Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5
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I doubt I'll still be around but you best let me know when prices go down like Albanese and Bowen promised before the election under their energy plan..How's that election promise of $275 lower by 2025 looking?
In fact my money would be on you not being around when electricity prices go down but neither of us will be around to collect.
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If you haven't worked out now both sides lie with most of their election promises, then I really can't help you.
I don't trust them when it comes to specific promises like this where they can't even control the outcomes.
Politicians lie Bicks... just like Dutton has with his Nuclear costs.
But no issue holding them to account...
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Renewables aren't 100% environmentally friendly given the bulk of them are made in China who burn way way way more coal than any other country in their manufacture. Not too environmentally friendly either the swathe of trees being felled in clearing for those wind farms planned in Qld and other states.
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So what is more environmentally friendly Bicks out of brown coal, black coal, gas, wind & solar?
Where has anyone who is credible claimed any source is 100% environmentally friendly?
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That's easy NUCLEAR
$275 price promise dead in the water - Liberal Party of Australia
The Australian Energy Regulator (AER) has confirmed Labor’s promise to reduce household electricity prices by $275 is officially broken with Australians
www.liberal.org.au
Albanese flags relief as power bills rise as much as 95pc
The PM has signalled additional cost of living relief as the global energy crisis hits Australia, with some households in NSW facing a 95 per cent rise in power bills.
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And at 6.40PM what state is burning the more expensive energy source GAS? Yep you guessed it little old SA.
Generation
| Region | Black Coal | Brown Coal | Gas | Liquid Fuel | Other | Hydro | Wind | Large Solar | Small Solar | Battery Storage | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Queensland | 6,015 | 406 | 0 | 0 | 654 | 282 | 39 | 465 | 147 | 8,009 | |
| New South Wales | 4,954 | 43 | 0 | 15 | 956 | 534 | 662 | 842 | 159 | 8,165 | |
| Victoria | 3,798 | 20 | 0 | 532 | 850 | 368 | 825 | 359 | 6,752 | ||
| South Australia | 643 | 0 | 0 | 757 | 207 | 659 | 99 | 2,365 | |||
| Tasmania | 0 | 0 | 1,256 | 19 | 66 | 1,341 | |||||
| Western Australia | 316 | 216 | 0 | 9 | 785 | 107 | 1,047 | 0 | 2,479 | ||
| Total | 11,285 | 3,798 | 1,327 | 0 | 25 | 3,398 | 3,227 | 1,383 | 3,904 | 764 | 29,111 |
Demand
| Region | Demand (AEMO Operational) | Demand (Pumping Hydro) | Demand (Battery Charging) | Demand (Other) | Demand (Met by Rooftop Solar) | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Queensland | 7,120 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 465 | 7,585 |
| New South Wales | 7,788 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 842 | 8,632 |
| Victoria | 5,858 | 0 | 0 | 825 | 6,683 | |
| South Australia | 1,929 | 6 | 0 | 659 | 2,594 | |
| Tasmania | 1,071 | 0 | 66 | 1,138 | ||
| Western Australia | 1,432 | 0 | 0 | 1,047 | 2,479 | |
| Total | 25,199 | 0 | 8 | 0 | 3,904 | 29,111 |
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Surely it's about the cost over 24 hours Bicks. You really don't need to remind us everyday that solar doesn't produce energy at nights... as most here have a basic intelligence. Thoughit appears many still don't understand the difference between cost & price!
Perhaps governments should have more of a planned role in ensuring Australia has a decent transmission grid, where energy sources can be shared better across jurisdictions...
Build it and they will come: Transmission is key, but Coalition making it harder and costlier
Transmission remains the fundamental building block to decarbonising the grid. But the LNP is making it difficult to do on time and within costs.
reneweconomy.com.au
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RenewEconomy really?Surely it's about the cost over 24 hours Bicks. You really don't need to remind us everyday that solar doesn't produce energy at nights... as most here have a basic intelligence. Thoughit appears many still don't understand the difference between cost & price!
Perhaps governments should have more of a planned role in ensuring Australia has a decent transmission grid, where energy sources can be shared better across jurisdictions...
Build it and they will come: Transmission is key, but Coalition making it harder and costlier
Transmission remains the fundamental building block to decarbonising the grid. But the LNP is making it difficult to do on time and within costs.
You having a laugh or what?
Could you have found a more biased source? I seriously doubt it.
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Geez Bicks did you actually read it?
It's talking about the need to improve energy transmission which is a legitimate issue.
It's very difficult to have any meaningful discussion with you, as you close your mind to media sources outside Sky News.
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And btw 1 day, 7 day and 30 day input info is available though you might not like what you see
see the individual energy source inputs for the last 24 hours here..
explore.openelectricity.org.au
see the individual energy source inputs for the last 24 hours here..
Open Electricity: An Open Platform for National Electricity Market Data
An Open Platform for National Electricity Market Data
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What a load of bollocks.
You seem to have Sky Derangement syndrome, they're not nearly as biased as RenewEconomy.
I quote plenty of sources from many different media sources and Sky wouldn't be near the top of that list.
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So once again Bicks you just knocked the article without even bothering to discuss it's premise that we need to improve transmission... which surely you agree with? If not, why wouldn't you want to make the grid stronger?
Why even bother quoting me if you are incapable of having an intelligent discussion.
Seriously you are like a child at times...
Bit like you thumb down posts without even reading them.
Keep quoting your spot prices (not costs!), canning all renewables & talking up Nuclear & Coal (neither of which have much of a future)... because that's all you have.
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How does one of the World's biggest gas exporters run short of gas?
What a joke!
www.smh.com.au
What a joke!
‘Time is running out’: Victoria, NSW turn to gas imports as energy crisis nears
Governments are rushing to kickstart Australia’s first-ever gas imports, despite the nation being a top global exporter of the fossil fuel.
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Oh dear...
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