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Caroline Wilson questions Dustin Martin's potential move to Gold Coast
News emerged on Friday afternoon that retired Richmond superstar Dustin Martin had approached the Gold Coast Suns about the potential to play for the club in season 2025. Caroline Wilson has questioned the potential move and said the three-time Norm Smith medallist’s 2024 season was “terrible”...www.3aw.com.au
We will find out next yearThis annoys me even more tbh. If he did that to save his body for GC that’s not dog anymore that’s wolf.
What evidence is there he lied to the club? And what would it matter anyway?
He wouldn't have needed to lie. He could have just said I feel like I want to move to the Suns to play out my days there and it would have been happily arranged by Richmond. In fact this is probably exactly what did happen.
Or he could have not been sure of anything other than he didn't see the point of carrying on at Richmond and wanted time to decide if he wanted to try his luck elsewhere, again, the club would very obviously have been happy to accommodate this.
Dimma probably met him and said Suns can't afford to pay you much, Dusty probably said I am not worried about that at all, but don't want Richmond come out of it with nothing. Dimma probably said don't worry about that, the 2 cubs will sort something out where everyone is happy.
I can't imagine Gale being happy with the false pretences. Most fans bought the retirement merchandise assuming he had retired from AFL.No MR, everyone will not be happy. I certainly won’t be. He said he was retiring. If he goes back on his word it will be a huge slap in the face to us Tiger fans.
Not to mention all the retirement merchandise that he would have got a cut of. Sold under false pretences. It’s deceitful.
What makes you think the club would be happy about any of it? Yes he helped deliver 3 flags but that doesn’t entitle him to make us all look like fools. I can’t understand why he would want to prove the media were right all along. I am extremely disappointed in him.
Spot on . This season he looked unfit and travelling while injured didn’t look interested.We will find out next year
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No MR, everyone will not be happy. I certainly won’t be. He said he was retiring. If he goes back on his word it will be a huge slap in the face to us Tiger fans.
Not to mention all the retirement merchandise that he would have got a cut of. Sold under false pretences. It’s deceitful.
What makes you think the club would be happy about any of it? Yes he helped deliver 3 flags but that doesn’t entitle him to make us all look like fools. I can’t understand why he would want to prove the media were right all along. I am extremely disappointed in him.
The fact that he is confirmed to be talking to GC means he has already made idiots out of all of us.Freddy you are my all-time favourite poster, more favoured than all my other all-time favourites. So I would never like to upset you.
This is the way I see it. Right back to the start, Hardwick. The club clearly doesn't feel majorly aggrieved by anything he has done because they are happily dealing with his team to release Rioli to them, presumably on favourable terms to Richmond.
Go back further, the club had a sensible policy that if a player or anyone else gets a better offer from elsewhere, and you want to go, come and chat to us, we will try to get you to where you want to go and all the best.
So Vickery, Deledio, Butler, Ellis, Higgins, Markov etc etc left, as did Caracella, and other assistants, and ultimately Burge, Innes, all the way up to Peggy and Brendan. Cain Liddle went to Blues as their CEO. Chol, Coleman-Jones, the list just goes on and on. The club has shown it wouldn't hold anyone back against their wishes. No doubt this is something that makes Richmond FC an appealing employer.
Every single person who played any real part in our flags has been treated with dignity and according to their own wishes.
Dusty has said and demonstrated over and over and over he loves the club. There is no reason for him to do anything two faced. He has so many great relationships with people at Richmond. He is an unrestricted Free Agent, he can leave to where he wants to go, for any deal he agrees to and nobody can tell him otherwise. That is his right. What possible reason would he have to deceive Richmond over this? A cut of 300 game merchandise? It could not be worth anywhere near enough to be worth him doing that. It is also not worth Gold Coast or Hardwick being involved in any deceipt against Richmond. They are for example trying to get a long contracted player who could be vital to their first flag tilt out of Punt Road. And they need to deal with Richmond ongoing. And other clubs.
Richmond, or specifically Balir Hartley, has clearly spoken to certain players with trade or free agency value at some point in 2024 and said we won't push you but if you fancy going somewhere else, then if we can get the right deal and it suits you, we are open to it. And these are the clubs we feel we can potentially get the right deals from...Eagles, Fremantle, Suns.
Dusty is a huge legacy player. The club clearly wanted him to be a 300 game player for Richmond so they made it happen. We know Blair keeps his own counsel. Dusty will have almost certainly told Blair whatever his true thoughts were at the time. Blair has likely had to have a chat with his Suns counterpart about it at some point, and of course Dusty would have been in talks witht hem as well. And this is how Schwartz has caught wind of it.
If Richmond wanted Dusty to say publicly he had decided to play for the Suns in 2025, then I am sure that is what he would have said. For whatever reason, maybe just to do with the big occasions of his 300th and Dusty and Grimes and Marlion being sent off by Richmond fans, the club has not wanted that announced.
Dusty wouldn't care about proving the media right or wrong, he has never played that game. He has just made a decision he feels is right for him. He has obviously informed someone or a small number of people about it, because it:
A) got out, and
B) did not get out with enough confirmation for most people to believe it.
I am willing to bet he informed Blair Hartley very early on in the piece in order to assist Richmond with its planning. And he has clearly informed the Suns because they needed to know as well, for the same reason.
It is not some huge deceipt. Dusty has not come out and made public statements this year along the lines of he would never play anywhere else. At least not that I am aware of. If Dusty wants to play for another club then it is for the best for Richmond that he does not play for Richmond. The club is focussed on a part of its future now that Dusty is just too old to play a meaningful part in. And how could we possibly wish him anything but the best at the Suns? It is Dusty.
