5th Test Border Gavaskar Trophy January 3-7 1000hrs @ the SCG

[Young Redleg]

You are entitled to your view but you’re bringing politics to every board you post on while you have that avatar.

I’ve not said anything remotely racist. You are pretty dense for going there at all.

It's also very rich of someone to claim to be a progressive while simultaneously justifying violence towards a 19 year old

 

[greatwhiteshark]

The Konstas criticism is so annoying. As soon as someone shows some flair every single mistake they make is attributed to them being immature and reckless (even if they score better/more than pretty much any other opening bat of the series).

The rush to push any big personality down is so weird. It's like people don't actually want to be entertained. We want heroes but we also want them to stay inside very specific set of guidelines

Agree with this however when he is himself and he has his say you can't come out and defend him just because he is 19.
I am all for him being himself, but he must back it up with runs and hopefully he does. He looks to have an infectious personality which is great for the team.
But if you give it out then expect it back with interest and I am sure he does this. It's more the fans who think it's not fair if he gets it back.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

1) Don't care if they were up, they still sucked and are not yet worthy to hold a test IMO.
2) We should sacrifice a good atmosphere just so you can build interest? lol? What's test cricket in WA? grassroots? What about interest in Tassie where they will actually show up to the test match?
3) This is just a flat rubbish and obscenely lazy excuse. Adelaide (6-10 Dec Note School Holidays started AFTER the test in Adelaide) and Brisbane (14-18 Dec) were both also played during the working period, Adelaide was a sell out and Brisbane was rain impacted and STILL got decent crowds when play was on, would have also been jam packed if not for the rain.

The notion that work stops people going to the test match in Perth is complete and utter horse shit. it doesn't stop other states going, so it shouldn't stop you guys either.

4) The crowd atmosphere filters through the TV and adds to the specifical. Perth was rubbish.

I'm supposed to travel from Sydney to Perth cause you guys over there are too lazy to show up in your own state? lol if the stadiums so good, you go to it if you live there?

The only thing keeping the test in Perth is the TV time for EST states, and even then, I'd rather it go to Tassie. It's far better a spectacle than Perth. The rest of that waffle you posted is complete hogwash.

Don't agree with all of this but do agree we don't turn up. Tests should of stayed at the WACA and that should of been changed to 25k. It was a famous ground like Newlands in SA and now its lost to cricket.

As for Optus well it's just not the same for me, I loved the WACA. I understood the downfalls for the patrons but they could of been fixed. Optus is a big concrete jungle and for 6-8 hours it's not for me. As great a stadium as it is. It's a footy stadium and not a cricket stadium for me. many think much differently though.

As for the test in Perth they will argue that we are getting bigger crowds than ever so whats with the complaints?

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Don't agree with all of this but do agree we don't turn up. Tests should of stayed at the WACA and that should of been changed to 25k. It was a famous ground like Newlands in SA and now its lost to cricket.

As for Optus well it's just not the same for me, I loved the WACA. I understood the downfalls for the patrons but they could of been fixed. Optus is a big concrete jungle and for 6-8 hours it's not for me. As great a stadium as it is. It's a footy stadium and not a cricket stadium for me. many think much differently though.

As for the test in Perth they will argue that we are getting bigger crowds than ever so whats with the complaints?

At least you are honest about it. Not lying to yourself like that other bloke.

The TV slot is obviously the major reason why it's in Perth due to the EST states tuning in. But just as a cricket punter i think Tassie would be better spectacle.

Perth was crap last year V Pakistan, and a minor improvement this year doesn't justify it IMO. I think Tassie deserve a go. When Tassie took the test off Perth during the Ashes in Covid it was a great event.

 

[Voice of the G]

The point isn't the pure numbers, it's the aesthetic of a big stadium looking mostly empty.

16,000 in Tasmania looks way better than 20,000 at Perth.

It's the same thing that always gets said when MCG games have 20,000 at them. It's still 20,000, but it looks and sounds fairly bleak in that stadium.

I have been at shield games at the MCG with about 150 people, you could hear the banter between 1 of the fieldsman and a spectator.Far better at the Junction oval.

 

[Voice of the G]

Yep Tasmanians are notoriously poor in their support for test cricket, god knows how they’ll be able to maintain an AFL team, particularly one that will struggle to ever get off the bottom of the ladder

Only early days with AFL,lets wait and see.

 

[Gough]

Don't agree with all of this but do agree we don't turn up. Tests should of stayed at the WACA and that should of been changed to 25k. It was a famous ground like Newlands in SA and now its lost to cricket.

As for Optus well it's just not the same for me, I loved the WACA. I understood the downfalls for the patrons but they could of been fixed. Optus is a big concrete jungle and for 6-8 hours it's not for me. As great a stadium as it is. It's a footy stadium and not a cricket stadium for me. many think much differently though.

As for the test in Perth they will argue that we are getting bigger crowds than ever so whats with the complaints?

That's the conclusion I came to looking at it from afar, it looks great for footy but not much chop for the jolly old cricket.

