3rd Test Border Gavaskar Trophy December 14-18 1050hrs @ The Gabba

[TigerCraig]

Take that up with the Australian board, not the people who handed out suspensions to the other players

yep CA were a disgrace

 

[grumbleguts]

From what I've read, Grace was so narcisstic that he would refuse to walk off after being given out, claiming that the crowd were there to see him bat.

Yes, "You see those people? They've come to see me bat, not you umpire, play on."

 

[Lunchtime]

Um... you said he doesn't perform overseas. I showed you a stat that shows he can and does. Maybe don't be stupid? Just a suggestion.

He doesn't perform consistently outside Australia - his average of 32 shows that.

 

[Gough]

He's looked like the old Smith since he got past the 50 hump.

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

 

[ep2018]

What's the plan from here? Do we make as high a score as we can and then hopefully we knock them over twice and hope the rain stays away the next 3 days?

 

[Magma]

its probably his first innings in a while where he has moved his feet early and definitively, after getting through the scratchy start. didnt look to be overthinking it either which imo is what has gotten him into the rut.

 

[Kennedy Parker]

Great back to form knock by Smith

 

[theiaofseed]

Take that up with the Australian board, not the people who handed out suspensions to the other players

Yes and that's exactly why every country tampered with the ball. People have their head up their ass if they think otherwise.

 

[PhatBoy]

It was in a WTC final

the 2 best teams of the 3 years prior


Someone said do it outside of Aus, he did it on the big stage

I’m well aware of the context and it was a great innings

Again, for a player to be considered in the very elite tier they are going to need to do it more than once.

Warner copped it his whole career; he went to SA when they were at the top of the tree and smoked them everywhere, and Bangladesh, lowly though they may be, managed to draw a series 1-1 against Australia over there; Warner still managed back to back hundreds there and won Australia a test with one of them in a fourth innings chase

 

[DaTBird187]

Not the best 100 by any means but one of my favourites! Not much better than an all time great with his back to the wall rising to the occasion!

The second 50 was exceptional.

 

[Speck]

Any way for us to win this game considering the showers due for the next few days? What score is enough to give us some decent bowling time and to try roll India.

Is it a go nuts to 400 and put them in for 20-30 mins tonight situation?

 

[TigerCraig]

From what I've read, Grace was so narcisstic that he would refuse to walk off after being given out, claiming that the crowd were there to see him bat.

And if he hit a catch would declare while the ball was in the air

 

[TY24]

Not your best response. His highest score in India is 90. He has only scored one Test century outside Australia. If you can't comprehend that then that is a reflection on you and your lack of knowledge about cricket plus a poor feel for the game.

Where did I say test centuries?

Travis Head is a big game player, and has proven himself both at home and overseas in all formats.

If you can't comprehend that then that is a reflection on you and your lack of knowledge about cricket plus a poor feel for the game.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

With Head, he has gone a little way in improving his outside of Aus numbers.

Only 22 Tests so a small sample size.

First 11 he averaged 23.7 which included a dismal series in Sri Lanka. Last 11 he has averaged 40.

We'll see how it looks in another 20 Tests time. He'll be keen to make amends in Sri Lanka. I imagine he'll open like he did with success in India

 

[ABAB]

Take that up with the Australian board, not the people who handed out suspensions to the other players

And the PM at that time lol.

 

[Bedi]

That is one for the ages! They said you never make it...

 

[Moonwatcher]

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Yep, there's a reason teams stick with champions when fans want them dropped.

 

[grumbleguts]

To quote Steve Smith: Cop some of that Smudge!

 

[Cleavy]

What's the plan from here? Do we make as high a score as we can and then hopefully we knock them over twice and hope the rain stays away the next 3 days?

re-evaulate game situation after 1st innings for both teams

 

[Cmarsh]

Yes, "You see those people? They've come to see me bat, not you umpire, play on."

And the Poms claim Australia are cheats.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Oh please.
Domestic Sports League Salary Cap Rorting is nowhere near as severe/embarrassing to our country from an international Sports community perspective.

I still get crap from a couple of my English mates about the disgraceful acts Warner and Smith did.

What's worse, esp as captain, I don't think Smudger was actually generally remorseful at all for what he did (I do feel like Warner was genuinely contrite for his part in it)

You'll never convince me otherwise that no pro Aussie athlete has brought shame and embarrassment to our country over the last 20-30 years than Smith.

Smith actually had little to do with it. Warner was showing Bancroft how to scuff up the ball, Smith walked past, chuckled and said, "I don't want to know". Probably never thought they'd actually do it. His mistake was no asking what they were doing, ie leadership, and was punished.

Still, sandpaper did nothing. No-where near as affective as England's Murray's Mints. A couple of cm's of sandpaper would wear out before it did much. Unfortunately, it was deliberate attempt at cheating and were punished as they should be. In England they got MBE's for cheating.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

What's the plan from here? Do we make as high a score as we can and then hopefully we knock them over twice and hope the rain stays away the next 3 days?

Something like that, try and bat just once. Surely Marsh is given a licence to just have a crack today.

 

[grumbleguts]

And the Poms claim Australia are cheats.

The English have cheated since day one. Biggest cheats in world sport. Not just cricket.

 

[radiojake]

Random question for the stats fanatics

When a player has 9 centuries and 17 50s (as Head now does) , are the 9 50s that they made in their centuries included in that total of 17 ? Or completely seperate?

 

[Lunchtime]

I’m well aware of the context and it was a great innings

Again, for a player to be considered in the very elite tier they are going to need to do it more than once.

Warner copped it his whole career; he went to SA when they were at the top of the tree and smoked them everywhere, and Bangladesh, lowly though they may be, managed to draw a series 1-1 against Australia over there; Warner still managed back to back hundreds there and won Australia a test with one of them in a fourth innings chase

Exactly right and well said. Unfortunately we have a lot of people on this site who are biased one eyed Aussie cricket fans who are stuck in the Aussie cricket bubble and don't like that Bubble to he burst.

Warner struggled outside Australia consistently and quite rightly copped it. Travis Head can not consistently get the job done outside Australia so quite rightly he should be questioned too. Anyone who doesn't is far too emotional and has a poor feel for the game and their decision making in regards to cricket is lacking a lot. It's stupid actually.

Both Warner and Head are good but they aren't elite. The elite are good outside their home country.