Delisted Adrian Dodoro - On leave Aug ‘24. Parted ways Nov ‘24. Lodged a dispute with FairWork. Paid out. Gone. #putoutyourjackets

[Kong]

How does ours differ to say Collingwood?

Good question. You don't hear about Eddie (and whoever replaced him) being held hostage by financial backers, though.

I even recall them exploring things like in house clothing production for club merch, that make me think they're not just in the black because of members and rich shadowy figures

 

[Here_we_come]

I really don't care if Dodo is a good bloke or if he loves the club. Those things are irrelevant. I would much rather someone who is not nice and who doesn't love the club if that person could actually do their job well and help set us up for success.

I agree anger should be directed at the club, they are a complete basket case. However, I do understand the frustration directed at Dodo. I believe that if he really cared about the club, he would have stepped aside long ago given the objectively bad record and lingering questions about his performance. He's a multimillionaire with all of his property investing, so it's not like he needed the money.

 

[joey_jo_jo]

I really don't care if Dodo is a good bloke or if he loves the club. Those things are irrelevant. I would much rather someone who is not nice and who doesn't love the club if that person could actually do their job well and help set us up for success.

I agree anger should be directed at the club, they are a complete basket case. However, I do understand the frustration directed at Dodo. I believe that if he really cared about the club, he would have stepped aside long ago given the objectively bad record and lingering questions about his performance. He's a multimillionaire with all of his property investing, so it's not like he needed the money.

Agreed, same with sheedy. I don't care what he did in past and that he loves the club, because at some point in the early 00s he started to think he was bigger than the club and prioritised his self interests.
Honestly feel like he put the wheels in motion of our demise with his actions at the tail end of his career, and the club continues to put him and his methods on a pedestal instead of accepting we need to move on.

 

[Groundhog Day]

Only so fans don't boo him?

I’ve heard he knocked the lap of honour back for tonight and is waiting for the Grand Final instead.

 

[Old Campaigner]

It's the right move and as much as it's good that he's gone I think it's worth being respectful about it

 

[brutus76]

HOW DO WE WIN TRADE WEEK 2024?

 

[windyhill]

Since when did personal leave equate to gone ?

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

 

[Foxx]

Sad day. He's built good sides over his tenure. Only for them to be routinely mismanaged by our coaches.

Fact: Almost every player he's drafted who's left, has played better elsewhere..

 

[fanuch]

I tend to agree - think there’s a huge chance noone currently on our list will be there the next time we win a final

I remember saying no one older than Parish would be there.

 

[Here_we_come]

Sad day. He's built good sides over his tenure. Only for them to be routinely mismanaged by our coaches.

Fact: Almost every player he's drafted who's left, has played better elsewhere..

I’m really not sure if this is a pisstake.

 

[Mootsy]

i'll kinda miss him, i mean, he seamed like a genuinely nice, enthusiastic bloke that believed in his players.
he provided a lot of joy, jackets, some of the best names as well, pears, gumby, dempsey, winderlich, fantasia etc...
i blame our coaches and development, its team selection that decided not to play massimo for example.
is he in charge of our strength, fitness and development or positioning players on the ground. Culture etc.
who am i going to refer to as "jackets" now?!

 

[Foxx]

I’m really not sure if this is a pisstake.

No it's not.

He's been the scapegoat for our mismanagement of players and our losing culture.

Sure he's had holes in squads he's built. But almost all of them were better than how they performed on field.

Like I said almost every player who left, was a better player elsewhere.

So what does that say about our development and player management?

And that's just the ones that have left. What about the ones that stayed? Fair to say they would have performed better elsewhere too.

 

[mike ross]

One thing I’d say - anybody who thinks the departure of Sheedy and Dodoro means some magical uptick in fortunes better think again.

Plenty more to be fixed beyond those two.

Dont worry we know. Just don't be a party pooper ok.

 

[Here_we_come]

No it's not.

He's been the scapegoat for our mismanagement of players and our losing culture.

Sure he's had holes in squads he's built. But almost all of them were better than how they performed on field.

Like I said almost every player who left, was a better player elsewhere.

