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He has played his best when he has played in the guts
Player Watch #34: Jack Graham - MOVED TO WCE - PICK 42 Received
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I like Jack. Another who sacrificed his game for the team. I’m very interested to see what Yze does with him
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A Camira could go 80kmh but that doesn't mean it was a reliable car.
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My calculations free falling from 45m suggests I can at 108km/h. So I guess you’re right in a way.You are deluded old timer. You couldn't run 40kph down a well.
Yep Richmond’s dynasties sides were full of unreliable hacks.
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Just because Graham is struggling over the last few years has nothing to do with the talent of other players 2017-2020.
We've had 29 list changes since the start of 2017.
Maybe you should focus on what the team and players are like now and not half a decade ago
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I'm actually quite content with Fridge. Pick #53, played 117 games so far, 2 premierships and put his body on the line in the '19 prelim to help us get to the big dance.
He has been thrown around from on ball, tagger, High half forward. Happy to have a role player like this, and I'll predict he will play every game next year under Uzi.
Just chill out on the fridge campaigners.
He has been thrown around from on ball, tagger, High half forward. Happy to have a role player like this, and I'll predict he will play every game next year under Uzi.
Just chill out on the fridge campaigners.
Again you are still showing your ignorance on the topic as Charlie was clocked 33.3km/h over a distance and that's how he was clocked that speed . If you study their motion-time graphs you will be able to see greater speeds than 33.3km/h on numerous players graphs.
So you don't know the details yet you're trying to make a case. Again the Bolt case is irrelevant here as it provides no information on how JGTI velocity was measured.
IF I fell off a grandstand assuming vertically bc that would give me my maximum speed as all my potential energy would be converted to Kinetic energy then my maximum speed as i touched the haloed turf would be V=square root of (2gh). The height of the MCG is 45m and gravity is around 10m/s2. So velocity is comes to 30m/s = 108km/h, but i'd have my arse planted in the ground and wouldn't be of much use as I'd have no horizontal motion.
So we then do the calculation as a projectile motion off the grandstand which gives a maximum velocity when projected so you hit ground at 45degrees, but unfortunately for JGTI this requires the projectile to be moving.
What case am I making other than 34km/h is up with the big boys for that AFL tracking stat.
The guys on this list aren’t slow… no Todd Goldstein. Your 40km/h has got them all covered of course.
Gary Rohan (Round 1) - 37.8km/h
Charlie Comben (Round 7) - 37.8km/h
Izak Rankine (Round 7) - 36.0km/h
Gary Rohan (Round 12) - 35.4km/h
Charlie Cameron (Round 14) - 35.2km/h
Nick Blakey (Round 14) - 35.2km/h
Bradley Hill (Round 6) - 35.1km/h
Esava Ratugolea (Round 10) - 35.0km/h
Jed Bews (Round 1) - 35.0km/h
Jaidyn Stephenson (Round 12) - 35.0km/h
Harry Cunningham (Round 10) - 34.7km/h
Brodie Smith (Round 16)- 34.7km/h
John Noble (Round 12) - 34.6km/h
Jed Bews (Round 2) - 34.5km/h
Brandon Walker (Round 4) - 34.5km/h
Griffin Logue (Round 10) - 34.5km/h
Jesse Motlop (Round 9) - 34.4km/h
Oisin Mullin (Round 12) - 34.3km/h
Gary Rohan (Round 6) - 34.2km/h
Nick Hind (Round 8) - 34.2km/h
Bobby Hill (Round 11)- 34.2km/h
Oskar Baker (Round 13) - 34.2km/h
Hewago Oea (Round 15) - 34.2km/h
Isaac Heeney (Round 10) - 34.2km/h
I’m replying to this stupidity
“A Camira could go 80kmh but that doesn't mean it was a reliable “
So you are saying Jack Graham was not reliable.
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I'm saying he is not reliable over the past couple of years in particular.
Your reading too much into whatever you are trying to read into.
I would argue that his tackling numbers are above average but nearly every other part of his game is lacking or not damaging.
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Like a few players on our list has played a number of elite games, with the most notable being on the biggest stage. Then went on to play a lot of very non-elite games in 2023. Im hoping that Yze can help these players get to their best more often, and find them roles which will bring this out. Will make a huge difference to our side if he can
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You still have missed the whole point of the original post you quoted. You’re just putting up more useless information confusing yourself in the whole discussion.
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Another year of graham another year of excuses weve tried to reinvent the wheel with him , hes not up to it
If he’s got the footy then I’m not worried one bit. He’s sees what’s in front of him quite well. At the moment our B&F doesn’t see what is front of him very well. Keeping players like Jack Graham around might be a priory for awhile.
Is he too slow ? Seems to get rid of it OK.
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He's starting to enter Castagna territory of being a 'team player', without anyone being able to actually define what he does as an individual for the team or system.
Even his strength (tacking numbers) dropped off by almost 50% compared to his previous best years.
I hope Yze can turn him around. If it's more of the same or worse this thread is gunna get pretty ugly next year.
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Translation - maybe just in the best 22 in a team that finished 13th. But maybe not.
I’m confused ? In 2020 he got clocked running really fast. The size of football ovals means running really fast is often handy . That’s probably why they bother measuring it. Just like they bother measuring how far they run. Or how many repeat sprints.
You’re the one emc squaring and working out your terminal velocity.
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Some of you guys act like he was an early first rounder. Football teams have role players, jack has been value for money with what he has produced for a late draft pick.
Who knows.But I’m not going bag or belittle him every time he gets selected.
I will look at our key position before I look at our role players as to why we aren’t winning though.
Botton sides do like to “shuffle the deck chairs on the Titanic”
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What is his role? What are his strengths and weaknesses?
Yep, pick 53 in his draft year, played 117 games, played in 2 flags and starred in one of them, but he’s been no good. How many players selected at that point in the draft have performed as well as him? Not too many I’m tipping?
Like you, I don’t get the bagging of this guy. Tries his guts out every single game he plays, runs as hard as anyone too. He’s no superstar for sure, but he is a role player who’s proven to be easily worth what we invested in him.
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He's obviously doing something right if he keeps being selected. Played a critical part in our successful years and other coaches have noticed how much running he does and defensive actions that help his team mates. Can he improve? Yes of course but is the least of our worries.
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A bloke runs 34km/h in a game and 4 seasons ago and that stands over and beyond what he brings to the football field in 2024? Am i getting your logic right now? lol
So it's our 'role' players who win us games, but when we lose, 'role' players have no responsibility.
Amazing!
