AFL: No conflict, Asada report usable

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"I don't see any reason why I'm conflicted," Demetriou told ABC radio this morning.

"I don't think [there is a conflict] and that will be up to advice from lawyers."

Demetriou said he was hopeful finer details of the charges levelled against Essendon would be released as early as next week.

"It's our intention to get the charges out in the public domain so that the people understand what lays behind the charges and the particulars of the charges.

"Hopefully we'll do that in the coming days, because I think that it's important and it will answer a lot of questions."
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Demetriou also would like the August 26 hearing to be public.
"It's entirely a decision for the chairman of the commission under our rules," he said.
"There's a lot of merit in a public hearing.
"The complexity of this case, notwithstanding the issues of privacy, it would be important for the public to understand what's gone on."
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Demetriou said the league and Essendon want the interim Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority to be made public after the commission hearing.
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The League boss also corrected claims that the interim ASADA report could not be used at the hearing.
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He said the plan was to refer to ASADA's report in the hearing.​
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“It is our intention to release the particulars of the charges in the next few days, because it's important for people to understand ... what is behind the charge of conduct unbecoming,” Demetriou said.
“There is a series of particulars that goes to that charge.”
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"I've made it very clear from day one that this process of the independence of the Commission is something that we absolutely had to adhere to," Demetriou said on ABC Radio.
"I have acted like every other commissioner. I received the report when every other commissioner received the report.
"Those nonsensical allegations which were just offensive and wrong have already been dealt with. I've got no issue sitting on the commission whatsoever."
Demetriou hopes the hearing on August 26 is all that is required to end the controversy that has dragged on since February.
He said the AFL Commission was the right body to hear the case as they work on behalf of the 17 other clubs.
"The commission is an independent body, that's why it was set up. It's heard these matters before," Demetriou said.
"It's heard these matters and dealt with them without fear or favour. It's made of eminent people. You're not going to find a better quality group of people.
"These are very reputable people who hold very significant positions in their normal working day lives. They are independent.
"Of course they've got an interest, they've got an interest on behalf of the 17 other clubs. We're not going to apologise for that."
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I'd actually like the interim report released ASAP. On SEN they were saying apparently the minister actually has the power to release the full version or an edited version of ASADA reports at their discretion.
 
Good n? ews indeed.

The more mistakes the AFL make at the hearing (if there is one), the easier it will be for Essendon to get an injunction against its decision and get a proper hearing.

Demetriou isn't conflicted......anyone buying that?
AFL commission is "independent".......

and it goes on. Let the lawyers sort it out, but so far Essendon's lawyers sound a lot more on the ball than the AFL's.

Does anyone seriously believe it isn't a kangaroo court?
 
rfctiger74 said:
I'd actually like the interim report released ASAP. On SEN they were saying apparently the minister actually has the power to release the full version or an edited version of ASADA reports at their discretion.
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I think we all would like it however I believe it is defined as a "working document" which means that it is unavailable under FOI. The minister could leave a copy in the QANTAS club accidentally. He might even get votes in the up coming election if he did that.
 

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VL3OJ said:
I think we all would like it however I believe it is defined as a "working document" which means that it is unavailable under FOI. The minister could leave a copy in the QANTAS club accidentally. He might even get votes in the up coming election if he did that.
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Forget who it was (Finey??) but the guy on SEN said they had actually looked into this, and the minister was able to release it. It is SEN though....
 
Demetriou says he wants the hearing to be public knowing full well that it will never happen.
Demetriou is the CEO of the AFL of course he has a conflict of interest.

No players = 17 teams 2014 & 2015 = less $$$ = disaster
Need players to avoid sanctions
Require scapegoat or scapegoats
Blame it all on Hird, Thompson, Reid, Corcoran
Players the victims & found innocent
Job done :thumbsu:
 
60sbomber said:
Good n? ews indeed.

The more mistakes the AFL make at the hearing (if there is one), the easier it will be for Essendon to get an injunction against its decision and get a proper hearing.

Demetriou isn't conflicted......anyone buying that?
AFL commission is "independent".......

and it goes on. Let the lawyers sort it out, but so far Essendon's lawyers sound a lot more on the ball than the AFL's.

Does anyone seriously believe it isn't a kangaroo court?
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Can you please explain

What is the COI Does Andy have?
This is the AFL comp, who has the right to hear/lay such charges?
Why is it a kangaroo court?
 
60sbomber said:
Good n? ews indeed.

The more mistakes the AFL make at the hearing (if there is one), the easier it will be for Essendon to get an injunction against its decision and get a proper hearing.

Demetriou isn't conflicted......anyone buying that?
AFL commission is "independent".......

and it goes on. Let the lawyers sort it out, but so far Essendon's lawyers sound a lot more on the ball than the AFL's.

Does anyone seriously believe it isn't a kangaroo court?
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Almost everyone is Victoria is conflicted in some way from the Honourable Justice Simon Whelan (aka Digger) to the Auskick kid. It would be good for Paul Little to remember that he is a custodian of EFC, and that the way and the board operates in the next three months will determine if Essendon are mentioned in the same breath as University, Fitzroy and the Dodo. Just because it is EFC, doesn't mean it has a god given right to exist in the AFL. Paul's task is not to risk the entire club however it is to mitigate the current scenario.

There are two polar scenarios...
AFL win and smack down Essendon: You lose because appeasing the AFL may have reduced the penalty.
Essendon win on a technicality: You lose because for the next 200 years, your club will be tarnished.

Up to you how much risk you want however the longer Essendon draw this out through the courts will determine how AFL is portrayed in Australia. Do you want AFL to become the Rugby Leage of the South?
 
Bazza37 said:
No players = 17 teams 2014 & 2015 = less $$$ = disaster
Need players to avoid sanctions
Require scapegoat or scapegoats
Blame it all on Hird, Thompson, Reid, Corcoran
Players the victims & found innocent
Job done :thumbsu:
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They'll just allow Essendon to top up from state leagues IMO.
 
rfctiger74 said:
Forget who it was (Finey??) but the guy on SEN said they had actually looked into this, and the minister was able to release it. It is SEN though....
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Ings and Adrian Anderson have both said the same.

I'd forget about that though it won't be released. I don't see the hearing being public either. Vlads language was all about him liking it to be public, no commitment was made.
 
Chameleon75 said:
Ings and Adrian Anderson have both said the same.

I'd forget about that though it won't be released. I don't see the hearing being public either. Vlads language was all about him liking it to be public, no commitment was made.
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jenny61_99 may be able to confirm, but I think with the Crows after early promises of an open investigation and report on findings, confidentiality agreements were thrown down and no one could talk (much to the annoyance of many Crows fans who wanted an explanation from Trigg)

Definitely agree similar is likely to happen again
 

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