5 Worst Successive Captains

[Frankston Rover]

Can any club match the Tigers for picking the worst players to captain their club?

Their last 5 skippers:

Jeff Hogg 1993
Tony Free 1994-96
Matthew Knights 1997-2000
Wayne Campbell 2001-04
Kane Johnson 2005-Present

Can anyone else match these abysmal appointments?

 

[GuzzLG]

1 Richie Vandenberg is worse than those 5 put together.

 

[JSFish]

What was wrong with knighta and cambos captaincy?

 

[Frankston Rover]

Knights?

Biggest front running squealer of the modern era. Ran crying to the tribunal to dob on Libba.

Wayne Campbell rates an 11 on the pea-heart scale.

 

[JSFish]

Knights?

Biggest front running squealer of the modern era. Ran crying to the tribunal to dob on Libba.

Wayne Campbell rates an 11 on the pea-heart scale.

Some dirty little bitch punches knighta in the face and deservedly gets 5 weeks, and it's knightas fault? He woulda got 5 weeks anyway, cos he was a dirty little sh*t

 

[JSFish]

1 Richie Vandenberg is worse than those 5 put together.

Mmm good point, a somewhat hypocritical thread

 

[And_ROOS]

Knights?

Biggest front running squealer of the modern era. Ran crying to the tribunal to dob on Libba.

Wayne Campbell rates an 11 on the pea-heart scale.

AHAHA pea heart Campbell is still better then Vandenturd, what an AWFUL troll this is. Do you fail in life as often as you do on this forum?

 

[Fat Tony]

Geeze enough with the Richmond bagging threads
I know this is Bay 13 but still all this shyte is just making us look like jerks

Also as bad as the Richmond's successive captains were none of them can match the "Vandenberg" when comes to captaining like cr-p.

 

[Hawkamania!]

1 Richie Vandenberg is worse than those 5 put together.

2004 (year before Vanders' Captaincy) 4 wins.
2005 (1st year with Vanders as Captain) 5 wins/25% improvement.
2006 (2nd year with Vanders as Captain) 9 wins/80% improvement .
2007 (3rd year with Vanders as Captain) 14 wins/56% improvement (including finals).

In each year of Vanders' Captaincy, the Hawks have improved.

Take a look at your own captain first before mocking another. Hird will not be there to help highpants out.

 

[GuzzLG]

2004 (year before Vanders' Captaincy) 4 wins.
2005 (1st year with Vanders as Captain) 5 wins/25% improvement.
2006 (2nd year with Vanders as Captain) 9 wins/80% improvement .
2007 (3rd year with Vanders as Captain) 14 wins/56% improvement (including finals).

In each year of Vanders' Captaincy, the Hawks have improved.

Take a look at your own captain first before mocking another. Hird will not be there to help highpants out.

There you have it, undeniable evidence that shows what a legend Vandenberg is.

I can happily look at my captain and say that he has more football ability in one of his ribs (where his pants sit) than Vandenberg has in his whole body.

Lloyd is a champion of the game, Vandenberg is a nothing player that nobody outside Hawthorn rates or has respect for.

 

[Hawkamania!]

There you have it, undeniable evidence that shows what a legend Vandenberg is.

I can happily look at my captain and say that he has more football ability in one of his ribs (where his pants sit) than Vandenberg has in his whole body.

Lloyd is a champion of the game, Vandenberg is a nothing player that nobody outside Hawthorn rates or has respect for.

Do you have anything to back up what a great leader (HA!) Lloyd is? Anything? Anything?

And yet a "nothing" player has shown more leadership in any moment on and off the field as captain than Lloyd has. At least the other bombers can appreciate Lloyd's diving efforts.

 

[GuzzLG]

Do you have anything to back up what a great leader (HA!) Lloyd is? Anything? Anything?

And yet a "nothing" player has shown more leadership in any moment on and off the field as captain than Lloyd has. At least the other bombers can appreciate Lloyd's diving efforts.

Such a tool you are.

How can you 'back up' someone being a great leader? It's pretty intangible and can't be proven with cold hard facts, yet you pathetically attempt to do so by showing some meaningless correlation between games captained and games won by the Hawks.

I also never even said Lloyd was a great leader, just a champion player, although a good leader as well.

 

[Dogga79]

Can any club match the Tigers for picking the worst players to captain their club?

Their last 5 skippers:

Jeff Hogg 1993
Tony Free 1994-96
Matthew Knights 1997-2000
Wayne Campbell 2001-04
Kane Johnson 2005-Present

Can anyone else match these abysmal appointments?

What happened to Kane Johnson? he was an absolute ripper of a player for the crows, but now I hardly hear anything about him.

 

[DapperDon]

2004 (year before Vanders' Captaincy) 4 wins.
2005 (1st year with Vanders as Captain) 5 wins/25% improvement.
2006 (2nd year with Vanders as Captain) 9 wins/80% improvement .
2007 (3rd year with Vanders as Captain) 14 wins/56% improvement (including finals).

In each year of Vanders' Captaincy, the Hawks have improved.

Take a look at your own captain first before mocking another. Hird will not be there to help highpants out.

2006- 1st year Lloyd captain 3 wins
2007- 2nd year Lloyd captain 10 wins

not too bad if you ask me

 

[JSFish]

What happened to Kane Johnson? he was an absolute ripper of a player for the crows, but now I hardly hear anything about him.

