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My dream, but feel free to replace Parker and Houston with ???

FB: Corr - Logue - Archer
HB: Goater - WDawson - Houston
C: Scott - Sheezel - McKercher
HF: Zurhaar - Comben - Parker
FF: Curtis - Larkey - Simpkin
Foll: Xerri - Wardlaw - LDU

Int: Duursma, Powell, Pick 2, Hardeman, Teakle/Maley
 

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Archer - Logue - ?Corr?
?Hardeman?
- Chom - ?Goater?

Kerch - Wardlaw - Scott
Xerri - LDU - Sheezel


?Duursma? - TBC TALL FWD - ?Fisher?
TBC SML FWD - Larkey - Curtis

INT: Zurhaar / Powell / Simpkin / TBC BIG DEFENSIVE MID / Wawson


Could replace any of the first three on the bench with Tucker I guess.

So about half our best 23 based on their current merits are a lock I'd suggest.

We're still lacking an elite user coming out of D50.
 
Highlighting that we need to draft/trade/sign a genuine marking CHF in 2025;

B: Archer - Logue - Corr
HB: Goater - Comben - Hardeman
C: McKercher - Sheezel - Stephens
HF: Zurhaar - CHF DRAFT/TRADE TARGET HERE - Duursma
F: Curtis - Larkey - Maley
R: Xerri - LDU - Wardlaw
INT: Simpkin, Scott, Fisher, Teakle
Sub: (From) Ford, Powell, Stephenson

Based on this list, I rate our position groups as;

Backline: 7/10
Centre/followers: 8/10
Forwardline: 6/10
Depth/interchange: 4/10
As someone who is at pains to say how poor the list is, those ratings are very generous and completely in contrast to how shit we’ve been over the last 3-4 years.
 
As someone who is at pains to say how poor the list is, those ratings are very generous and completely in contrast to how shit we’ve been over the last 3-4 years.

To be clear, I don't think any team can sniff a premiership without minimum 8/10 units across the board.

But I agree I might have been overly generous.
 
As someone who is at pains to say how poor the list is, those ratings are very generous and completely in contrast to how shit we’ve been over the last 3-4 years.
Fair IMO.

Just take a look at the backline and unless you want to rate on "potential" it's something like this:

  • Logue - Very good 7-8 out of 10 but now durability concerns as of today
  • Corr - Solild when fit and decent support 6-7
  • Archer - Great "rookie" year. Proven nothing long term. 5/10
  • Goater - Nothing but potential as of today due to injury / age 1/10
  • Comben - Lot of potential, durability concerns, not finished product and may be at the other end in 5 months 4/10
  • Hardeman - Who? 1/10 as of today

Add that up and that backline is a 26/60 rating as of today. Which is probably fair, even though there are plenty of good bits to work with.
 
Archer - Logue - ?Corr?
?Hardeman?
- Chom - ?Goater?

Kerch - Wardlaw - Scott
Xerri - LDU - Sheezel


?Duursma? - TBC TALL FWD - ?Fisher?
TBC SML FWD - Larkey - Curtis

INT: Zurhaar / Powell / Simpkin / TBC BIG DEFENSIVE MID / Wawson


Could replace any of the first three on the bench with Tucker I guess.

So about half our best 23 based on their current merits are a lock I'd suggest.

We're still lacking an elite user coming out of D50.
For completion's sake... including realistic trade and draft targets:

Archer - Logue - Corr
Goater - Comben - Hardeman

McKercher - Wardlaw - Scott
Xerri - LDU - Sheezel

Duursma - *Day - Simpkin
Curtis - Larkey - *Berry

INT:
TALL UTILITY W Dawson / Pink / K Dawson / Teakle
DEFENSIVE MID *Parfitt or Lyons / Phillips
HFF/MID Powell / Zurhaar / *Macrae or Parker
SML FWD Fisher / RHJ / *Richards or Konstanty
GEN DEF Lmac / Tucker / Fisher / Bergman

I'd love to add Dan Houston instead of one of those GEN DEF players, but I can't see him agreeing to it.
 
Now that the s***show that was season 2024 is officially over, it might be time to think about who we have, who we need and where they fit.

I realise there is a List Management thread but I'd like to look at positions only, for next year.

Not too many players pick themselves, or at least are solid enough in their preferred or usual positions but let's start with that. This assumes full recovery from any current injury and a more or less full pre-season.

B Archer Logue Corr
HB Goater Comben ---
C Scott Davies-Uniacke McKercher
HF Simpkin --- ---
F Curtis Larkey Zurhaar
R Xerri Sheezel Wardlaw
Int Powell --- --- --- ---

I don't have a spot on the field for Luke McDonald.

I've given Jy another chance. Paul Curtis has done enough this year.

Goater gets picked on promise as much as anything, but we all know what he can do. Corr has been good enough in the latter half of the season.

Thus, I have three on field and four interchange players to find in the off season.

Players not yet guaranteed a spot yet or shouldn't be:
McDonald
Duursma
Hanson Jr
Phillips
Fisher

Average players currently taking up spots:
Tucker
Stephens
Teakle
KDawson

Fringe players we will probably keep or are contracted:
Ford
Stephenson
Pink
Maley*
Coleman-Jones
George
Payne*
Drury
Bergman
WDawson
Hardeman
Goad
* possible delisting

Retired:
Shiels
Greenwood

Let go:
Thomas

Likely delistings:
Harvey*
Sellers
Lazzaro
Nyuon
Taylor*
Free
* = might get another year but unlikely

So that's 2 retirements and up to 6 delistings.

Biggest needs:
Midfield depth
CHF/CHB (interchange with Chom)
Wing

I just about totally agree with your locked in players

Though I think round 1 for Goater starting on the ground might be a stretch

B Archer Logue Corr
HB ……… Comben ---
C Scott Davies-Uniacke McKercher
HF Simpkin --- ---
F Curtis Larkey Zurhaar
R Xerri Sheezel Wardlaw
Int Powell --- --- ---

Sub Goater

In* all trade targets come off

  • Houston - HB
  • Darling - CHF
  • Parker - Int

In my team that leaves

HB Fisher
HF Ford/Dursma
Int Tucker
Int


That’s a free spot for needs based selecting

  • Ford/Dursma
  • Teakle
  • RHJ
  • Phillips
  • Stephens
  • Young KPF drafted in 2024
  • young small forward 2024
  • Pick 2 2024

Added depth Dawson, Dawson, Pink, Harderman, Maley

B Archer Logue Corr
HB Houston Comben Fisher
C Scott Davies-Uniacke McKercher
HF Simpkin Darling Dursma
F Curtis Larkey Zurhaar
R Xerri Sheezel Wardlaw
Int Powell Parker Tucker RHJ

Sub Goater

That’s a team aiming to win. And should win 5-10 games.

If it can’t win 5-10 games pack us up.

It has no first year players. 2 recent All Aust, 2 past all Aust, 3 more that were in the squad this year and should be looking to make the team next year.
 

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