Player Watch #34: Jack Graham - MOVED TO WCE - PICK 42 Received

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Meteoric Rise said:
Are they not the players who would need to replace JGTI if he is dropped?

JGTI's figures are more or less the same as Dion's. Make of that what you will. ;)
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I'm setting you up like a good educator trying to teach a student solving a polynomial of the fifteenth degree .

First Question was JH and JGTI w/l record playing together .
Second JH w/l record playing without JGTI.
Third is JGTI w/l record playing without JH. Easy polynomial solution based on q2:p

Solving these three questions will then explain to you why all your statistics are anecdotal.;):moustache:

no distorting stats please.:)
 
TigerImposter said:
I'm setting you up like a good educator trying to teach a student solving a polynomial of the fifteenth degree .

First Question was JH and JGTI w/l record playing together .
Second JH w/l record playing without JGTI.
Third is JGTI w/l record playing without JH. Easy polynomial solution based on q2:p

Solving these three questions will then explain to you why all your statistics are anecdotal.;):moustache:

no distorting stats please.:)
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Poly what?

You may wish to furnish us with those figures TI. And then any inferences you draw from them. :)
 
Meteoric Rise said:
Poly what?

You may wish to furnish us with those figures TI. And then any inferences you draw from them. :)
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I've got you in a corner now with this player W/l stat you've recently come up with to try and make a good story. I let you get away with it in the Cumberland thread bc you actually compared it to a player in the same role. :) Now I want you to do it with JGTI and JH who are not new boys on the block, but highly paid seasoned footballers in similar roles as one has kicked the other guy out. Then my 15th degree polynomial will be solved with only one solution.o_O:cool:

Your polynomial suggests (JGTI-JH)^15≥0 Has a solution of JG IS greater than or equal to JH. Which tells me then from basic laws of abstract algebra that your original statement was wrong by the anecdotal evidence given by you.
 
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Think next year will be make or break for JG.

No Cotchin. Meatball will be out injured inevitablly.

Pure mid or tagger (which we really should look into) imo. otherwise out the door. Hoping a new coach can reinvent him. You'd think he be a see ball get ball type mid a b grade taranto.
 
TigerImposter said:
I've got you in a corner now with this player W/l stat you've recently come up with to try and make a good story. I let you get away with it in the Cumberland thread bc you actually compared it to a player in the same role. :) Now I want you to do it with JGTI and JH who are not new boys on the block, but highly paid seasoned footballers in similar roles as one has kicked the other guy out. Then my 15th degree polynomial will be solved with only one solution.o_O:cool:

Your polynomial suggests (JGTI-JH)^15≥0 Has a solution of JG IS greater than or equal to JH. Which tells me then from basic laws of abstract algebra that your original statement was wrong by the anecdotal evidence given by you.
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Such a privilege to be allowed to get away with presenting revealing facts. :tearsofjoy:

So in TI world, inside mid Jacob Hopper plays the same role as high half forward JGTI was previously playing? If so, then o_O.

Maybe let's compare JGTI in his first 2 seasons with your "kids" ....

2017-18 with JGTI 20w 3l 87% 13% loss rate.

2017-18 without JGTI 17w 9l 34% loss rate.

Ergo, the loss rate increased by 260% WITHOUT JGTI when he was a "kid." How does that compare with the kids you are championing to replace him now? :cool:

Polygnome that. :)
 
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Meteoric Rise said:
Such a privilege to be allowed to get away with presenting revealing facts. :tearsofjoy:

So in TI world, inside mid Jacob Hopper plays the same role as high half forward JGTI was previously playing? If so, then o_O.

Maybe let's compare JGTI in his first 2 seasons with your "kids" ....

2017-18 with JGTI 20w 3l 87% 13% loss rate.

2017-18 without JGTI 17w 9l 34% loss rate.

Ergo, the loss rate increased by 260% WITHOUT JGTI when he was a "kid." How does that compare with the kids you are championing to replace him now? :cool:

Polygnome that. :)
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No that’s not what we’re looking at.
Both players are very similar as mid HF bc JGTI doesn’t tag. They also play Wing during rotations.
Now only evidence supporting this year please. I know it’s a low sample size as you made reference to this in your earlier posts. 😂
Now don’t shy from the topic as all your data suggests that JGTI is a better footballer than JH.
Since you compared JGTI to nearly a list of kids with nearly every position on the ground I at least got two closely similar players. 😃😎😇
 
TigerImposter said:
No that’s not what we’re looking at.
Both players are very similar as mid HF bc JGTI doesn’t tag. They also play Wing during rotations.
Now only evidence supporting this year please. I know it’s a low sample size as you made reference to this in your earlier posts. 😂
Now don’t shy from the topic as all your data suggests that JGTI is a better footballer than JH.
Since you compared JGTI to nearly a list of kids with nearly every position on the ground I at least got two closely similar players. 😃😎😇
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Earth is a pretty ****ed up place these days TI, you wouldn't miss being here. :tearsofjoy:

How exactly does JGTI having a better with and without ratio than Hopper(and every other player who would or could replace JGTI in his role) prove that JGTI should be dropped?