So what does that say about our development and player management?

And that's just the ones that have left. What about the ones that stayed? Fair to say they would have performed better elsewhere too.

He’s been the cause of our losing culture, not the scapegoat.

Baring Houli who never really got a shot at essendon, the players who left and went on to win AAs were already good before they left. Most of them have not improved since leaving either: Gumby, monfries, fantasia, Carlisle, Francis, colyer, melksham, etc. they were all the same or worse for their new clubs. Players like Saad, Ryder, Daniher, were already good before they left.

Your argument also completely ignores the players who have come to us and improved! Players like Ben McKay, Caldwell improved, and then wright, smith, etc went on to win B&Fs with us.

 

[Old Campaigner]

Your argument also completely ignores the players who have come to us and improved! Players like Ben McKay, Caldwell improved, and then wright, smith, etc went on to win B&Fs with us.

That may simply mean mediocre players elsewhere come to Essendon and look like superstars compared to the existing list

 

[Foxx]

He’s been the cause of our losing culture, not the scapegoat.

Baring Houli who never really got a shot at essendon, the players who left and went on to win AAs were already good before they left. Most of them have not improved since leaving either: Gumby, monfries, fantasia, Carlisle, Francis, colyer, melksham, etc. they were all the same or worse for their new clubs. Players like Saad, Ryder, Daniher, were already good before they left.

Your argument also completely ignores the players who have come to us and improved! Players like Ben McKay, Caldwell improved, and then wright, smith, etc went on to win B&Fs with us.

Almost all of those players you mentioned were/have been better after they left.
A couple have improved when coming to us, but most stalled.

I'd also like someone to show me a list he created that was no good.

 

[Here_we_come]

That may simply mean mediocre players elsewhere come to Essendon and look like superstars compared to the existing list

Potentially. But if that were true, it would also be another indication of very bad recruiting by essendon.

 

[Here_we_come]

Almost all of those players you mentioned were/have been better after they left.

I'd also like someone to show me a list he created that was no good.

Lol, what? Can you explain how those players set the world on fire after they left? I’m genuinely confused.

 

[Foxx]

Lol, what? Can you explain how those players set the world on fire after they left? I’m genuinely confused.

Ryder AA, Hibberd AA, Houli, Saad, D'Ambrosio, Daniher, Melksham, Ted Richards all better after leaving. Pretty sure I've missed several others.

 

[Here_we_come]

Ryder AA, Hibberd AA, Houli, Saad, D'Ambrosio, Daniher, Melksham, Ted Richards all better after leaving. Pretty sure I've missed several others.

Ryder, hibberd, saad, and Daniher were already guns before they left. That’s why so many supporters were gutted when they left. Houli, D’ambrosio, and Richard’s improved - although d’ambrosio already showed a lot of signs before he left. Melksham has always only been an average player.

You’ve also ignored the players who improved since arriving at essendon.

 

[Foxx]

Ryder, hibberd, saad, and Daniher were already guns before they left. That’s why so many supporters were gutted when they left. Houli, D’ambrosio, and Richard’s improved - although d’ambrosio already showed a lot of signs before he left. Melksham has always only been an average player.

You’ve also ignored the players who improved since arriving at essendon.

I'd only need a couple of fingers to count those who improved with us.

 

[Here_we_come]

I'd only need a couple of fingers to count those who improved with us.

You’d only need a couple to count the players who improved after leaving as well.

Also, if our development is really so bad, why do players like Z Merrett become champions when players like his very own brother and others can’t even make it? Did we just invest more resources into the development of Zach?? Is our development just selectively bad?

 

[Foxx]

You’d only need a couple to count the players who improved after leaving as well.

Also, if our development is really so bad, why do players like Z Merrett become champions when players like his very own brother and others can’t even make it? Did we just invest more resources into the development of Zach?? Is our development just selectively bad?

Merrett is a natural. He'd be a champion no matter what.

 

[Here_we_come]

Merrett is a natural. He'd be a champion no matter what.

Lol, so basically Z Merrett is a good recruiting decision and is nothing to do with development. Thanks for making my argument for me.