Delisted Adrian Dodoro - Lodged a dispute with FairWork. Paid out. Gone. #putoutyourjackets

[Longy413]

I don't recall which of that group was the actual uncontracted player

In the end we sent Delaney, Kickett, Ridley and Williams to Freo.

We got the comp pick and pick 4.

The official paperwork said Ridley for the comp pick (Lloyd) and Delaney for pick 4 in the ND (Lucas).

As well as Kickett for pick 39. We drafted Steven Carter with that pick, he didn't play a game.

 

[boms]

Essendon List Manager discusses 2007 draft

Monday, 29 October 2007
Essendon List manager, Adrian Dodoro, is about to head into the most important month of his year with the 2007 NAB national draft being held on November 24.

Despite having the hopes of all Bomber supporters resting on his shoulders, he took time out from his busy schedule to talk exclusively to Bomber TV about the past few drafts and what Bomber fans can expect next month.

"We will pick the best player available. We could do with a great ruckman, a great midfielder and a great forward but every club can," Dodoro said.

"People say we need midfielders but they tend to forget that last year we drafted a lot of midfielders like Jetta, Davey, Reimers and Houli."

Essendon has some good early picks in 2007 with pick 6 and 23 and have already used pick 39 on Darcy Daniher. The Bombers also have pick 55.

Discussing the club's early picks Dodoro said Essendon has done plenty of background work on the country's best young players and would continue to check and double check every detail right up until draft day.

"We are confident of getting a top player. We will pick up young players and we think this will be a good draft for us," he said.

Ill trust his words that we are going for the best available. With that i cant see us getting Myers unless they rate him very very highly. McEvoy is a chance i hear that the hawthorn recuirting manger has him 4th on his list? They will most likely have a list of like 5 players for each pick and whenever that players gets pick they will cross them out and go for the player after him.

 

[SM10]

Ill trust his words that we are going for the best available. With that i cant see us getting Myers unless they rate him very very highly. McEvoy is a chance i hear that the hawthorn recuirting manger has him 4th on his list? They will most likely have a list of like 5 players for each pick and whenever that players gets pick they will cross them out and go for the player after him.

Meaning he thinks he will go 4th overall?

 

[boms]

Meaning he thinks he will go 4th overall?

He thinks he is the 4th best overall talent in this draft. he had -

1. Kreuzer
2. Cotchin
3. Morton
4. McEvoy
5. Myers

 

[SM10]

He thinks he is the 4th best overall talent in this draft. he had -

1. Kreuzer
2. Cotchin
3. Morton
4. McEvoy
5. Myers

Ok thanks mate, I certainly hope we don't take him though..

 

[boms]

Ok thanks mate, I certainly hope we don't take him though..

I can see the doggies taking him the pick before us anyways. Plus we dont need a forward/ruck in our future or present. Midfielder/Backman is the need

 

[The_Young_Gun]

What we need is a good hard working Midfielder. No doubt that our first pick will be used for a centreman.

Maybe our 2nd or 4th pick could be used for a ruckman or KPP.

Essendons Priorities:
1. Good Midfielder.
2. Good tap Ruckman.
3. Defender / Utility player. (eg. Mark Bolton)
4. Foward.

All we need is a Key Midfielder and a Backup Ruckman.

We only have Laycock and Hille at the moment so no surprises if we pick up a ruckman by round 4.

 

[Jono B]

What we need is a good hard working Midfielder. No doubt that our first pick will be used for a centreman.

Maybe our 2nd or 4th pick could be used for a ruckman or KPP.

Essendons Priorities:
1. Good Midfielder.
2. Good tap Ruckman.
3. Defender / Utility player. (eg. Mark Bolton)
4. Foward.

All we need is a Key Midfielder and a Backup Ruckman.

We only have Laycock and Hille at the moment so no surprises if we pick up a ruckman by round 4.

