the back six. If he picks it up somehow, I'll be delighted. Love the way he kicks it

Looked like he had bigger shoulders watching him live, but whether it's enough muscle we'll see.
Definitely uses the ball well but but not as athletic as Hardemann, so it'll be an interesting HBF selection battle.

 

[Horizons_00]

Talented but 4th year in the system and he's projecting as a skinny Scott McMahon without the ability to go forward or accumulate.

But he does have nice skills and vision in and of themselves a la McMahon.

Way too injury prone too. Too much of a twig to play at the AFL level IMO

 

[King Corey]

Mate we can't afford to keep blokes on the list for another two years if they're not showing much.

So far all he has shown is a couple of decent kicks and an inability to physically compete.

He has been on an AFL list for 3 years. That's a long time to transform your body.

I rate some of his attributes but he needs a blinder of a year to climb the pecking order in his position, IMO. Not completely unachievable but he's up against it.

Another comparison - Trent Rivers.

Skillful skinny backmen taken in a similar draft range in their respective draft years.

Rivers bulked up and brought it to AFL. Bergman for whatever reason hasn't been able to fortify his body to a suitable level as yet.

 

[chubbspeterson]

It's the Flynn Perez effect. A bloke does 2-3 good things in his first couple of games and we cling onto them forever.

So just assume all our young players are no good? That's the spirit.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Another comparison - Trent Rivers.

Skillful skinny backmen taken in a similar draft range in their respective draft years.

Rivers bulked up and brought it to AFL. Bergman for whatever reason hasn't been able to fortify his body to a suitable level as yet.

Close but Rivers is more athletic from what I've seen. I think we picked Mahony didn't we back then lol?

 

[LB2Snake]

Close but Rivers is more athletic from what I've seen. I think we picked Mahony didn't we back then lol?

Think Rivers was part of what they turned our pick 8 into wasn't he.....Pickett and Rivers I thought.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Think Rivers was part of what they turned our pick 8 into wasn't he.....Pickett and Rivers I thought.

Yep you are right. Pick 8 was 10 (12) (Pickett) and 28 (32) (Rivers) and F4 or something.
Sorry I was wrong we took Comben pick 31 before Rivers was pick 32, that's fine with me.
Mahony 34 and Perez 35.

 

[LB2Snake]

Yep you are right. Pick 8 was 10 (12) (Pickett) and 28 (32) (Rivers) and F4 or something.
Sorry I was wrong we took Comben pick 31 before Rivers was pick 32, that's fine with me.
Mahony 34 and Perez 35.

Rivers is a pretty good player. What about Chad Warner at 39? Not bad

 

[chubbspeterson]

Rivers is a pretty good player. What about Chad Warner at 39? Not bad

That's probably who I was actually thinking of us missing on.

 

[amaz199]

Love how we are comparing opposition players to ours.

Guarantee you if they were brought into our system they wouldn't be flourishing. We've had issues with development and getting players to get their body ready for the AFL.

That has been the case until recently where that segment of the footy department was overhauled and now our players are starting to look more developed. The rot starts at the top not the player.

 

[DesertRoo]

Another comparison - Trent Rivers.

Skillful skinny backmen taken in a similar draft range in their respective draft years.

Rivers bulked up and brought it to AFL. Bergman for whatever reason hasn't been able to fortify his body to a suitable level as yet.

Trent Rivers?
There's a much more obvious body comparison.
It aint all about size, he needs to work a hell a lot on running and kicking.

 

[Heaps of fun]

He's done? Had to check the calendar, must be August, turns out it's January. Some miserable ****ing campaigners on here.

I don't rate his prospects for that highly but he has an entire season of footy to prove himself, same as many speculative players on our list.

 

[DuckYeah]

Rubbish. Turned the pill over to larky in the D 50 under zero pressure. Delist him now.

Another year where we’ll have 7+ delistings

 

[King Corey]

Quo vadis?

4th season, no real sense of momentum or improvement so far in his career.

Good skills, class but bit of the invisible man the last 12 months, injuries notwithstanding.

 

[perplexed]

Quo vadis?

4th season, no real sense of momentum or improvement so far in his career.

Good skills, class but bit of the invisible man the last 12 months, injuries notwithstanding.

Probably nowhere.

He is a weird one. He seems to have the tools to make it as a half-back distributor but isn't able to find the footy anywhere near enough. Maybe it will suddenly click for him, but time is running out.

 

[RightWingRoo]

Up near the top of the in danger list, along with CCJ, Cooper and Payne.
Was an emergency on the weekend, so may not be that far away. But Daniel and FOS are clearly ahead of him.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Quo vadis?

4th season, no real sense of momentum or improvement so far in his career.

Good skills, class but bit of the invisible man the last 12 months, injuries notwithstanding.

He is neither here nor there.

Has decent speed without being line breaking quick.

Has decent skills without being truly elite.

Has the ability to be decent defensively but not good enough to be purely a lockdown type.

Has courage, but ultimately isn’t physical enough because of his physique.

I think the defining factor though, is his inability to find the ball regularly. Averaging high teens disposals in the VFL 4 years into your career just isn’t going to cut the mustard.

 

[Flawed Genius]

We're moving on. Thanks Miller

 

[Chadwiko]

Yeah was absolutely poo today in the VFL.