5th Test Border Gavaskar Trophy January 3-7 1000hrs @ the SCG

[PhatBoy]

You thought disunity and disharmony was bad before within the Indian Team.

Exactly.

The Gambhir Effect

 

[Around the Wicket]

The commitment of senior Indian players is also being questioned, especially around the lack of first class matches for some, and that players have to decide if they're fully committed or not

I wouldn’t say any of those other stars are overly committed to FC fixtures either to be fair, most of them play 1 or 2 games a year.

 

[big_e]

The commitment of senior Indian players is also being questioned, especially around the lack of first class matches for some, and that players have to decide if they're fully committed or not

I know he cops some flak around these parts but it's pretty rich to be questioning the commitment of a man who has represented his country more than 500 times.

 

[PhatBoy]

Kohli’s commitment to India itself could never come under question, it’s his commitment to the betterment of India no matter the cost to his own pride that has to come under question.

I think a player as good as he has been, who has done it with such a good mix of nerve, bloody mindedness, and purity of technique, should never just be cast aside even after the length of time over which he’s struggled - which is reaching foghorn levels of alarm by this stage in the test arena. It simply cannot be ignored anymore.

BUT.

I believe that a stint of a dozen domestic games grinding out runs and remembering over 30 hours in blazing heat of how to just straight out play to a plan, and re-training himself, he can probably rejuvenate his game to a level where he can contribute something.

They wank on almost every summer about that innings Tendulkar played in Sydney in 03-04. I’ve never actually looked at a wagon wheel of whether he did in fact not play a cover drive for his first 150 runs or not (I went to the match and saw some of the innings but it was on day 3 at the very end of it). But Kohli is a player in one day cricket as mentally strong - probably stronger than Tendulkar - and for much of his test career was stronger too. You would imagine that he can find a way to ‘self-deny’ these shots that keep bringing him unstuck, until they become his bread and butter again.

 

[sr36]

Kohli’s commitment to India itself could never come under question, it’s his commitment to the betterment of India no matter the cost to his own pride that has to come under question.

I think a player as good as he has been, who has done it with such a good mix of nerve, bloody mindedness, and purity of technique, should never just be cast aside even after the length of time over which he’s struggled - which is reaching foghorn levels of alarm by this stage in the test arena. It simply cannot be ignored anymore.

BUT.

I believe that a stint of a dozen domestic games grinding out runs and remembering over 30 hours in blazing heat of how to just straight out play to a plan, and re-training himself, he can probably rejuvenate his game to a level where he can contribute something.

They wank on almost every summer about that innings Tendulkar played in Sydney in 03-04. I’ve never actually looked at a wagon wheel of whether he did in fact not play a cover drive for his first 150 runs or not (I went to the match and saw some of the innings but it was on day 3 at the very end of it). But Kohli is a player in one day cricket as mentally strong - probably stronger than Tendulkar - and for much of his test career was stronger too. You would imagine that he can find a way to ‘self-deny’ these shots that keep bringing him unstuck, until they become his bread and butter again.

For me it wasn't about how many he wafted at. I think the issue is more that he doesn't hold his line but chases it when it moves. Rarely played and missed outside off, nicked it every time he played at one he shouldn't have.

I do think it's about too much short form. He should play some county as he'd probably get away with it in most Ranji Trophy conditions.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Kohli’s commitment to India itself could never come under question, it’s his commitment to the betterment of India no matter the cost to his own pride that has to come under question.

I think a player as good as he has been, who has done it with such a good mix of nerve, bloody mindedness, and purity of technique, should never just be cast aside even after the length of time over which he’s struggled - which is reaching foghorn levels of alarm by this stage in the test arena. It simply cannot be ignored anymore.

BUT.

I believe that a stint of a dozen domestic games grinding out runs and remembering over 30 hours in blazing heat of how to just straight out play to a plan, and re-training himself, he can probably rejuvenate his game to a level where he can contribute something.