Disagree with those priorities.
1. FB
2. Inside mid
3. Outside mid
4. Back-up ruck/CHB

 

[boms]

Imo -

1. Full-Back (But Knights seems pretty confident with Johns and Ryder)
2. Midfielder (Inside midfielder, i think Hocking will become a very good one but someone like Masten or Ebert would help, Also Palmer.)
3. Back Up Ruckman (Should take one with pick 55 and someone like Barry Brooks with our PSD Pick)


That is all. Neagle at Full Forward and Scott Gumbleton at CHF keep it like that and dont stuff that mixture up by drafting a player like McEvoy

 

[whirl]

Please not Barry Brooks.

 

[Hislop200]

#6. Ebert
#23. Bellchambers
#39. Daniher
#55. Feiber
PSD #5. Lammie
If we could nail something like this we would have everything we could want.

 

[SM10]

#6. Ebert
#23. Bellchambers
#39. Daniher
#55. Feiber
PSD #5. Lammie
If we could nail something like this we would have everything we could want.

Who is Lammie

 

[Schmick]

If the draft turned out something like this i'd be over the moon.
6. Myers - Skillfull, Good pace, Good vision, Strong tackler, get lots of the ball and can win his own ball, desperately need someone like this in the midfield.

23. Maric - Specialist FP; Great pace, highly skilled, good pressure, Crumbs the packs, and great kick on goal. We've been lacking something like this in the forward line, Jetta is probably the closest thing we've got to him, but i'd rather seem him used up the ground, playing HF/Mid. Would complete our forward line.

39. Daniher - Locked in, looked solid when i saw him in the backline. Didn't do anything special, but didn't do anything wrong, used the ball ok.

55. Putt/Simpson - Project ruckman with potential to add to the low ruck stocks.

PSD: Pfeiffer - Strong, quick, outstanding leap, great skills and great undurance. Would be great to use in midfield as an inside midfielder, or we could just shove him in the back pocket if things don't work out or we don't need him there. Would love to pick him up.

 

[boms]

6 - David Myers/Brad Ebert/Rhys Palmer/Chris Masten/Ben McEvoy - Dont care ill be happy with any.

23 - Scott Selwood if he slips if not then Patrick Dangerfield or Paddy McGinnity

39 - Darcy Dainher

55 - Dean Putt. Dawson Simpson if he slips

PSD Pick - Dunn.

 

[The Donners]

Generally speaking, assistant coaches, head coaches and football operations managers are ex-AFL players, why is it then that recruitment managers (i.e. Adrian Dodoro) are not?

It is quite possibly the second most important role at a football club behind the head coach and can determine onfield success!

 

[TheDon35]

Dogs would be mad not to take McEvoy if he was still there so we will be getting a midfielder with pick 6. I haven't seen enough of this years talent to have a strong opinion as to who would be best - Masten / Ebert. Sounds like either would be really good gets though.

 

[ant555]

Generally speaking, assistant coaches, head coaches and football operations managers are ex-AFL players, why is it then that recruitment managers (i.e. Adrian Dodoro) are not?

It is quite possibly the second most important role at a football club behind the head coach and can determine onfield success!

Becasue most AFL players have not had years of experience looking at young blokes play or honing their skills as far as judging players go. You generally have to build up a dossier over 5 or 6 years to get a gig as a part time recruiter now days. There is no money in it to begin with so it is a bit of a labour of love which is not that appealing for one who has just retired from playing and would have been on $100k to $300k a year.
You will find that most players who have played the game at a high level dont want to get involved with junior coaching or talent identification straight away. A good number of recruiters have a background in junior coaching (U/16 or U18) at suburban level.

 

[Merv]

Dogs would be mad not to take McEvoy if he was still there so we will be getting a midfielder with pick 6. I haven't seen enough of this years talent to have a strong opinion as to who would be best - Masten / Ebert. Sounds like either would be really good gets though.

That is far from certain and i doubt they will take him but time will tell.

Either way apart from pick 1, not much is guaranteed in this draft

 

[boms]

That is far from certain and i doubt they will take him but time will tell.

