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Better than last week, but the quality of the opposition was several rungs below Geelong. Should not have dropped that game on our home deck.

Positives: Blackburn was immense, as usual. Issy Grant, despite a late costly turnover, was fantastic down back. Georgostathis was dogged in defence and battled hard. Dee Berry was good, especially early. Edmunds and Hartwig okay. Fitzgerald showed some signs of the quality player she is.

Room for improvement: Moody was really out of sorts - not sure what is going on there. She is much, much better than that. We're getting nothing out of Bateman - didn't even realise she was playing until the last quarter. Lamb was okay but still short of a gallop I think. Coyne, McFarlane, Lagioia, Wilcox - not much impact.

That third quarter was great. More of that, please!
 
As one of the original AFLW clubs driving the Women’s game, it’s incredibly hard to stomach seeing the team struggling so badly, particularly after being raided by expansion teams.


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I actually question the viability of it from the Club's point of view. Without knowing who covers the cost (AFL vs Club). I'm not against the women's league at all, but the way we've been f'd over after being a cornerstone of building the thing, I just don't think it's worth it if we pay for this while we can't afford quality assistants for the men's team. Quadruple that feeling if they want higher/equal pay. I'm sorry, but it's not the same standard as the men's yet/still, so I don't think they deserve equal pay.
 

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I actually question the viability of it from the Club's point of view. Without knowing who covers the cost (AFL vs Club). I'm not against the women's league at all, but the way we've been f'd over after being a cornerstone of building the thing, I just don't think it's worth it if we pay for this while we can't afford quality assistants for the men's team. Quadruple that feeling if they want higher/equal pay. I'm sorry, but it's not the same standard as the men's yet/still, so I don't think they deserve equal pay.

Men's and women's departments are completely separate from a financial point of view, there is a men's cap and a women's cap for coaches, they are not connected in any way.

We have always posted strong home crowd and membership numbers in the AFLW and the club as a whole has recorded 9 consecutive years of profits and become debt-free. There are other clubs who are still in debt and they seem to manage to respective football departments just fine. As discussed in plenty of other threads the issue may be the people in charge of it.

To suggest the viability of the AFLW from the club's standpoint is just madness, do you seriously think we would've got tens of millions of government funding as well as getting gifted key crown land for the redevelopment if we didn't have a women's program?

If you honestly cannot see how much the standard has improved in just 7 years then you haven't been watching very closely and of course the standard is nowhere near the men's, it would be delusional and irrational to think that it would be after such a short amount of time. One is in its 127th season and the other is in its 8th.
 
Men's and women's departments are completely separate from a financial point of view, there is a men's cap and a women's cap for coaches, they are not connected in any way.

We have always posted strong home crowd and membership numbers in the AFLW and the club as a whole has recorded 9 consecutive years of profits and become debt-free. There are other clubs who are still in debt and they seem to manage to respective football departments just fine. As discussed in plenty of other threads the issue may be the people in charge of it.

To suggest the viability of the AFLW from the club's standpoint is just madness, do you seriously think we would've got tens of millions of government funding as well as getting gifted key crown land for the redevelopment if we didn't have a women's program?

If you honestly cannot see how much the standard has improved in just 7 years then you haven't been watching very closely and of course the standard is nowhere near the men's, it would be delusional and irrational to think that it would be after such a short amount of time. One is in its 127th season and the other is in its 8th.

Well that's good to hear.

If you read my post, I admitted I didn't know the financials.

The standard has improved, but that's it. You can't convince me they are the same level at all. Hence, why the same pay? That was my point. Where did I say that I expected it to be the same, lol. A bit OTT reaction by yourself. And I'd hold off on trolling mentally ill by suggesting being delusional or irrational in such a negative sense.

To each his/her own.

My opinion is my opinion.
 
As one of the original AFLW clubs driving the Women’s game, it’s incredibly hard to stomach seeing the team struggling so badly, particularly after being raided by expansion teams.


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We can't keep using that as an excuse, we made the finals last year and were a kick away from winning one. We then took the exact same list (barring draftees) into this season. We were not active at all in the trade period which suggests that we thought we had the talent we needed. This on the football department.
 
We can't keep using that as an excuse, we made the finals last year and were a kick away from winning one. We then took the exact same list (barring draftees) into this season. We were not active at all in the trade period which suggests that we thought we had the talent we needed. This on the football department.

And we took only one player - Carruthers - at the draft? Must have obviously been a reason for it, but I thought it strange.
 
The standard has improved, but that's it. You can't convince me they are the same level at all.

Again there is no point in comparing the two, one is a professional competition that has been truly professional for 35+ years and the other is a semi-professional competition in its 7th year that started from scratch.

Fortunately the next two big things the AFLPA are trying to tick off are making the competition full-time and getting each team to play each other once.
 

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Well that's good to hear.

If you read my post, I admitted I didn't know the financials.

The standard has improved, but that's it. You can't convince me they are the same level at all. Hence, why the same pay? That was my point. Where did I say that I expected it to be the same, lol. A bit OTT reaction by yourself. And I'd hold off on trolling mentally ill by suggesting being delusional or irrational in such a negative sense.

To each his/her own.

My opinion is my opinion.
Who said they want the same pay?
 
As one of the original AFLW clubs driving the Women’s game, it’s incredibly hard to stomach seeing the team struggling so badly, particularly after being raided by expansion teams.


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The constant raiding of our side is why I don’t watch the women’s game anymore. I basically just check the scores and that’s it. The AFLW handled expansion so, so poorly
 
Well that's good to hear.

If you read my post, I admitted I didn't know the financials.

The standard has improved, but that's it. You can't convince me they are the same level at all. Hence, why the same pay? That was my point. Where did I say that I expected it to be the same, lol. A bit OTT reaction by yourself. And I'd hold off on trolling mentally ill by suggesting being delusional or irrational in such a negative sense.

To each his/her own.

My opinion is my opinion.

The top tier of AFLW players earn 73 grand a year. Ellie Blackburn earns 15% less than Cody Raak.
 
I just can’t watch it anymore, it hurts too much when you see the best players in the competition who were once Bulldogs running around for other clubs who didn’t put the investment into it that the Bulldogs did, talk about kicked in the teeth.
 
I just can’t watch it anymore, it hurts too much when you see the best players in the competition who were once Bulldogs running around for other clubs who didn’t put the investment into it that the Bulldogs did, talk about kicked in the teeth.

Yeah, but not many people outside our board seem to get that. Poorly tun league.
 

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