Senior 43. Ashton Moir - Arr0w

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If this kid could be put under someone like Ed Curnow or Weiters or Walsh’s support he could be the electric medium forward that we need.

Good luck Ashton …. this is your second chance (park 2023), get fit, impress the coaches and team mates with your attitude and let your skills do all the talking
 

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Such an interesting selection this one. The up-side is massive. A rangy HFF who looks very good in the air and has silky skills. The perfect replacement for Jack Martin in 2-3 years.

Looking at his highlights he plays bigger than I would have thought and is a very good overhead mark.

Good height for a third tall at 187cm. Has a good vertical leap and his bio shows he finished fifth in the agility test at the national combine, which makes for great reading.

I really hope the club is patient with him and builds his body/endurance so he is AFL ready when he makes his debut.
 
Love the Drake said:
Such an interesting selection this one. The up-side is massive. A rangy HFF who looks very good in the air and has silky skills. The perfect replacement for Jack Martin in 2-3 years.

Looking at his highlights he plays bigger than I would have thought and is a very good overhead mark.

Good height for a third tall at 187cm. Has a good vertical leap and his bio shows he finished fifth in the agility test at the national combine, which makes for great reading.

I really hope the club is patient with him and builds his body/endurance so he is AFL ready when he makes his debut.
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reckon he'll play Rd 1.
 
4flagsin5yrs said:
reckon he'll play Rd 1.
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Would be incredible if he played Round 1. In a way I hope you are right, because it would be so exciting.

We are playing a very tough, seasoned team in Brisbane in Round Zero so it would be a massive ask to debut. I reckon Voss and the MC will take in experience players for our first game. Martin and JSOS play the 3rd forward role and would be ahead of Ashton I would suggest.

I'm thinking we will take our time with him. From all reports he had injury issues last year and hasn't got the base level fitness required to play AFL.

I'm more than happy watching him develop his body/endurance in the VFL
 
On reflection of the last few games, I don’t see him playing in the AFL this year. Needs to get his tank up. I hope I’m wrong. Got some serious skill however
 

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Away from footy skills, huge shoutout to his fan interaction on Sunday, super engaging with the youngsters / anyone really.

During the signing was asking the kids questions and very talkative. Appreciate all different types play footy and not everyone is extroverted but he was great.

In my limited exposure seems the players on the outer or not the stars can be sheepish, he was brilliant. Wonderful kid
 
4flagsin5yrs said:
doesn't the high performance mob set him up with a program?
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That might be why the performances are so low at the moment: they're loading him up and then keeping him on top of things on game day. Not how I'd do it though, and probably not the case.

He's got a history of hip - and I'm assuming groin - issues, so it might just be he's playing through some stuff and they might make a call soon on corrective surgery.
 
Jimmae said:
That might be why the performances are so low at the moment: they're loading him up and then keeping him on top of things on game day. Not how I'd do it though, and probably not the case.

He's got a history of hip - and I'm assuming groin - issues, so it might just be he's playing through some stuff and they might make a call soon on corrective surgery.
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Yeah, not wanting to pot the bloke, but his performances have been a little underwhelming to date.....BUT, he's predominantly been playing with a bunch of kids at VFL level so far, so not easy to gauge his development. Maybe he's still carrying that hip....who knows?

Either way, you can see that he's got AFL attributes in spades, so hopefully once we start getting injured players back on the park, he'll be surrounded by more experience and can start developing his game to a new level. He seems the type of kid that would thrive more at AFL level rather than state league similar to Elijah, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Still reckon he'll get a call up during the 2nd half of the season.
 
Bamboo Harvester said:
Yeah, not wanting to pot the bloke, but his performances have been a little underwhelming to date.....BUT, he's predominantly been playing with a bunch of kids at VFL level so far, so not easy to gauge his development. Maybe he's still carrying that hip....who knows?

Either way, you can see that he's got AFL attributes in spades, so hopefully once we start getting injured players back on the park, he'll be surrounded by more experience and can start developing his game to a new level. He seems the type of kid that would thrive more at AFL level rather than state league similar to Elijah, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Still reckon he'll get a call up during the 2nd half of the season.
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I don’t think he’ll get the call up but you can see glimpses in him, hope we get him into a solid running program this off season as he’ll really benefit from it - from his own admission he hardly ran last year

He’ll be a jet, I’m sure
 
The knock on him during his draft year was he wasn’t hard working or committed to being his best - so this year hasn’t been a surprise. Will be up to him to him whether he really wants to play AFL or to back home to SA.




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Manhattanite said:
The knock on him during his draft year was he wasn’t hard working or committed to being his best - so this year hasn’t been a surprise. Will be up to him to him whether he really wants to play AFL or to back home to SA.




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Because of a chronic and debilitating injury that prevented him from running hard on match day and pretty much from training at all
 
Jimmae said:
Yeah I think the time has come to have a clear plan to get Moir recovering to be able to try and run out games properly, or booking him in for surgery. It looks like we're flogging a dead horse.
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Yeah, NAH.

Bloke isn’t right, but the body is an amazing machine.

Ne had 12 months of trying to live up to his potential, to put himself on display to create a career in the game. Well documented he has issues. Hips, groin? Basically core. Our bodies and brains protect ourselves.

Surely if he is playing regular footy, in a professional environment, his body is OK. That doesn’t mean that he has confidence in his body, that he is pushing himself in the contest and giving 100%. Consciously or subconsciously he is holding back.He is competing, but they are straight line, mostly single effort involvements.

I am very much hoping it is a confidence thing. An interview on game day with Wil White just after Ashton kicked his goal suggested that (from memory) Ashton is a phenomenal player. Suggesting he is still doing the spectacular on the training track at the very least.

If it is not confidence, we have a problem. If it is confidence, let’s allow the staff to build up his body and his mind. He is signed for three years we have to back him and his mentors in.
 
Coona Blues said:
Yeah, NAH.

Bloke isn’t right, but the body is an amazing machine.

Ne had 12 months of trying to live up to his potential, to put himself on display to create a career in the game. Well documented he has issues. Hips, groin? Basically core. Our bodies and brains protect ourselves.

Surely if he is playing regular footy, in a professional environment, his body is OK. That doesn’t mean that he has confidence in his body, that he is pushing himself in the contest and giving 100%. Consciously or subconsciously he is holding back.He is competing, but they are straight line, mostly single effort involvements.

I am very much hoping it is a confidence thing. An interview on game day with Wil White just after Ashton kicked his goal suggested that (from memory) Ashton is a phenomenal player. Suggesting he is still doing the spectacular on the training track at the very least.

If it is not confidence, we have a problem. If it is confidence, let’s allow the staff to build up his body and his mind. He is signed for three years we have to back him and his mentors in.
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Takes YEARS to build a genuine fitness base, once he gets it back he’ll be good to go
 
Coona Blues said:
I am very much hoping it is a confidence thing. An interview on game day with Wil White just after Ashton kicked his goal suggested that (from memory) Ashton is a phenomenal player. Suggesting he is still doing the spectacular on the training track at the very least.
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As an aside, I really like Wil White as a player....doubtful he gets AFL listed, but he's been really impressive in the half forward role. Bewdiful left foot as well, knows where the goals are.

I agree with your assessment of Ashton though, something aint right. You can already see the amazing skills he has when he gets the pill, but there's definitely something missing which is holding him back.
 

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