I know you will be mad with me, but those are my thoughts.
Same. I haven’t cared about football or taken it seriously since 2021.I must admit I don’t really care
Nah, you do that to yourself.The fact that he is confirmed to be talking to GC means he has already made idiots out of all of us.
I dont blame Dusty, this is on Hardwick, he has been in Rioli's ear & now Dusty & convinced them to change there loyalty when we have been kicked in the guts. Hardwick is the F***in traitor. Hopefully the Suns fail to win a GF why Hardwick is there.
Dusty is a rat now you say.
Lol.
A man provides a magnificent feast for all, but grabs a sneaky sandwich on his way out the door he is a thief I suppose? Your need for attention is getting the better of you TI. Take a chill pill, enjoy the 2024 NAB AFL Richmond Draft, and thank the very Lord you are a Tiger supporter.
Freddy you are my all-time favourite poster, more favoured than all my other all-time favourites. So I would never like to upset you.
This is the way I see it. Right back to the start, Hardwick. The club clearly doesn't feel majorly aggrieved by anything he has done because they are happily dealing with his team to release Rioli to them, presumably on favourable terms to Richmond.
Go back further, the club had a sensible policy that if a player or anyone else gets a better offer from elsewhere, and you want to go, come and chat to us, we will try to get you to where you want to go and all the best.
So Vickery, Deledio, Butler, Ellis, Higgins, Markov etc etc left, as did Caracella, and other assistants, and ultimately Burge, Innes, all the way up to Peggy and Brendan. Cain Liddle went to Blues as their CEO. Chol, Coleman-Jones, the list just goes on and on. The club has shown it wouldn't hold anyone back against their wishes. No doubt this is something that makes Richmond FC an appealing employer.
Every single person who played any real part in our flags has been treated with dignity and according to their own wishes.
Dusty has said and demonstrated over and over and over he loves the club. There is no reason for him to do anything two faced. He has so many great relationships with people at Richmond. He is an unrestricted Free Agent, he can leave to where he wants to go, for any deal he agrees to and nobody can tell him otherwise. That is his right. What possible reason would he have to deceive Richmond over this? A cut of 300 game merchandise? It could not be worth anywhere near enough to be worth him doing that. It is also not worth Gold Coast or Hardwick being involved in any deceipt against Richmond. They are for example trying to get a long contracted player who could be vital to their first flag tilt out of Punt Road. And they need to deal with Richmond ongoing. And other clubs.
Richmond, or specifically Balir Hartley, has clearly spoken to certain players with trade or free agency value at some point in 2024 and said we won't push you but if you fancy going somewhere else, then if we can get the right deal and it suits you, we are open to it. And these are the clubs we feel we can potentially get the right deals from...Eagles, Fremantle, Suns.
Dusty is a huge legacy player. The club clearly wanted him to be a 300 game player for Richmond so they made it happen. We know Blair keeps his own counsel. Dusty will have almost certainly told Blair whatever his true thoughts were at the time. Blair has likely had to have a chat with his Suns counterpart about it at some point, and of course Dusty would have been in talks witht hem as well. And this is how Schwartz has caught wind of it.
If Richmond wanted Dusty to say publicly he had decided to play for the Suns in 2025, then I am sure that is what he would have said. For whatever reason, maybe just to do with the big occasions of his 300th and Dusty and Grimes and Marlion being sent off by Richmond fans, the club has not wanted that announced.
Dusty wouldn't care about proving the media right or wrong, he has never played that game. He has just made a decision he feels is right for him. He has obviously informed someone or a small number of people about it, because it:
A) got out, and
B) did not get out with enough confirmation for most people to believe it.
I am willing to bet he informed Blair Hartley very early on in the piece in order to assist Richmond with its planning. And he has clearly informed the Suns because they needed to know as well, for the same reason.
It is not some huge deceipt. Dusty has not come out and made public statements this year along the lines of he would never play anywhere else. At least not that I am aware of. If Dusty wants to play for another club then it is for the best for Richmond that he does not play for Richmond. The club is focussed on a part of its future now that Dusty is just too old to play a meaningful part in. And how could we possibly wish him anything but the best at the Suns? It is Dusty.
I know you will be mad with me, but those are my thoughts.
If Dusty leaves he’s coming off the man cave wall .
No I am not mad at you MR. You are entitled to your opinion. We will just have to agree to disagree.
If he goes there I can only imagine the ridicule we will cop from oppo supporters on the main board. That’ll be fun, NOT.
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5 minutes up the road, actually suprised I havent heard this yet.Morro moz mate of mine spotted dusty at nobbys surf club last night , might be worth checking in with your contacts who he was with
he is going to make more money if he stays retired from merch than if he goes to gold coat for a cheap pay dayNo MR, everyone will not be happy. I certainly won’t be. He said he was retiring. If he goes back on his word it will be a huge slap in the face to us Tiger fans.
Not to mention all the retirement merchandise that he would have got a cut of. Sold under false pretences. It’s deceitful.
What makes you think the club would be happy about any of it? Yes he helped deliver 3 flags but that doesn’t entitle him to make us all look like fools. I can’t understand why he would want to prove the media were right all along. I am extremely disappointed in him.
lmao as if the cfl wont bend the rules for the team they own gold coastOk, some points here. He has retired. He's not under contract. Richmond isn't paying him. The rules have changed around what Dustin can potentially do after what Mal Michael did all those years ago. Martin can't sign anywhere this season. Why? Please see below.
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