And if Carlton win?Giants need to win this. Blues fans have the arrogance of B2B premiers having won nothing.
They badly need humbling.
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And if Carlton win?Giants need to win this. Blues fans have the arrogance of B2B premiers having won nothing.
They badly need humbling.
Giants to win. Blues are pretenders.
And if Carlton win?
Giants need to win this. Blues fans have the arrogance of B2B premiers having won nothing.
They badly need humbling.
Blues have two of the best key forwards, two of the best mids, and one of the best key backs. Playing at home… not sure why Blues fans are not backing them in.
The concern is not enough run. Losing Saad is big in that regard, and lacking Cerra further amplifies that. Our team is really unbalanced right now, despite these key players.Blues have two of the best key forwards, two of the best mids, and one of the best key backs. Playing at home… not sure why Blues fans are not backing them in.
Probably the injury list is the number one reason whyBlues have two of the best key forwards, two of the best mids, and one of the best key backs. Playing at home… not sure why Blues fans are not backing them in.
He is, but he didn't play in the corresponding fixture last year which the Giants won comfortably.Taylor is a big out.
Because the only way we might win with our current outs is turning it into an all out dour slog. Playing at Marvel under the roof doesn't allow for that as it's far too easy to move the ball with the quick deck.Blues have two of the best key forwards, two of the best mids, and one of the best key backs. Playing at home… not sure why Blues fans are not backing them in.
Blues have two of the best key forwards, two of the best mids, and one of the best key backs. Playing at home… not sure why Blues fans are not backing them in.
It's pointless being this defeatist - for a home game especially. There is no Carlton underdog narrative. The odds are even and if Carlton lose it's because their selected 23 don't perform.As with any team in competition - its not all about talent but players knowing their roles very well within a system and we have 10 of them out.
Ah well the odds are even that makes it all okayThe odds are even
Yeah that's absolutely fair.It's more not confident given the outs.
Anything can happen but not many are nailing the colours of a confident tip to the mast.
Cripps and Walsh delivering it to Curnow and McKay, minus Taylor. The obituaries can hold on a minute.Ah well the odds are even that makes it all okay
What obituaries? Firstly, Taylor and Coniglio are massive outs for the Giants - no one is saying otherwise. Ward played VFL on the weekend so I expect him to play.Cripps and Walsh delivering it to Curnow and McKay, minus Taylor. The obituaries can hold on a minute.
I don't doubt the effect that an injury accumulation can have even if it involves role players or depth.What obituaries? Firstly, Taylor and Coniglio are massive outs for the Giants - no one is saying otherwise. Ward played VFL on the weekend so I expect him to play.
But on your points about Carlton you have fallen into the trap that a lot of people do when they discuss the injuries of a team they don't support. And that is whether you rate the player or not is insignificant - it is all about where they sit in the pecking order within the team they play for. Saad, McGovern, Docherty and Cerra are all good players and I don't think many would disagree. Opposition fans may not think much of Motlop or Martin but they are our best small and mid-sized forward respectively. So that is why they are significant.
And then it becomes about context. Gov being out would not be as bad if we had Marchbank available but he is also out. So then we will likely have to use Young who would probably be the 5th ranked tall defender on our list. You look at Martin out and think well who can replace that - maybe Cuningham or Silvagni? No because they are out also. Look at Motlop and that out would not be as bad if we had Fogarty available but he is also out.
Looking at injuries in isolation is never going to give you the full sense of their impact on the team. These injuries are not an excuse for anything but they definitely make it harder to compete against the best teams which we come up against over the next 5 weeks.
No doubt Carlton can still put up a very strong performance but the timing of all these absences are just horrible. If you want to be a contender at the end of the year we know top 4 is pretty much a must. We play five teams in a row that are going to be top-4 contenders - it is obviously still very early in the season but all of these games could be seen as "8-point games" for the Blues.Weaker Carlton line ups last year put up some great performances.
Good point.No doubt Carlton can still put up a very strong performance but the timing of all these absences are just horrible. If you want to be a contender at the end of the year we know top 4 is pretty much a must. We play five teams in a row that are going to be top-4 contenders - it is obviously still very early in the season but all of these games could be seen as "8-point games" for the Blues.
Kudos on the petting zoo referenceYeah that's absolutely fair.
If Giants were bringing down Cogs and Taylor, or if it was at the Petting Zoo, then I'd lock them in.
Genuine toss up as it stands.
Yeah I had to take five seconds before that one sunk in.Kudos on the petting zoo reference
Ha, was just coming here to ask that. Bizarre.How the hell are we favourites??
It's just one of those vicious cycles. Blues fans cop it for 20+ years for being terrible, some Blues fans focus on giving back 20+ years of pent up frustration back to those who were giving them crap once the team starts winning more.Giants need to win this. Blues fans have the arrogance of B2B premiers having won nothing.
They badly need humbling.
How's your tipping been this year? Need context before I put any weight behind this comment.I'm tipping Carlton by a couple of goals.