5th Test Border Gavaskar Trophy January 3-7 1000hrs @ the SCG

[sr36]

Warne grabbed Marlin Samuals and abused him, McGrath used to stand in the middle of the pitch and abuse Sri Lankans like Romesh Kaluwitharana and others when they hit him for 6.

There's context to the McGrath Sarwan one. Sarwan made a quip about McGrath's wife, not realising that she was dying of cancer at the time.

 

[PhatBoy]

There's context to the McGrath Sarwan one. Sarwan made a quip about McGrath's wife, not realising that she was dying of cancer at the time.

Indeed which was understandable, though he probably shouldn’t have made a moderately homophobic slur to begin with.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

There's context to the McGrath Sarwan one. Sarwan made a quip about McGrath's wife, not realising that she was dying of cancer at the time.

Fair enough .

 

[MarcMaverick]

Look Konstas will mature and be more respectful, if he is still being this cavalier at Kholis age now, then its embarrassing

 

[MarcMaverick]

In saying that Kholi and the Indians let a 19 year old rattle them. They embarrassed themselves.

 

[sr36]

Because it was between Kwarja and Bumrah. Like I said, Border, Ponting and Mark Waugh said it wasn't his business to get involved.

You've lost the plot on this one.

Konstas said something along the lines of: "he's not ready mate" And you're outraged, but think that instead of shoulder bumping him Kohli should have abused him and told him to shut up, when he didn't say anything, except with the bat. And as a result of Konstass nothing comment, the best bowler in the world stepped away from his plan of getting through his over quickly to try to put him in his place with a bit of posturing. It's not Konstas's fault that Uzzy played back to a half volley and made it a dangerous ball.

Konstass sins were playing some unconventional shots to the new ball, being chatty at short leg and saying he's not ready. And you're lining him up ...

A 19 year old unsettled the best bowler in the world in his first innings in test cricket and then played up to the crowd and the Indian cricket team wanted to go him for it. There really wasn't anything more to it than that.

 

[Joffaboy]

Warne grabbed Marlin Samuals and abused him, McGrath used to stand in the middle of the pitch and abuse Sri Lankans like Romesh Kaluwitharana and others when they hit him for 6.

Yes very unpleasant, not one shoulder charge on a 19 y.o. Mcgrath should have known better but Sarwan sledged his wife who was battling breast cancer.
Virat Kohli went out of his way to physically assault a kid in his first test because he hit a couple of fours and sixes.

 

[Joffaboy]

If you're good enough to be there in the first place then play on and if you dish it out expect it back, the only problem I really had was the Kohli physical content because that definitely isn't cricket. If Konstas wants to put a target on his back then let him, he's the one who'll have to good enough to wear it.

Exactly, its test cricket, but it is not a physical game and thats where sour old Virattled came up terribly short and forever tarnished his reputation and lost respect of the cricket world except for Indian fanboi simps.

 

[sr36]

Indeed which was understandable, though he probably shouldn’t have made a moderately homophobic slur to begin with.

Definitely not - by today's standards. We were the ugly Aussies - hostile, intimidating, arrogant and obnoxious really. With a bizarre sense that our line was the one true line and then would get uppity if other countries had a different line.

I don't think we're an ugly team anymore though. India on the other hand is heading in that direction.

 

[MisterMarcus]

You need to earn your stripes before you start acting like a clown imo.

What's the necessary number of tests before you're allowed to talk back to the opposition?

 

[010203]

Not even Sunny is sticking up for Kohli

"What Kohli did with the shoulder bump is simply not cricket. Indians are not shy to retaliate if provoked, but here the provocation was simply not there".

12ft

 

[revo333]

Definitely not - by today's standards. We were the ugly Aussies - hostile, intimidating, arrogant and obnoxious really. With a bizarre sense that our line was the one true line and then would get uppity if other countries had a different line.

I don't think we're an ugly team anymore though. India on the other hand is heading in that direction.

I think if you make the first comment you have to be prepared for any response in retaliation.

Sarwan crossed the line with the comment but McGrath is equally in the wrong for saying what he did in the first place.

Interestingly you don't hear many people stand up for McGrath, He is up with Ian Healy as the most dislikable on field to have ever played for Australia.

My opinion only..

