Delisted Adrian Dodoro - Lodged a dispute with FairWork. Paid out. Gone. #putoutyourjackets

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Lore said:
Cap management is Georgia Harvey, who has, for some reason, got the rather boring title of "Recruiting and List Administrator".

She is however also now the AFLW Player Contract Manager and Head of VFLW (used for the first time today) so finally getting some recognition.

Here's her job description, in her own words:

www.essendonfc.com.au

Women of Essendon: Georgia Harvey

To celebrate International Women's Day, we're profiling some of the club's inspiring female staff.
www.essendonfc.com.au www.essendonfc.com.au
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Wouldn’t say she manages the cap… she’s an administrator, making sure the rules are followed, basically.

Cap management is list management and that’s committee driven. Mahoney, Dodoro and the coach. The CEO overseeing it but generally not having expertise.
 

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Hope most of the rumours of the players mentioned to ess are wrong as don't need plodders.

Yes we tried bowes but I'd be hoping dodo would be making plenty of calls to west coast, gws about taking on contracts to get in some high picks. Plenty of bad contracts and picks at both those clubs for where they are currently at.

Unfortunately not sure dodo has great relationships, so unless a players has nominated ess and is forcing clubs to deal with us than doubt any deals will happen. I'd be surprised if clubs have ess as preferred club to find mutually beneficial deals. Probably just call the Hawks first.
 
Mikevk123 said:
A bigger problem is how clubs are unwilling to deal with us unless they are forced to. He’s hard to deal with and makes it harder for our club maximise potential deals.
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Aside from McCartney who's a child - yet still managed to do a deal - what other clubs are unwilling to deal with Essendon?

We've done deals with half the AFL in the last 3 or 4 seasons.

It's a meme that's five years out of date.
 
Zach Package said:
Was just thinking last night whether the function that he fills is shrinking ever smaller, if not completely obsolete.

In my eyes the 'recruitment' team probably has 3 key pillars, talent ID and scouting, cap management and essentially forensic accounting and player contracts and trading.

RFK is Talent ID and I reckon a pretty darn good one at that
Cap management doesn't seem to be it's own portfolio but certainly should be
Contracts and trading seems to be the Dodoro eminent domain but if you move contracts into what you could refer to as the 'money management' role and trading is something he's co-opping with the footy boss anyway then doesn't it make far more sense to have RFK, and essentially a data genius and their teams reporting into Mahoney or whoever the footy boss is rather than Dodoro or anyone in the GM role as it currently is?

Isn't that where the clear competitive advantage is?
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Dodoro seems to be the one who deals with player managers and such still, pretty sure during the Amazon doco on player managers that was who they spoke to when they spoke to Essendon.
 
owen87 said:
Dodoro seems to be the one who deals with player managers and such still, pretty sure during the Amazon doco on player managers that was who they spoke to when they spoke to Essendon.
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player managers and other list managers, so all the negotiating.
 
Lore said:
Cap management is Georgia Harvey, who has, for some reason, got the rather boring title of "Recruiting and List Administrator".

She is however also now the AFLW Player Contract Manager and Head of VFLW (used for the first time today) so finally getting some recognition.

Here's her job description, in her own words:

www.essendonfc.com.au

Women of Essendon: Georgia Harvey

To celebrate International Women's Day, we're profiling some of the club's inspiring female staff.
www.essendonfc.com.au www.essendonfc.com.au
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From the sounds of that she’s stretched too thin and under resourced.

She needs a team underneath her if she’s going to be handling all of those things. I’m essentially envisioning the war room scene from moneyball
 

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yodellinhank said:
There's a kindness in the eyes of the one on the left. Over on the right psycopathy and premierships.
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It's amazing the difference a broken nose makes
 
If there isn't a massive cleanout in this department after this draft I will completely lose hope that Essendon will ever get better. We'll simply see Scott sacked in a few years and the process will start again. Rinse and repeat every few years.

He's been here 24 years and for the last 18 of them we haven't even come close to winning a final. How does that happen?
We've always had gaping holes in the list during that time and continue to have them now. We've had no stars like pretty much all other good teams have had. Yes the saga happened but people forget he was around for 14 years before that.

How is he even defended? His stats are really quite atrocious when compared against the better teams during that time.
 
Every club doing deals left right and centre, meanwhile @ Essendon
the legend of sleepy hollow flirting GIF
 
Here_we_come said:
If there isn't a massive cleanout in this department after this draft I will completely lose hope that Essendon will ever get better. We'll simply see Scott sacked in a few years and the process will start again. Rinse and repeat every few years.

He's been here 24 years and for the last 18 of them we haven't even come close to winning a final. How does that happen?
We've always had gaping holes in the list during that time and continue to have them now. We've had no stars like pretty much all other good teams have had. Yes the saga happened but people forget he was around for 14 years before that.

How is he even defended? His stats are really quite atrocious when compared against the better teams during that time.
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He needs more time, at least 20 more years, please understand.
 
I would definitely look at SOS. Not a perfect record of nailing picks but still decent in my opinion and has also shown he knows how to put a balanced list together.

Has some misses but generally does well with early picks as well. 2015 draft is an example with Weitering/Curnow/Mackay which will set up Carlton for a decade or more.
 
Here_we_come said:
I would definitely look at SOS. Not a perfect record of nailing picks but still decent in my opinion and has also shown he knows how to put a balanced list together.

Has some misses but generally does well with early picks as well. 2015 draft is an example with Weitering/Curnow/Mackay which will set up Carlton for a decade or more.
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We already have scouts and a national recruitment manager, so you'd need to be looking more at his trade and retention record and ability to build lists of compatible players that suit the needs of the coach and the game plan without overpaying.
 
MarkJohnson#1 said:
People wanting Dodoro sacked, who would you look to for the list management role? I think a lot of credit should go to SOS for how Carlton have resurrected themselves personally. He'd have to be in the mix if he was interested.
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Here_we_come said:
I would definitely look at SOS. Not a perfect record of nailing picks but still decent in my opinion and has also shown he knows how to put a balanced list together.

Has some misses but generally does well with early picks as well. 2015 draft is an example with Weitering/Curnow/Mackay which will set up Carlton for a decade or more.
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Has a lot of misses
Pass for me. Wasn't all that great at GWS either.

Taylor from Melbourne top of my list
Cameron from Brisbane
Walls at Fremantle has been pretty good of late as their recruiter and now list manager.
I'd also look at RFK. Done his time and I think the recruiting has been pretty good with what we've had to work with.
 

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