They wank on almost every summer about that innings Tendulkar played in Sydney in 03-04. I’ve never actually looked at a wagon wheel of whether he did in fact not play a cover drive for his first 150 runs or not (I went to the match and saw some of the innings but it was on day 3 at the very end of it). But Kohli is a player in one day cricket as mentally strong - probably stronger than Tendulkar - and for much of his test career was stronger too. You would imagine that he can find a way to ‘self-deny’ these shots that keep bringing him unstuck, until they become his bread and butter again.

100%. I don't know whether King Kholi was a media creation or whether it was Virat and his ego himself that made it. What I do know is that it would have benefited India if he took a couple of years off the international circuit and played FCC for say NSW, VIC, SA etc in the Sheffield Shield and then go over to the UK and play County Cricket for say a Somerset, Surrey, Middlesex etc.

 

[sabso]

100%. I don't know whether King Kholi was a media creation or whether it was Virat and his ego himself that made it. What I do know is that it would have benefited India if he took a couple of years off the international circuit and played FCC for say NSW, VIC, SA etc in the Sheffield Shield and then go over to the UK and play County Cricket for say a Somerset, Surrey, Middlesex etc.

Counties are having overseas players bedding in (ham) - marnus is a Glamorgan player, Simon harmer is Essex, I hope handscomb and mulder stay at Leicestershire.

Dunno which county kohli would choose. Probably Surrey or notts.

 

[Gough]

Counties are having overseas players bedding in (ham) - marnus is a Glamorgan player, Simon harmer is Essex, I hope handscomb and mulder stay at Leicestershire.

Dunno which county kohli would choose. Probably Surrey or notts.

I read somewhere Kohli is in the process of moving to England full time.

 

[sabso]

I read somewhere Kohli is in the process of moving to England full time.

Maybe he wants to qualify for us. You think he’s trashing his legacy now, wait til he’s dropped for Dan Lawrence.

 

[troybe]

Counties are having overseas players bedding in (ham) - marnus is a Glamorgan player, Simon harmer is Essex, I hope handscomb and mulder stay at Leicestershire.

Dunno which county kohli would choose. Probably Surrey or notts.

Beau Webster just signed for Warwickshire for a 3 month stint

 

[cats_09]

Kohli’s commitment to India itself could never come under question, it’s his commitment to the betterment of India no matter the cost to his own pride that has to come under question.

I think a player as good as he has been, who has done it with such a good mix of nerve, bloody mindedness, and purity of technique, should never just be cast aside even after the length of time over which he’s struggled - which is reaching foghorn levels of alarm by this stage in the test arena. It simply cannot be ignored anymore.

BUT.

I believe that a stint of a dozen domestic games grinding out runs and remembering over 30 hours in blazing heat of how to just straight out play to a plan, and re-training himself, he can probably rejuvenate his game to a level where he can contribute something.

They wank on almost every summer about that innings Tendulkar played in Sydney in 03-04. I’ve never actually looked at a wagon wheel of whether he did in fact not play a cover drive for his first 150 runs or not (I went to the match and saw some of the innings but it was on day 3 at the very end of it). But Kohli is a player in one day cricket as mentally strong - probably stronger than Tendulkar - and for much of his test career was stronger too. You would imagine that he can find a way to ‘self-deny’ these shots that keep bringing him unstuck, until they become his bread and butter again.

Tendulkar's wagon wheel has been doing the rounds, so thankfully not too hard to find
Here's only his boundary hitting:


Full wagon wheel

 

[sabso]

Tendulkar's wagon wheel has been doing the rounds, so thankfully not too hard to find
Here's only his boundary hitting:
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Full wagon wheel

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Such a well constructed innings, puts me in mind of this gem

 

[Lunchtime]

Such a well constructed innings, puts me in mind of this gem

This is the innings where Taylor made 129. This was the innings that saved his career. After this 129, his final 39 innings of his career yielded 1590 runs @ 45.42.