 

[MarcMaverick]

Not even Sunny is sticking up for Kohli

"What Kohli did with the shoulder bump is simply not cricket. Indians are not shy to retaliate if provoked, but here the provocation was simply not there".

12ft

Exactly, Provocation would be if Konstas attempted to smack Kholi in the head with the cricket bat and Kholi dodged and countered with a shoulder block in self-defence, then Kholi would be justified in doing so. All Konstas was doing was walking down the pitch, unstrapping and re-strapping the velcro on his gloves, have an in between overs consult with Ussie, and minding his own business.

 

[revo333]

Definitely not - by today's standards. We were the ugly Aussies - hostile, intimidating, arrogant and obnoxious really. With a bizarre sense that our line was the one true line and then would get uppity if other countries had a different line.

I don't think we're an ugly team anymore though. India on the other hand is heading in that direction.

We are not, the only comeback at the moment from opposition fans is 'sandpaper'

 

[monty1104]

Lara was amazing. Had to be my favourite overseas player to watch

How the hell he could whip a ball through any part of the field with that back lift of his still has me in aura of him.

We were very lucky to see him; VVS; Sachin; Ponting et al during that era.

Did a tour of Lords years ago and part of it was through the visitor’s rooms. We all got asked to take a seat and the guide then went and told us which famous players used that seat/locker. You could not wipe the grin off my face when I found out I was in Lara’s favourite spot.

Growing up in the early 90s I “barracked” for the West Indies, mostly because of Lara, but also Ambrose and Hooper. This was at a time when I was too young to understand you didn’t just pick a team to follow. I guess now with the advent of franchise cricket, I could be considered a visionary

 

[western royboy]

Warne pretty famously did with Marlon Samuels, albeit it wasn’t a test match.

You can’t just grab someone’s shirt and start yelling at them in the face either.

Not really sure what it matters one way or the other

I was there the night Warne went Samuels, with three young kids essentially to see the great Warne. It marked the guaranteed end of him because he’d never had to resort to that type of stuff before, plenty of verbal and mental stuff but never that.

The same with Kohli.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

You've lost the plot on this one.

Konstas said something along the lines of: "he's not ready mate" And you're outraged, but think that instead of shoulder bumping him Kohli should have abused him and told him to shut up, when he didn't say anything, except with the bat. And as a result of Konstass nothing comment, the best bowler in the world stepped away from his plan of getting through his over quickly to try to put him in his place with a bit of posturing. It's not Konstas's fault that Uzzy played back to a half volley and made it a dangerous ball.

Konstass sins were playing some unconventional shots to the new ball, being chatty at short leg and saying he's not ready. And you're lining him up ...

A 19 year old unsettled the best bowler in the world in his first innings in test cricket and then played up to the crowd and the Indian cricket team wanted to go him for it. There really wasn't anything more to it than that.

Like I've said , he was being a smartass, Border Ponting and Mark Waugh said it was none of his business. Do you respect their opinion?

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Yes very unpleasant, not one shoulder charge on a 19 y.o. Mcgrath should have known better but Sarwan sledged his wife who was battling breast cancer.
Virat Kohli went out of his way to physically assault a kid in his first test because he hit a couple of fours and sixes.

Physical assault you reckon? There was nothing in it mate. It was unwarranted but Kohli wanted to stick a firecracker up the young upstarts behind.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Yes very unpleasant, not one shoulder charge on a 19 y.o. Mcgrath should have known better but Sarwan sledged his wife who was battling breast cancer.
Virat Kohli went out of his way to physically assault a kid in his first test because he hit a couple of fours and sixes.

Ok but don't tell me Australia has no history of sledging and intimidation.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

What's the necessary number of tests before you're allowed to talk back to the opposition?

Not sure but not in your first test.

 

[JimmyBC]

Ok Boomer

 

[MarcMaverick]

AP just hates a humble and successful Aussie team.

 

[Silver Tongue]

I was there the night Warne went Samuels, with three young kids essentially to see the great Warne. It marked the guaranteed end of him because he’d never had to resort to that type of stuff before, plenty of verbal and mental stuff but never that.

The same with Kohli.

Yeah that was appalling from Warne. That stuff belongs in an AFL game not cricket.

 

[Gough]

Warne and Andrew Hudson at Wanderers at the other end of his career was pretty ordinary too.

 

[Silver Tongue]

Not sure but not in your first test.

Why not?