 

[Coach_Required]

1) Don't care if they were up, they still sucked and are not yet worthy to hold a test IMO.
2) We should sacrifice a good atmosphere just so you can build interest? lol? What's test cricket in WA? grassroots? What about interest in Tassie where they will actually show up to the test match?
3) This is just a flat rubbish and obscenely lazy excuse. Adelaide (6-10 Dec Note School Holidays started AFTER the test in Adelaide) and Brisbane (14-18 Dec) were both also played during the working period, Adelaide was a sell out and Brisbane was rain impacted and STILL got decent crowds when play was on, would have also been jam packed if not for the rain.

The notion that work stops people going to the test match in Perth is complete and utter horse shit. it doesn't stop other states going, so it shouldn't stop you guys either.

4) The crowd atmosphere filters through the TV and adds to the specifical. Perth was rubbish.

I'm supposed to travel from Sydney to Perth cause you guys over there are too lazy to show up in your own state? lol if the stadiums so good, you go to it if you live there?

The only thing keeping the test in Perth is the TV time for EST states, and even then, I'd rather it go to Tassie. It's far better a spectacle than Perth. The rest of that waffle you posted is complete hogwash.

Perth was rubbish because we got pantsed.

31K day 1 and 32K day 2 are still pretty good crowds, in fact pretty much in line with the first 2 days at the GABBA. India was 0/172 and had a lead of 218 at the end of day 2, it easily explains why there was no bloody atmosphere.

Perth is here to stay on the test calander no matter what rubbish you post or crap opinion you have.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Perth was rubbish because we got pantsed.

31K day 1 and 32K day 2 are still pretty good crowds, in fact pretty much in line with the first 2 days at the GABBA. India was 0/172 and had a lead of 218 at the end of day 2, it easily explains why there was no bloody atmosphere.

Perth is here to stay on the test calander no matter what rubbish you post or crap opinion you have.

The Gabba only holds 37k rofl and it was raining........great comparison lol.

Half a stadium vs a almost full one....

I agree it's going nowhere because of the TV deal for the EST states. But i still think Tassie is undeniably better.

 

[Coach_Required]

Don't agree with all of this but do agree we don't turn up. Tests should of stayed at the WACA and that should of been changed to 25k. It was a famous ground like Newlands in SA and now its lost to cricket.

As for Optus well it's just not the same for me, I loved the WACA. I understood the downfalls for the patrons but they could of been fixed. Optus is a big concrete jungle and for 6-8 hours it's not for me. As great a stadium as it is. It's a footy stadium and not a cricket stadium for me. many think much differently though.

As for the test in Perth they will argue that we are getting bigger crowds than ever so whats with the complaints?

I agree 100% with this post.

I ****ing hate cricket at Optus. I loved the WACA even on a blazing hot summers day. Was called the furnace for a reason and it was bloody awesome.

 

[Silver Tongue]

Sam Konstas.
He might burn as brightly as Peter Toohey (for those old enough to remember) but unless he tightens his technique he will burn out even faster.

His first Test innings must draw comparisons with David Hookes and his debut in the Centenary Test. Hookes, while a phenon at Shield level never transferred his results to Test level. Lack of footwork was his greatest downfall particularly against spin and seam away from Australia.

Sri Lanka will be an interesting watch.

Webster on the other hand looks to have a technique of getting forward or back as appropriate, and doesn't get caught on the crease. He might be very handy in the subcontinent with a solid technique and ability to bowl seam up and spin.

Exciting times.

 

[Coach_Required]

The Gabba only holds 37k rofl and it was raining........great comparison lol.

Half a stadium vs a almost full one....

I agree it's going nowhere because of the TV deal for the EST states. But i still think Tassie is undeniably better.

You still didnt reply to my main argument that the game was already over by day 2. No Aussie crowd would have atmosphere if we were getting belted the same way.

Also my point is 31k & 32K are still solid crowds and would create an atmosphere if the game was closer.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

You still didnt reply to my main argument that the game was already over by day 2. No Aussie crowd would have atmosphere if we were getting belted the same way.

Also my point is 31k & 32K are still solid crowds and would create an atmosphere if the game was closer.

that's because it doesn't matter if the game was over by day 2.

Day 1 the crowd was half the capacity.

The crowd wasn't good and the atmosphere was bad from the first ball. It didn't matter what India did after that. It was never good to become bad. It was only bad.

No other test, even during working week had that bad attendance. Adelaide was full and still in full work and school term.

just admit you lot don't show up.

 

[Coach_Required]

Sam Konstas.
He might burn as brightly as Peter Toohey (for those old enough to remember) but unless he tightens his technique he will burn out even faster.

His first Test innings must draw comparisons with David Hookes and his debut in the Centenary Test. Hookes, while a phenon at Shield level never transferred his results to Test level. Lack of footwork was his greatest downfall particularly against spin and seam away from Australia.

Sri Lanka will be an interesting watch.

