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The under 16s All Australian squad is another reason why the academy advantages needs to be addressed.
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11 of the 25 players linked to Sydney, Gold Coast, Brisbane and GWS.
The AFL is a comp without merit or honour. Since inception it has been a faux national comp.
Having failed nmfc bureaucrat Kane involved in the review seeking ‘competitive balance’ whatever the Essendon that means is a joke so bad that even philreich would not tell it.
Only 2 south aussies.
Can easily make an argument Sa sides need nga access more than anyone the way we’ve been producing draft prospects the past decade.
The only reason ports coping is our ability to hold onto our vic draftees.
If we relied on hometown prospects we would be a basket case
I think you've got this wrong. Check out the link below that confirms Adelaide local from Plympton Ashton Moir was a part of the Crows' NGA this year but of course got drafted before pick 40 when Carlton selected him with pick 29:No it’s not. We don’t get access to metro, only country , and the Sa indigenous pop that falls into eligibility for us is tiny.
It’s not the same at all.
I think you've got this wrong. Check out the link below that confirms Adelaide local from Plympton Ashton Moir was a part of the Crows' NGA this year but of course got drafted before pick 40 when Carlton selected him with pick 29:
Academies duo to train with the Crows squad
The experience allows potential draftees to experience the ins and outs of an elite club environmentwww.afc.com.au
The link also confirms Adelaide local from Unley James Borlase was a member the Crows NGA and the Adelaide were given priority access to him because he wasn't bid on before pick 40 in 2021. The metropolitan areas of SA & WA were not included back in 2016 or 2017 which is why the Crows didn't have access to Fogarty or Rankine.
But if what you're saying is true then that means SA is the only state to not have access to metro academy talent because we know WA does through the Jesse Motlop example:
Blues get a son of gun, why Freo misses out on NGA member Motlop
Fremantle NGA member Jesse Motlop has been drafted by Carltonwww.afl.com.au
Excellent point. Gold Coast, Brisbane and Freo have all been raided.Didn't you get pick 2 for Weller, who wanted out to return home, in the most bizarre trade ever. If you're upset about that deal then idk what to tell you. You're making our points for us old boy.
And only 1 Sandgroper.Only 2 south aussies.
Can easily make an argument Sa sides need nga access more than anyone the way we’ve been producing draft prospects the past decade.
The only reason ports coping is our ability to hold onto our vic draftees.
If we relied on hometown prospects we would be a basket case
Excellent point. Gold Coast, Brisbane and Freo have all been raided.
One of those teams hasn't been gifted AFL bullshit picks.
Thank for clarifying.
You don't think Freo's association with Clontarf hasn't grown the game?We are just growing the game in a non-traditional AFL market, that’s all.
Freo is competing with 1 other AFL team and still can’t get the job done. If you want an academy, relocate to North Queensland.
This is an outstanding ideaWill the AFL finally let the clubs trade their Virgin Velocity points?
The under 16s All Australian squad is another reason why the academy advantages needs to be addressed.
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11 of the 25 players linked to Sydney, Gold Coast, Brisbane and GWS.
You don't think Freo's association with Clontarf hasn't grown the game?
The mountain of work West Coast and Freo have done in rural and remote areas is pretty well known. It's been going on since the 70s.
It just doesn't result in bullshit picks and concessions.
Claremont.Is Clontarf where that serial killer was from, or was that Claremont? I can never remember.
Props to Freo for growing the game in an AFL dominated market. Give yourself a round of applause.
Claremont.
You're being incredibly naive if you think the indigenous players that came from rural and remote areas have/had the same access to league footy as local metro zone kids. Particularly up North.
There's so much information about it it's honestly staggering you hold that view.
Nah, 1 WA boy and 2 poorly performing WA sides would seem to make a better argument that it’s WA needs help “more than anyone else”.Only 2 south aussies.
Can easily make an argument Sa sides need nga access more than anyone the way we’ve been producing draft prospects the past decade.
The only reason ports coping is our ability to hold onto our vic draftees.
If we relied on hometown prospects we would be a basket case
OK. Lets circle back around.Now we're talking about a different issue altogether.
I can't keep up with where the goal posts are.
Freo has been raided. It has also raided other clubs. It has really just been a heavy top end trader in both directions, with massive names constantly going in and out. My club has never paid as much for any player ever as your club did for a rising star premiership winning 21 year old only 12 months ago.Excellent point. Gold Coast, Brisbane and Freo have all been raided.
One of those teams hasn't been gifted AFL bullshit picks.
Thank for clarifying.
OK. Lets circle back around.
Give me you definition of 'growing the game in an AFL dominated market'.
It's not a trick question.
Sorry but there's no circle here. It's very straight-forward.How far around the circle would you like to go?
Sadly we poorly traded out pick 2 because of N Daicos for not much. If the system was different we would have keep that pick. In the end through poor trading we paid pick 2 for ND. We also used pick 8 (if I remember correctly) for Moore and a pick in the 50s or J Daicos because no one wanted him. Sadly Collingwood isnt the best club for getting cheap father sons despite having 3 good ones.Under my proposal Collingwood instead of getting daicos for a bunch of later picks would have had to use their 1st rounder, 2nd rounder, and then would have still been shy which would have required them to trade their future 1st or future 2nd (Or trade a player worth that much or go into deficit that amount and would have cost even more if teams hadn’t of baulked at bidding on him in the first few draft picks)
I dont see how that is “cheaply” by the definition of a system that saw daicos bought for picks that clubs often start looking at passing on.
The idea of bidding was never to make teams pay through the nose for these players.
It was to do away with the farcical nature of teams getting guns with 3rd rounders (like how Geelong got hawkins).
The bid match process got warped by teams finding away around it.
The afl attempted to skirt around the edges of fixing it by the change to the list spot rules and that has not made a lick of difference
My rule completely and unequivocally stamps out the ability to rort the original intention.
For me, in Australia we tend to break up our sports into summer and winter ones. Across the whole country, our small number of elite youth mostly choose cricket if they pick a summer sport and pick afl if they pick a winter one unless they live in nsw/qld/act in which case they pick rugby league.Sorry but there's no circle here. It's very straight-forward.
This is what you wrote:
"Props to Freo for growing the game in an AFL dominated market"
It's a genuine question. What is your definition of AFL dominated market?
I can't really contribute until I know what you are referring to. What is the 'market'? Do you mean Metro? What is dominated?
If I assume you mean all of WA in younger people playing AFL at rates of 90% or above, I might be miles off.
Please just answer the question.
That's a very traditional view, and one I shared until recently.For me, in Australia we tend to break up our sports into summer and winter ones. Across the whole country, our small number of elite youth mostly choose cricket if they pick a summer sport and pick afl if they pick a winter one unless they live in nsw/qld/act in which case they pick rugby league.
Of course, a significant number pick weird things like volleyball or badminton or polo, but afl/league/cricket are the dominant sports at scooping up that elite talent.
For non elite athletes there is only one dominant sport across summer and winter. That is soccer. But we aren't talking about non elite athletes so that doesn't matter.
You don't think Freo's association with Clontarf hasn't grown the game?
The mountain of work West Coast and Freo have done in rural and remote areas is pretty well known. It's been going on since the 70s in some form.
It just doesn't result in bullshit picks and concessions.