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ASADA seeks evidence from Fairfax
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Essendon are throwing a lot of mud at ASADA, the AFL etc. and I am worried that some of it might even stick but this interview spells it out perfectly.
This interview combined with the invoices and money trail, Charters evidence, the text messages, the dosing rates will surely outweigh the white noise that Essendon and Hird are creating.
This interview combined with the invoices and money trail, Charters evidence, the text messages, the dosing rates will surely outweigh the white noise that Essendon and Hird are creating.
jenny61_99
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A shame they couldn't get the off the record portion of the interview.
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Can't they fine Fairfax/reporter if they don't hand it over? Or does protecting sources trump ASADA's coercive powers?
jenny61_99
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Well we know who the source is so that's not the issue. It's that off the record means just that. Not sure what the ruling is on that.
A shame?
You think off the record principles should be trashed so you get result you want?
grouse mate
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If its off the record it would not be part of the recording/transcripts so there is nothing to hand over rather than a person's word which would be easily disputed. Can't reacall any suggestions from Baker/McKenzie that there was any off the record discoveries.
Can't see why ASADA are asking for this. Seems a bit weird. Surely they aren't going to rely on newspaper articles?
Dosages for a start
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So no matter what happens in the Court case in August ASADA is going to go after Essendon with evidence it has collected outside the disputed evidence.
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It was an interview very early on between THE main player in all of this BEFORE the Essendon PR machine kicked into gear.
Not weird at all. I think you know how well this article links things together.
If they need to "bolster" their case after sending out SC I'm not sure that bodes to well for them, but I'm sure others will argue differently
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The recent concern around principles arising out of Essendon is immensely ironic.
It's just dotting i's and crossing t's. It will most likely corroborate other evidence they've gained. As SC notices have been issued it is most likely they can do without it, but it ices the cake.
Edit: The most interesting thing about this is that ASADA are continuing down the path to the ADRVP even while the court case is in progress. This possibly means they believe that, no matter what the outcome of the case might be - even if it means all evidence from the "joint" investigation is invalidated, they have enough other stuff to make the charges against the players stick.
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That's a pathetic comment frankly.
So by Laphroiaig logic, because I barrack for a team that is under investigation for various issues, some which can be subjectively considered moral in nature, I by extension forego any right to put forward any opinion about any principle whatsoever.
Yeah, that seems legit. Sometimes your emotional involvement in this severely overrides your rationality matey
And the fact that they've had roughly 7 months to obtain it via disclosure?
Why now I guess is what I wonder
I don't think this is good news for Essendon. As I said in my edited post, at the very least it shows that ASADA is continuing down the path to the ADRVP despite what the outcome of the current court case might be. Presumably they have enough evidence outside the "joint" investigation to make convictions stick even if the court rules the "joint" part of their investigation is unlawful.
grouse mate
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Its another Sam Lane piece so its hardly worth reading much into. Weird the age seem to be giving her open slather now on this topic, what happened to the original story breakers?
The article is a bit delphic when it talks about dosage. A few paras up it states that nothing off the record was provided but at the point at which it talks about dosage it notes that Dank asked that those details not be published.
Whether that makes it part of an on record interview that never went to air or mans that it is off the record - I'm not sure. Although it would seem strange for so blatantly mention this if it was not something that was provided to ASADA.
At least this article addresses the main game - finding out exactly what, and how much, was injected into Essendon players.
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S. Pete
They would have to assume they are still going to the ADRVP.
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Morality of convenience is rarely convincing.
Neither is selective moral outrage
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