Webster on the other hand looks to have a technique of getting forward or back as appropriate, and doesn't get caught on the crease. He might be very handy in the subcontinent with a solid technique and ability to bowl seam up and spin.

Exciting times.

Rubbish speculation. He is 19 years old, does that mean he stays in the side forever? No of course not. He will get dropped at some point just like the 100's of Aussie batsmen before him.

Also, you're comparing a 19 yo to a 31 yo cricketer who has been in the system a decade, so of course the mature player is going to have better technique FFS.

 

[Coach_Required]

that's because it doesn't matter if the game was over by day 2.

Day 1 the crowd was half the capacity.

The crowd wasn't good and the atmosphere was bad from the first ball. It didn't matter what India did after that.

No other test, even during working week had that bad attendance. Adelaide was full and still in full work and school term.

just admit you lot don't show up.

Scorchers got 41K the other day still a long way off capacity, atmosphere is built on the game not by the number.

Dave Warner loved it, even mentioned it. You're talking out of your backside.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Scorchers got 41K the other day still a long way off capacity, atmosphere is built on the game not by the number.

Dave Warner loved it, even mentioned it. You're talking out of your backside.

Thats great, i said the test match.........

I didnt say anything about the big bash...

 

[The Lobbster]

I’ve never understood why people get so hell bent on taking matches away from cities. Surely you should be advocating for more matches right?

 

[Coach_Required]

Thats great, i said the test match.........

I didnt say anything about the big bash...

ahh so your only talking favourable outcomes that back up your one-sided BS beliefs?

Got it.



31K is a good enough crowd to create atmosphere if the game is decent enough, especially at Optus. Youve never been so you just don't understand.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

ahh so your only talking favourable outcomes that back up your one-sided BS beliefs?

Got it.



31K is a good enough crowd to create atmosphere if the game is decent enough, especially at Optus. Youve never been so you just don't understand.

no i said you had a rubbish crowd to the test match, i didn't say anything about the big bash lol. Which is a completely separate thing.

your in the wrong thread man....

 

[Coach_Required]

no i said you had a rubbish crowd to the test match, i didn't say anything about the big bash lol. Which is a completely separate thing.

your in the wrong thread man....

Not at all this is a cricket thread is it not? We get decent crowds, could they be better absolutely. However, the way you're carrying on you'd think we got about 10k. My point still stands the atmosphere (which you alluded to in your prior post) was shit because the game was very onesided.

 

[grumbleguts]

Oh look an eastern stater coming from a place of privilege whingeing about the Perth crowds..nothing changes

Few points:

1. The Perth Crowds where up this year thats good and will be again for next year for the Ashes
2. You think taking away the test from Perth is going to increase the crowds for the future of WA cricket ? How is that going to work if you are not promoting the game ??
3. The Perth test is being played during the working period. We don't have the opportunity that you do of having the test played on a public holiday everyear for the last 30 odd years and continuing during the time when people who work and students have time off .......if you want the crowds to increase I guarantee if its played on Boxing Day it would be packed .....but we have not been given that opportunity like you privilege lot do and who just take it for granted year after year ...and then have the arrogance to have a go at other cities crowds...you guys have it pretty good show some respect
4. Honestly how does it affect you the size of the Perth crowd?....you own a TV ..the Perth test is great viewing for the eastern states public after work...the tv networks love it

Finally if you feel so bad about Perth crowds and think it should be stripped...why not come over for the weekend and increase the crowd size ?? Perth stadium is fantastic..Perth is a great city and the south west has a lot to offer

Most All of these excuses are invalid.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Not at all this is a cricket thread is it not? We get decent crowds, could they be better absolutely. However, the way you're carrying on you'd think we got about 10k. My point still stands the atmosphere (which you alluded to in your prior post) was shit because the game was very onesided.

no, you get shit test crowds. If the MCG had 50k to Boxing day id say that was a shit crowd too. but it didnt. It sold out.

The fact you are bringing up big bash just proves my point lol. I didn't suggest relocating the Perth scorchers to Tassia did i rofl.

Anyways it is what it is as too much money from the TV deal will change it, hopefully Perth can sell out the Ashes next year.

 

[grumbleguts]

Not at all this is a cricket thread is it not? We get decent crowds, could they be better absolutely. However, the way you're carrying on you'd think we got about 10k. My point still stands the atmosphere (which you alluded to in your prior post) was shit because the game was very onesided.

The match wasn't one sided for the entire 5 days. But the crowds were sh!t for the entire five days.

 

[Black Diamond]

That's the conclusion I came to looking at it from afar, it looks great for footy but not much chop for the jolly old cricket.

There is the tradition and nostalgia aspect. I was a late convert but having seen cricket at Burswood it is worth it.

Still feel a little tainted typing that...

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Warner is no brain surgeon, but Konstas is a snag short of a barbie if ever there was one. (Undisciplined) He's a long way from being Australia's opening batting answer and has a lot to learn, i was a fan until that 2nd innings. These two upcoming Tests against Sri Lanka can either make him or break him.

That’s a fairly large amount of hyperbole even for this board.