Autopsy Autopsy vs Collingwood aka the Great Pain Robbery

[Disco Dew]

The morning after. I’m still thinking about that first half, I can’t remember the last time we played footy like that. Kingy is right, just watch that first half twice and feel really good about things. Second half is for the bin for all of the reasons highlighted.
In fact scratch that, the pies came back as they always do, we got behind but got back in front and then we got behind again. Ignoring some of the shitty umpiring we still had opportunities to get back in front. We stopped but we did start again and I think there’s something in that despite the loss.

 

[Morcosovich]

Why didn’t we make any in game changes in the last quarter to stem the tide? Send pink or Brinn back to clog up the defence? Put Zurhar in the middle. Dropping the tag wasn’t the only questionable decision. Sure the players are to blame but as a coaching unit it’s disappointing they couldn’t set up ro defend a 5 goal lead. Everyone knew they would come. We learnt nothing from the week before.

Have to agree with this. Could of rotated the mods with zurhaar and Curtis. Then bring back LDU and Wardlaw for last 10 mins.

 

[Devil Fish]

Yesterday’s loss could possibly be the most painful loss since the ‘98 GF?

In so many ways, it’s just painful.

 

[Devil Fish]

Have to agree with this. Could have rotated the mods with zurhaar and Curtis. Then bring back LDU and Wardlaw for last 10 mins.

Clarko hasn’t coached well at all this year. I realise he’s dealing with a very ordinary list, but yeah, “underwhelming” is the word i would use to describe his tenure so far at Arden St.

 

[Sully111]

Ironically I remember 2-weeks ago a North player got called for running over the mark by the umpire, and a 50m was given to the opposition. This was even though the North player after having the spot marked by the umpire then moved 2-3 metres behind the mark, and as soon as he moved forward a metre, the umpire called him for going over the mark.

Windhager got instantly pinged for going over the mark at a crucial time in our game against the lions. The 50 killed our momentum.
When I look at that decision and compare it to the non 50 last night, it absolutely shows the incompetence of the umpiring in our game.
Yesterday's was pretty simple really, they didn't have the balls to blow the whistle because of the state of the game... but with it being that blatant, it's just nowhere near good enough.

 

[Clarke is King]

Yesterday’s loss could possibly be the most painful loss since the ‘98 GF?

In so many ways, it’s just painful.

Yeah i'm still as flat as a shitcarters hat. Beating WCE was one thing but beating the pies after that first half would have been massive for the club (and us)

 

[justroyal]

The morning after. I’m still thinking about that first half, I can’t remember the last time we played footy like that. Kingy is right, just watch that first half twice and feel really good about things. Second half is for the bin for all of the reasons highlighted.
In fact scratch that, the pies came back as they always do, we got behind but got back in front and then we got behind again. Ignoring some of the shitty umpiring we still had opportunities to get back in front. We stopped but we did start again and I think there’s something in that despite the loss.

We maintained levelling out goals conceded all the way into the third quarter. What happened after that, as you say is correct. Could Larkey have been used better? Could personnel have switched. What the hell were our leaders doing shitting the bed? It seemed a bit like the entire season where everyone becomes flat footed and not willing to move or change things up. Purely hoping for the opposition not to storm over.

 

[giantroo]

 

[gokangas]

I haven't seen any of the game, thankfully, as was at a family event. Watched scores on the app and could just feel what was gonna happen. I've seen the controversial ones and just makes the loss harder to take. A few questions please.
Larkey - star first quarter - nothing after. What happened?
Taking WiPhi ff being touted as the worst coaching decision of the year. Clarko said he was tired - thoughts?
What time will the AFL admit the umpiring errors?

 

[Sphynx]

Yesterday’s loss could possibly be the most painful loss since the ‘98 GF?

In so many ways, it’s just painful.

Come on, overreaction much? Jesus.

Had nothing on 98'. I doubt anything will top it in the clubs history. Not many sides in history completely kick away a premiership in a GF after being the clear best side in the comp all year.

I'd argue "that" Essendon comeback was much worse as we had a finals quality side that conceded that lead rather than one of the worst sides ever.

Getting annihilated in the 2000 prelim was hard to take by a fairly ordinary Demons side after being so dominant for the last 5-6 years also.

The Geelong Tudor/Ablett loss was absolutely devastating at the time. We don't consider it retrospectively, but we didn't have 96' and 99' at that point, it had been 30 years.

 

[blackshadow]

I’ve had time to reflect on the game yesterday and watched the replay last night and have a few thoughts.

Firstly, I am just so proud of what our boys did yesterday but it was gut-wrenching to fall short at the death and I’m absolutely gutted that we didn’t get the win.

My key takeaways after a bit of time to reflect are:

We have the on-field talent and a coach who can harness that talent to take on any team.

The reigning premiers had to throw absolutely everything at us to scrape home. I doubt any other current side bar Collingwood would have been able to do what they did to get back in the game.

It wasn’t lack of effort or mistakes that ultimately cost us; it was not being as fit/developed as Collingwood – they are a battle-hardened unit with a wealth of experience and some extremely talented players. We have some outstanding talent and our team is starting to gel but we started to tire midway through the third quarter, mistakes crept in and we couldn’t keep up the pressure that put us nine goals up.