Either way apart from pick 1, not much is guaranteed in this draft

Well no not really. Pick 1 will ofcourse be Kreuzer

pick 2 is out of Cale Morton and Trent Cocthin and pick 5 the dogs will take a KPP Forward. And thats pretty much it

 

[The Donners]

Becasue most AFL players have not had years of experience looking at young blokes play or honing their skills as far as judging players go. You generally have to build up a dossier over 5 or 6 years to get a gig as a part time recruiter now days. There is no money in it to begin with so it is a bit of a labour of love which is not that appealing for one who has just retired from playing and would have been on $100k to $300k a year.
You will find that most players who have played the game at a high level dont want to get involved with junior coaching or talent identification straight away. A good number of recruiters have a background in junior coaching (U/16 or U18) at suburban level.

Thanks Ant, makes more sense. However, I would've thought that u/18 coaches wouldn't be on a tremendous amount of cash and to my knowledge most of the u/18 coaches are ex-AFL.

 

[Merv]

Either way apart from pick 1, not much is guaranteed in this draft

Well no not really. Pick 1 will ofcourse be Kreuzer

And that's exactly what i was saying

apart from pick 1 (Kruezer) the rest is up in the air

 

[DannyJames13]

Becasue most AFL players have not had years of experience looking at young blokes play or honing their skills as far as judging players go. You generally have to build up a dossier over 5 or 6 years to get a gig as a part time recruiter now days. <b>There is no money in it to begin with so it is a bit of a labour of love which is not that appealing for one who has just retired from playing and would have been on $100k to $300k a year.</b>
You will find that most players who have played the game at a high level dont want to get involved with junior coaching or talent identification straight away. A good number of recruiters have a background in junior coaching (U/16 or U18) at suburban level.

This has to, and from what i here is, change. Drafting should be paramount over the next 10 years. With the way our draft system works, focus here is the best chance at grabbing an advantage over other clubs.

I remember up here the stories that Riewoldt was told by a few clubs to avoid the draft and they would pick him up. This sought of manipulation was going on when recruiters were working for "a bit of a labour of love".

Now a side question to this, why are we not getting players from Ireland, like collingwood and carlton. This worries me. Are we focusing on running a pleasant business rather than Australian Rules Football?

 

[OB1]

Anyone who saw Davies play as an U18 would agree he was a super midfielder at his age. Most were expecting him to go 2nd round, but then Ted Richards was touted as a 1st rounder so they just got swapped. Sheeds never did Davies any favours - played sparodically and never able to get a decent gig in the magoos. Was not developed.

Interesting. I've never read this type of perspective before. I thought (& correct me if I'm wrong) that Davies wasn't even playing TAC footy therefore not even playing with the best kids. I thought his selection was a complete shock & weren't we investigated because of it?

 

[ant555]

Thanks Ant, makes more sense. However, I would've thought that u/18 coaches wouldn't be on a tremendous amount of cash and to my knowledge most of the u/18 coaches are ex-AFL.

You are right in saying the TAC Cup under 18 coach's are mainly ex AFL and not on a lot of cash but they use that like an aprentership. It generally gets them into assistant coaching roles.
I was talking more about local footy when i mentioned U/16 and U/18 footy.

 

[ant555]

This has to, and from what i here is, change. Drafting should be paramount over the next 10 years. With the way our draft system works, focus here is the best chance at grabbing an advantage over other clubs.

I remember up here the stories that Riewoldt was told by a few clubs to avoid the draft and they would pick him up. This sought of manipulation was going on when recruiters were working for "a bit of a labour of love".

I did not say all recruiters where in it as a labour of love. Full time recruiters get paid and the part time guys get minimum expences and travel paid.
What i said was to get into recruiting initially it is a labour of love.

Now a side question to this, why are we not getting players from Ireland, like collingwood and carlton. This worries me. Are we focusing on running a pleasant business rather than Australian Rules Football?

Im not worried about Ireland at all. The thing you have to remember is the depth is not there. Sure there are going to be 2 or 3 guys each year who may be good but they are the cream of the Irish players.
I would sooner be spending the money on developing and identification of players we have in our own system.
People seem to think a Marty Clarke will pop up every year. What they forget was Calrke was considered a once in a generation player in Irish footy. There wont be Marty Clarke's coming from Ireland every year.