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Our team appears to be not fit enough.
Got Melbourne next week we will be 0-3 to start the season
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Better than last week, but the quality of the opposition was several rungs below Geelong. Should not have dropped that game on our home deck.
Positives: Blackburn was immense, as usual. Issy Grant, despite a late costly turnover, was fantastic down back. Georgostathis was dogged in defence and battled hard. Dee Berry was good, especially early. Edmunds and Hartwig okay. Fitzgerald showed some signs of the quality player she is.
Room for improvement: Moody was really out of sorts - not sure what is going on there. She is much, much better than that. We're getting nothing out of Bateman - didn't even realise she was playing until the last quarter. Lamb was okay but still short of a gallop I think. Coyne, McFarlane, Lagioia, Wilcox - not much impact.
That third quarter was great. More of that, please!
Positives: Blackburn was immense, as usual. Issy Grant, despite a late costly turnover, was fantastic down back. Georgostathis was dogged in defence and battled hard. Dee Berry was good, especially early. Edmunds and Hartwig okay. Fitzgerald showed some signs of the quality player she is.
Room for improvement: Moody was really out of sorts - not sure what is going on there. She is much, much better than that. We're getting nothing out of Bateman - didn't even realise she was playing until the last quarter. Lamb was okay but still short of a gallop I think. Coyne, McFarlane, Lagioia, Wilcox - not much impact.
That third quarter was great. More of that, please!
As one of the original AFLW clubs driving the Women’s game, it’s incredibly hard to stomach seeing the team struggling so badly, particularly after being raided by expansion teams.
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What sort of game plan is “just throw it on your boot and kick it forward”?
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It’s so frustrating being a Bulldogs supporter, we win so much of the ground ball, get a lot looks inside 50 and yet just cannot finish and turnover it over far too easily.
Our ball movement, pressure and speed are the big three worries for me, playing on at all cost and bombing it forward just no longer cuts it in the AFLW and the fact that we lost the tackle count in both losses this year is just unacceptable at any level of football. 18 unforced turnovers to 9 today, the most so far this season by any team and after 2 rounds we’re ranked 17th for pressure only behind West Coast.
Teams know that we prefer the contested game and are just chipping it around until an option opens forward because they know we don’t defend the uncontested ball well. We had two periods of about 10 minutes today in Q1 and Q3 where we did actually pile on the pressure and try and use the wings and it worked, The disappointing aspect was that we were unable to keep it going long enough, especially after what Geelong did to us last week. It certainly doesn’t help when we give away lazy free kicks in our forward 50, let alone giving one away when we’re having a shot.
Pritchard, Lynch, Grant and Hartwig were all excellent, with Blackburn, Edmonds and Georgostathis all solid as well and it’s great to see McLeod getting back into form but there were far too many who were below their best and would be very disappointed in the way they’ve started the season. As Burke and Blackburn both said this week “injuries are no excuse”.
A far bigger concern is that we brought in no one during the trade period which suggests we identified that we already have the talent necessary to take the next step but from my eye every other team has made noticeable improvements this season and we are stuck in the past.
Our ball movement, pressure and speed are the big three worries for me, playing on at all cost and bombing it forward just no longer cuts it in the AFLW and the fact that we lost the tackle count in both losses this year is just unacceptable at any level of football. 18 unforced turnovers to 9 today, the most so far this season by any team and after 2 rounds we’re ranked 17th for pressure only behind West Coast.
Teams know that we prefer the contested game and are just chipping it around until an option opens forward because they know we don’t defend the uncontested ball well. We had two periods of about 10 minutes today in Q1 and Q3 where we did actually pile on the pressure and try and use the wings and it worked, The disappointing aspect was that we were unable to keep it going long enough, especially after what Geelong did to us last week. It certainly doesn’t help when we give away lazy free kicks in our forward 50, let alone giving one away when we’re having a shot.
Pritchard, Lynch, Grant and Hartwig were all excellent, with Blackburn, Edmonds and Georgostathis all solid as well and it’s great to see McLeod getting back into form but there were far too many who were below their best and would be very disappointed in the way they’ve started the season. As Burke and Blackburn both said this week “injuries are no excuse”.
A far bigger concern is that we brought in no one during the trade period which suggests we identified that we already have the talent necessary to take the next step but from my eye every other team has made noticeable improvements this season and we are stuck in the past.
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Couple of very questionable umpiring decisions went against us that could have made a difference.
Pritchard really stood out to me. Super player.
Ellie was on the bike the whole time she was on the interchange which is interesting.
Pritchard really stood out to me. Super player.
Ellie was on the bike the whole time she was on the interchange which is interesting.
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I actually question the viability of it from the Club's point of view. Without knowing who covers the cost (AFL vs Club). I'm not against the women's league at all, but the way we've been f'd over after being a cornerstone of building the thing, I just don't think it's worth it if we pay for this while we can't afford quality assistants for the men's team. Quadruple that feeling if they want higher/equal pay. I'm sorry, but it's not the same standard as the men's yet/still, so I don't think they deserve equal pay.
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Halfway through the 4th quarter and Carlton still on ZERO.
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We play Melbourne next week so we shouldn’t throw stones.
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Men's and women's departments are completely separate from a financial point of view, there is a men's cap and a women's cap for coaches, they are not connected in any way.
We have always posted strong home crowd and membership numbers in the AFLW and the club as a whole has recorded 9 consecutive years of profits and become debt-free. There are other clubs who are still in debt and they seem to manage to respective football departments just fine. As discussed in plenty of other threads the issue may be the people in charge of it.
To suggest the viability of the AFLW from the club's standpoint is just madness, do you seriously think we would've got tens of millions of government funding as well as getting gifted key crown land for the redevelopment if we didn't have a women's program?
If you honestly cannot see how much the standard has improved in just 7 years then you haven't been watching very closely and of course the standard is nowhere near the men's, it would be delusional and irrational to think that it would be after such a short amount of time. One is in its 127th season and the other is in its 8th.
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Well that's good to hear.
If you read my post, I admitted I didn't know the financials.
The standard has improved, but that's it. You can't convince me they are the same level at all. Hence, why the same pay? That was my point. Where did I say that I expected it to be the same, lol. A bit OTT reaction by yourself. And I'd hold off on trolling mentally ill by suggesting being delusional or irrational in such a negative sense.
To each his/her own.
My opinion is my opinion.
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We can't keep using that as an excuse, we made the finals last year and were a kick away from winning one. We then took the exact same list (barring draftees) into this season. We were not active at all in the trade period which suggests that we thought we had the talent we needed. This on the football department.
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And we took only one player - Carruthers - at the draft? Must have obviously been a reason for it, but I thought it strange.
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Again there is no point in comparing the two, one is a professional competition that has been truly professional for 35+ years and the other is a semi-professional competition in its 7th year that started from scratch.
Fortunately the next two big things the AFLPA are trying to tick off are making the competition full-time and getting each team to play each other once.
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Agree, very strange.
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Who said they want the same pay?
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The constant raiding of our side is why I don’t watch the women’s game anymore. I basically just check the scores and that’s it. The AFLW handled expansion so, so poorly
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The top tier of AFLW players earn 73 grand a year. Ellie Blackburn earns 15% less than Cody Raak.
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We signed two DFAs who played for other teams then took some time off.
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