Delisted Adrian Dodoro - On leave Aug ‘24. Parted ways Nov ‘24. Lodged a dispute with FairWork. Paid out. Gone. #putoutyourjackets

[yodellinhank]

Brad tried really hard to talk up the AFL's work with equalisation the other night. His brother's club then does this.

There's always an evil twin.

 

[Lore]

There's always an evil twin.

Which is which?

 

[faible]

Which is which?

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Easy

Brad (Good) < > Chris (Evil)

 

[yodellinhank]

Which is which?

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There's a kindness in the eyes of the one on the left. Over on the right psycopathy and premierships.

 

[Lore]

There's a kindness in the eyes of the one on the left. Over on the right psycopathy and premierships.

It's amazing the difference a broken nose makes

 

[Here_we_come]

If there isn't a massive cleanout in this department after this draft I will completely lose hope that Essendon will ever get better. We'll simply see Scott sacked in a few years and the process will start again. Rinse and repeat every few years.

He's been here 24 years and for the last 18 of them we haven't even come close to winning a final. How does that happen?
We've always had gaping holes in the list during that time and continue to have them now. We've had no stars like pretty much all other good teams have had. Yes the saga happened but people forget he was around for 14 years before that.

How is he even defended? His stats are really quite atrocious when compared against the better teams during that time.

 

[windyhill]

Every club doing deals left right and centre, meanwhile @ Essendon

 

[DERO]

Every club doing deals left right and centre, meanwhile @ Essendon

even north landed two players today!

 

[Westlo]

If there isn't a massive cleanout in this department after this draft I will completely lose hope that Essendon will ever get better. We'll simply see Scott sacked in a few years and the process will start again. Rinse and repeat every few years.

He's been here 24 years and for the last 18 of them we haven't even come close to winning a final. How does that happen?
We've always had gaping holes in the list during that time and continue to have them now. We've had no stars like pretty much all other good teams have had. Yes the saga happened but people forget he was around for 14 years before that.

How is he even defended? His stats are really quite atrocious when compared against the better teams during that time.

He needs more time, at least 20 more years, please understand.

 

[Dave]

Every club doing deals left right and centre, meanwhile @ Essendon

Hard to deal with????? Shocked I tells ya, shocked!!!!

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

People wanting Dodoro sacked, who would you look to for the list management role? I think a lot of credit should go to SOS for how Carlton have resurrected themselves personally. He'd have to be in the mix if he was interested.

 

[Here_we_come]

I would definitely look at SOS. Not a perfect record of nailing picks but still decent in my opinion and has also shown he knows how to put a balanced list together.

Has some misses but generally does well with early picks as well. 2015 draft is an example with Weitering/Curnow/Mackay which will set up Carlton for a decade or more.

 

[Lore]

I would definitely look at SOS. Not a perfect record of nailing picks but still decent in my opinion and has also shown he knows how to put a balanced list together.

Has some misses but generally does well with early picks as well. 2015 draft is an example with Weitering/Curnow/Mackay which will set up Carlton for a decade or more.

We already have scouts and a national recruitment manager, so you'd need to be looking more at his trade and retention record and ability to build lists of compatible players that suit the needs of the coach and the game plan without overpaying.

 

[citizen-erased]

People wanting Dodoro sacked, who would you look to for the list management role? I think a lot of credit should go to SOS for how Carlton have resurrected themselves personally. He'd have to be in the mix if he was interested.

I would definitely look at SOS. Not a perfect record of nailing picks but still decent in my opinion and has also shown he knows how to put a balanced list together.

Has some misses but generally does well with early picks as well. 2015 draft is an example with Weitering/Curnow/Mackay which will set up Carlton for a decade or more.

Has a lot of misses
Pass for me. Wasn't all that great at GWS either.

Taylor from Melbourne top of my list
Cameron from Brisbane
Walls at Fremantle has been pretty good of late as their recruiter and now list manager.
I'd also look at RFK. Done his time and I think the recruiting has been pretty good with what we've had to work with.

 

[citizen-erased]

Every club doing deals left right and centre, meanwhile @ Essendon

just missed a ****ing doozy
Cats get 25 for 38, 48 & 55 + F2 + F4
Tell me 22 isn't worth that when it's gonna get eaten up by Davey.

 

[Here_we_come]

As I said, not a perfect record but would still be an upgrade. Lore raises a good point though, any decision to replace would need to be based heavily around the trading record as well. I can't remember how SOS performed in this area, although it's hard to think how he could be worse that Dodoro - who has only ever traded in 1 player who played more than 100 games for us: McPhee. Stringer and Shiel will probably get there, but still, it's an appalling record given the time he's been at the club.

If someone better than SOS was available I'd jump at them as well.

 

[Happyskeret]

Sorry if it hasn’t been spelt out already but was Dodo an apprentice under Noel Judkin’s or not? Or did he just turn up one day from under a garbage pile?

 

[Yoda_]

I actually don't think anyone is denying he has done an ok job, not a shit job not a stellar job but an ok job over his 20 years. A few things have gone against him, namely the saga that took the pillars right from under him in his prime hitting zone (some argue that 12 - 15 list was his best)/


In the end it has been 20 years, it is time for a change, not because of the results as discussed above, but namely those fresh ideas. etc. Whilst he is at the club, his name will be attached to any conversation about us bringing then to the club so best for both Adrian and the club to move on. I just hope we have enough balls to make this happen and for him not to return like Sheedy has with a red carpet.

 

[Here_we_come]

On a separate note, it seems to be assumed without question across a lot of threads that the reason we are not doing many trades this year is due to us being a "basketcase" and no-one in their right mind would want to come to us.

While that may be part of the reason, last year we only did a single trade when some people had us as premiership contenders. So it's not like this year is an outlier

 

[eth-dog]

On a separate note, it seems to be assumed without question across a lot of threads that the reason we are not doing many trades this year is due to us being a "basketcase" and no-one in their right mind would want to come to us.

While that may be part of the reason, last year we only did a single trade when some people had us as premiership contenders. So it's not like this year is an outlier

Last year was a remarkably quiet trade period.

There were only 13 trades with players involved last year, and 5 free agents (not including DFA). 5 of the trades were part of the typical ruck merry go round. Compare that to 2020 where there were 25 player trades and 7 FA's, in 2019 there were 25 trades with players involved, 2018 there were 33 trades with a player involved.

I wouldn't read anything into what happened last year.

EDIT: The last trade period to have fewer player trades was back in 2008. It was just a bad year.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Dodoro coming into his own in the last few days of trade week…

 

[Gabe251]

gotta go. Had his time.

 

[Doss]

Dodoro coming into his own in the last few days of trade week…

It was hardly world beating. It was just fine.

And certainly not even in the remote ballpark of being good enough to offset all his negative attributes.

 

[Atavistic]

Would have had to have landed Hopper or Dunkley, Bowes and pick 7 and then wear as many jackets as humanly possible on the last day of trade period to sway me.

 

[Mikevk123]

Spending pick 1 and 6 on flankers should of got him sacked