We didn’t give up and came back to hit the front after Collingwood gained the lead late in the game. I can’t think of any time in the last five years where we wouldn’t have dropped our heads and just capitulated.

The first half was the best football we have played in more than ten years. That’s what we’ve got to look forward to in coming years and I’m so pumped about that prospect.

The umpiring was deplorable and definitely influenced the result.

This loss should burn in the hearts of every player out there yesterday, it should be a valuable lesson and each and every player should be able to take something away from the game to work on to get that little bit better. I’ve got no doubt that Clarko will be making it a learning experience and be harnessing the agony of the loss.

I can’t wait to see what the future brings for this crop of players and coaches.

Lastly - George Wardlaw will be the best player in the competition.

 

[Nate7]

I haven't seen any of the game, thankfully, as was at a family event. Watched scores on the app and could just feel what was gonna happen. I've seen the controversial ones and just makes the loss harder to take. A couple of questions please. Larkey - star first quarter - nothing after. What happened?
Taking WiPhi ff being touted as the worst coaching decision of the year. Clarko said he was tired - thoughts?

Clarko MUST have been tired, Will didn't look tired at all.

 

[Uncle_Leo]

Yesterday’s loss could possibly be the most painful loss since the ‘98 GF?

In so many ways, it’s just painful.

Not in the top 10 considering where we are at and they are at

2013 could fill up the top 10 alone.

 

[amaz199]

In 2016, we were the worst 12-1 side I've ever seen.

In 2024, we're the best 1-12 side I've ever seen.

It's bonkers.

We are a weird team. I couldn't believe it was the same team that played so horribly earlier in the year.

We are in desperate need of leadership. Shiels is not enough.

 

[blackshadow]

It's bonkers.

We are a weird team. I couldn't believe it was the same team that played so horribly earlier in the year.

We are in desperate need of leadership. Shiels is not enough.

Agreed but I think the next crop of leaders is there just not mature or mature enough yet.

Wardlaw, Sheezel, LDU, Larkey, Powell and perhaps X.

We missed Jy terribly yesterday.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

That’s ok, I wanted a team to deeply root against in September.

I was one of the few who hadn’t yet developed a seething hatred for Collingwood. After watching more of Daicos and the arrogant, silver spoon attitude he shows on field, Collingwood are now up there with Port, Sydney and Essendon as arch-enemies.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Agreed but I think the next crop of leaders is there just not mature or mature enough yet.

Wardlaw, Sheezel, LDU, Larkey, Powell and perhaps X.

We missed Jy terribly yesterday.

Powell is nowhere near that group. Currently way too inconsistent.

 

[Rooniversity]

Still salty. Would have been such a massive win.

But the first half was authoritative, skilful, smart and scintillating. Words I haven't used to describe North in a very long time. Couldn't care less who Collingwood had out or who had been ill during the week, it was still reigning premiers vs the bottom side and we tore them a new one in the first half.

We're getting it together, slowly but surely.

 

[Disco Dew]

Hats off to this pies fan being able to see the bleeding obvious.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Alot of people are mentioning that we just needed to keep the pressure up for 4 quarter's but the intensity the boys went at in the first 3 quarters just isn't sustainable. No idea what the messaging was at 3 quarter time but it had to be ball retention. Ofcourse pies were going to come hard in the 4th.

We needed our senior players (McDonald/Corr) in the backline to slow the play down and go side to side and take the momentum out of the game. I don't recall us trying to slow down the game once. I think Sheezel behind the ball in the last quarter should of been an obvious change, we weren't scoring many more goals in the 4th anyway. I'm abit concerned about Clarko's match day decisions.

Overall I think North are about two more senior players from being a consistently competitive side. The young brigade will take it from there.

I wouldn’t mind a strong, game day tactician assistant to be brought across to really challenge Clarko and provide a different perspective. I love the teaching approach but it is sometimes too set and forget in the Scott mould when things aren’t going well for us on the heat of the moment.

 

[speedy]

Clarko MUST have been tired, Will didn't look tired at all.

Didn’t trust him to run out the game because Will has proven over and over he doesn’t run out games. Has had plenty of good quarters and first halves followed by nothing in the second half.

Having said that, I don’t have faith in most of our players running out games. As evident in the last two weeks.

Clarko should have left Will on and challenged him to see it through. Poor decision.

 

[Hojuman]

Michael McGuire ( NSW state of origin coach ) has put in the call to Quaynor.
He's starting at 5/8th next Wed.night at the MCG.

 

[Samsquanch]

Lee Fisher?

Certainly he has no right to be on a football field.

 

[Only Forwards]

Lee Fisher?

Certainly he has no right to be on a football field.

He absolutely has bias against us.

 

[shintemaster]

Agreed but I think the next crop of leaders is there just not mature or mature enough yet.

Wardlaw, Sheezel, LDU, Larkey, Powell and perhaps X.

We missed Jy terribly yesterday.

I think they are there and largely mature enough. What happens though is there aren't a enough senior leaders worth their salt to cover the gaps as they tire.