He won our b 'n' f last year. People outside the club probably didn't notice him much cos he was just tagging the number one midfielder completely out of the game every match, but inside the club he was definitely noticed. This year he was a bit off, hopefully he can get back up again.

 

[Hawkamania!]

Such a tool you are.

How can you 'back up' someone being a great leader? It's pretty intangible and can't be proven with cold hard facts, yet you pathetically attempt to do so by showing some meaningless correlation between games captained and games won by the Hawks.

I also never even said Lloyd was a great leader, just a champion player, although a good leader as well.

Tools are useful, you are not.

I presented some evidence with stats to back myself up and you chuck a hissy fit since you have nothing to back yourself. Another plus for Vandenberg is that he was instrumental in implementing discipline at Hawthorn and set an example that the other players looked up to.

IMO, a captain's greatest attribute is his leadership abilities and ability to improve those around him on and off the field. These are two things Vandenberg excelled at.

I never called Lloyd a poor player, just a poor leader.

 

[GuzzLG]

Tools are useful, you are not.

I presented some evidence with stats to back myself up and you chuck a hissy fit since you have nothing to back yourself. Another plus for Vandenberg is that he was instrumental in implementing discipline at Hawthorn and set an example that the other players looked up to.

IMO, a captain's greatest attribute is his leadership abilities and ability to improve those around him on and off the field. These are two things Vandenberg excelled at.

I never called Lloyd a poor player, just a poor leader.

You like to talk about having evidence.

PROVE that paragraph, here's a hint... you can't.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

There you have it, undeniable evidence that shows what a legend Vandenberg is.

I can happily look at my captain and say that he has more football ability in one of his ribs (where his pants sit) than Vandenberg has in his whole body.

Lloyd is a champion of the game, Vandenberg is a nothing player that nobody outside Hawthorn rates or has respect for.

And you have just confirmed you know nothing about football and probably life itself.

Captaincy is not about the best player in the team, it's the best leader.

Cast your mind back to the way Vanders has led the Hawks into battle against your soft mob and the leadership Lloyd showed running from every contest.

Ahhhhhhhhhh, get it now.

 

[GuzzLG]

And you have just confirmed you know nothing about football and probably life itself.

Captaincy is not about the best player in the team, it's the best leader.

Cast your mind back to the way Vanders has led the Hawks into battle against your soft mob and the leadership Lloyd showed running from every contest.

Ahhhhhhhhhh, get it now.

And you have just confirmed you have the intelligence of a 10 year old by not being able to comprehend a couple of sentences.

Please show me where I said or implied that being a great leader is about being a great player.

 

[Cohzee]

He won our b 'n' f last year. People outside the club probably didn't notice him much cos he was just tagging the number one midfielder completely out of the game every match, but inside the club he was definitely noticed. This year he was a bit off, hopefully he can get back up again.

Did he play round 6? (Not a troll, curious.)

 

[JSFish]

Did he play round 6? (Not a troll, curious.)

Yeah he played every game this year.

 

[burto]

Tools are useful, you are not.

I presented some evidence with stats to back myself up and you chuck a hissy fit since you have nothing to back yourself. Another plus for Vandenberg is that he was instrumental in implementing discipline at Hawthorn and set an example that the other players looked up to.

IMO, a captain's greatest attribute is his leadership abilities and ability to improve those around him on and off the field. These are two things Vandenberg excelled at.

I never called Lloyd a poor player, just a poor leader.

Ah of course, like sniping Kanga's players in the back in the final this year? And I won't mention the topic that cannot be discussed. Such discipline!

Since you are so big on stats, prove that Lloyd is a poor leader.

And what's wrong with wearing high pants? I'd wear high pants too if I was half the player of Lloyds callibre.

 

[And_ROOS]

2004 (year before Vanders' Captaincy) 4 wins.
2005 (1st year with Vanders as Captain) 5 wins/25% improvement.
2006 (2nd year with Vanders as Captain) 9 wins/80% improvement .
2007 (3rd year with Vanders as Captain) 14 wins/56% improvement (including finals).

In each year of Vanders' Captaincy, the Hawks have improved.

Take a look at your own captain first before mocking another. Hird will not be there to help highpants out.

Pretty easy to improve considering you hit rock bottom and collected draft picks...

 

[_RT_]

2004 (year before Vanders' Captaincy) 4 wins.
2005 (1st year with Vanders as Captain) 5 wins/25% improvement.
2006 (2nd year with Vanders as Captain) 9 wins/80% improvement .
2007 (3rd year with Vanders as Captain) 14 wins/56% improvement (including finals).

In each year of Vanders' Captaincy, the Hawks have improved.

Take a look at your own captain first before mocking another. Hird will not be there to help highpants out.

How many of those 14 victories last year was Captain Fantastic apart of? By my count it was 5.

Of the 9 wins in 06 it was good to see Captain Fantastic out there for 8 of them but when the Hawks were pushing shit uphill in the middle of the season where was this great Captain of yours, I believe he was sitting up in the warm coaches box using an injury as an excuse.

And before you go criticising Johnson as being a soft captain, he played the first half of this season with a broken hand and didn't miss one game when he quite easily could have.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 Richie Vandenberg is worse than those 5 put together.

Not answering the question really there are you..

Sh*t player but a greatly respected captain. Great leader.