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Meteoric Rise said:
Earth is a pretty ****ed up place these days TI, you wouldn't miss being here. :tearsofjoy:

How exactly does JGTI having a better with and without ratio than Hopper(and every other player who would or could replace JGTI in his role) prove that JGTI should be dropped?

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That was your original argument MR. LOL
It's nonsensical based on opponents, ground and weather conditions, role played , our team ins and outs. direct opponents etc etc . To make JGTI the hero bc he's involved in more wins than the players in the list you put up and JH:coldsweat: is just a concept to prove your agenda to protect a slow plodding footballer.
He's cooked and the evidence only needed is to watch his games where he plays chasey pretty well all night unless there's a turnover.
 
TigerImposter said:
That was your original argument MR. LOL
It's nonsensical based on opponents, ground and weather conditions, role played , our team ins and outs. direct opponents etc etc . To make JGTI the hero bc he's involved in more wins than the players in the list you put up and JH:coldsweat: is just a concept to prove your agenda to protect a slow plodding footballer.
He's cooked and the evidence only needed is to watch his games where he plays chasey pretty well all night unless there's a turnover.
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Funny how the team magically performs better with JGTI in than out then TI.

JGTI comes out well from my revealing facts that are currently breaking the internet. Not as well as Lynch and the with/without king - Nathan Broad, but just about as well as anyone else. :)
 
Meteoric Rise said:
Funny how the team magically performs better with JGTI in than out then TI.

JGTI comes out well from my revealing facts that are currently breaking the internet. Not as well as Lynch and the with/without king - Nathan Broad, but just about as well as anyone else. :)
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Nope MR as it's all anecdotal. Don't live in a dream as you will never get out of it. This is the real world and it will be funny if JGTI gets dropped. I know I'll have a little dig at you.:moustache:;)
 
My eyes watching the ease opposition run away from JGTI, and even tho he runs tirelessly, the amount of times he looks spent thus making him practically offensively impotent and now unlikely to make 2nd, third and forth defensive efforts again like he used to

It just means with his slowness, size and shape, the new stand, tackling and 666 rule/s and a worn out body the game has past him by...... common sense says we are carrying him much more, than Jack is carrying/helping us.

Don't think he'd be on any other teams radar or getting a gig anywhere else to be honest. North maybe but they got Liam Sheils still in 2024.
 
TigerImposter said:
Nope MR as it's all anecdotal. Don't live in a dream as you will never get out of it. This is the real world and it will be funny if JGTI gets dropped. I know I'll have a little dig at you.:moustache:;)
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I am merely trying to explain what has happened TI. I will leave you to guess the future, but if you are wrong....then what the hell, I might deign to have a little dig at you. :)
 

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Meteoric Rise said:
I am merely trying to explain what has happened TI. I will leave you to guess the future, but if you are wrong....then what the hell, I might deign to have a little dig at you. :)
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Don't worry i'll get you back after the game with my army of Tigers in this thread.:grinning::innocent:
 
Jack Graham is no good and needs to be traded

Also

Jack Graham should get us a top 40 pick if traded

Never change
 
Meteoric Rise said:
Not true at all, I only included 2022 to be consistent with other comparisons I have done.

In 2023 with Graham: 5w 1d 5l 50% win rate.

In 2023 without Graham: 1w 3l 25% win rate.

So the effect is the same this season as it is for this season and last season combined TI. Our win rate doubles with JGTI in the team compared to games where he is not in the team.

But it is very generous of our jets to carry JGTI to twice the amount of wins that they carry his replacement to when he does not play! ;)
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1) Are RFC across JGTI win loss stats? Why hasn't he been resigned?
2) or snapped up by another club?
 
SumTingWong said:
If the new coach wants a tagger then he is indispensable
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He tagged Sloane 6 years ago was a one off. I'm convinced he has irritable bowel syndrome as when he runs he looks like he's groaning and straining like it's bubbling away ready to burst. His face looks like he's putting in all manner of effort but every single opponent leaves him in their wake.

He's incapable of running anyone down. Realistically 90% of his tackles are against stationary blokes. And opponents who actually got in and got the pill ahead of him. Usually they clear the ball anyway. Occasionally he'll tackle someone like a Clayton Oliver (usually they're exhausted cos they've had the thing 40 times as opposed to Graham sitting on his 10th touch relatively fresh as a Daisy).

He'd be lucky to be in the top 12 players maybe once a month. Realistically he's in his prime but his peak is more the you yangs summit leasurely stroll as opposed to a Dusty Mt Everest.

I'd gladly offload him for pick 50 just to dump his salary and free up a spot. Would've much rathered Sonsie, Dow and Banks get another 7 games development each than watch Graham plod all year. He Dean Polo'd 2017 GF and done next to nothing since.
 

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