Injury Blue Healers Medical Room - 2023

[Ald Gardiner]

The beauty about natural running athletes is they can come back much sooner from injury than your average player. Endurance machines like Walsh, Marchbank, Cottrell etc pretty much only have to recover, fully train for a few weeks and they can already meet running KPIs for playing AFL.

Speaking of Cottrell, he and Boyd can't be too far off playing football could they? Was reported 3 weeks ago they were completing a running program. You would think that would mean fitness wise they would be close. Jack Martin a test. Marchbank at least 3 week of rehab with a calf, surely they would know whether he is close or a couple of weeks away? Sam Durdin a test this week.

You would hope that over the next 3 weeks we will be seeing Walsh, Marchbank, Cottrell, Martin, Boyd and Durdin playing football again which is exactly what our VFL side need, they have been smashed with injuries.

This applied to Andy Walker, who in racing vernacular, was brilliant fresh!

 

[The Bighouse]

Whatever happens I don't think we will ever get a timeline for Walsh's return. I reckon he just appears in the named lineup at some point over the next 2-3 weeks.

Will be a nice surprise for the opposition.

We have some open spots on the wing, just plonk him out there for a run.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Walsh was actually pretty poor when he first came in from injury at the start of last year.

I remember him causing quite a few turnovers. Didn't have his usual touch and awareness...wasn't up to the speed of the game.

Fair point, but I still think that my statement is correct.

Disposals/stats aren't everything, but Walsh averaged over 32 disposals last year. Cuningham's highest ever is 28 iirc.

 

[Coops93]

Fair point, but I still think that my statement is correct.

Disposals/stats aren't everything, but Walsh averaged over 32 disposals last year. Cuningham's highest ever is 28 iirc.

I'm not exactly bullish on Cuninghams return but 28 from Cunners and 32 from Walsh are very different.

I love Walsh but you could make the case his impact per possession could be better, whereas Cunners is quite high impact per possession. 18 from Cunners could be a great impactful game, whereas if Walsh only has 18 he's likely hardly had an impact.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Fair point, but I still think that my statement is correct.

Disposals/stats aren't everything, but Walsh averaged over 32 disposals last year. Cuningham's highest ever is 28 iirc.

Yeah he was off by Walsh standards but still in our best half a dozen players. Got coaches votes in his first game back and BOG in his 4th.

 

[Juddernaut08]

I'm not exactly bullish on Cuninghams return but 28 from Cunners and 32 from Walsh are very different.

I love Walsh but you could make the case his impact per possession could be better, whereas Cunners is quite high impact per possession. 18 from Cunners could be a great impactful game, whereas if Walsh only has 18 he's likely hardly had an impact.

I'm not saying Walsh's worst is better than Cuningham's best.

I said Walsh's 3rd worst, is better than Cuningham's 3rd best. Just demonstrating Walsh is uber consistent and is 3-4 tiers above Cuningham to date.

Cuningham is no doubt an impact player, but the vast majority of games he doesn't crack 19+ touches. Walsh has more 30+ than Cuningham has 13+

 

[JuddgementDay]

I think if we can, and we can, why not apply the rule - if they are ready, give them one more week to get ready!

 

[Juddernaut08]

I think if we can, and we can, why not apply the rule - if they are ready, give them one more week to get ready!

If Walsh is ready, we need his run.

I'd rather Acrese and Logue play than not play. We just miss the run I think! Imagine all the run we'll get from Walsh/Acres/Hollands/Ed (and LOB maybe) in the one side. Drool

 

[Beyond Blue]

Yep... And that's why I'm hoping it's a blessing in that once we've put him back together, he stays that way.. not overly confident.... but hopeful.

Put him back together alright - from head to toe - and that’s the problem…there is always something wrong with him.

I gave up on him a long time ago so anything he does should be seen as an unexpected bonus.

Either way you can’t plan to have a successful team with blokes like Marchy unfortunately.

 

[Blue train 28]

I'm not saying Walsh's worst is better than Cuningham's best.

I said Walsh's 3rd worst, is better than Cuningham's 3rd best. Just demonstrating Walsh is uber consistent and is 3-4 tiers above Cuningham to date.

Cuningham is no doubt an impact player, but the vast majority of games he doesn't crack 19+ touches. Walsh has more 30+ than Cuningham has 13+

I’m saying Walsh’s worse is better then Cunningham’s best . If Cunningham is lucky he might be aloud to carry Walsh’s boots in for him next game.

 

[JuddgementDay]

If Walsh is ready, we need his run.

I'd rather Acrese and Logue play than not play. We just miss the run I think! Imagine all the run we'll get from Walsh/Acres/Hollands/Ed (and LOB maybe) in the one side. Drool

We’ve got enough running players - just play the fit players is my minimum criteria

Harry & CC is going to put on a show
North don’t have anyone to stop them

Relax - Blues by 25+ points

 

[Juddernaut08]

I’m saying Walsh’s worse is better then Cunningham’s best . If Cunningham is lucky he might be aloud to carry Walsh’s boots in for him next game.

boom boom. let's go.

Everyone has outliers though. The 28 possy 2 goal game which clinched the Bombers game is worse than at least one of Walsh's worse games.

 

[Juddernaut08]

We’ve got enough running players - just play the fit players is my minimum criteria

Harry & CC is going to put on a show
North don’t have anyone to stop them

Relax - Blues by 25+ points

hope you're right!

 

[Mondyboy]

DC faded fast in the VFL. You could tell it was his first game in two years. But… if he can stay on the ground… he should be looking for a gig in the seniors in the next four weeks.


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[juzza316]

I’m saying Walsh’s worse is better then Cunningham’s best . If Cunningham is lucky he might be aloud to carry Walsh’s boots in for him next game.

cunners would probably do his back bending over to tie his laces up

 

[JustaBattler]

I’m saying Walsh’s worse is better then Cunningham’s best . If Cunningham is lucky he might be aloud to carry Walsh’s boots in for him next game.

Cuningham is faster, more elusive with ball in hand and one of Carlton's best set shot kicks from 40 meters+ out on any angle you care to choose - he is also capable of making something out of nothing anywhere in the forward fifty and is a much better field kick - has Walsh covered in all those areas.

 

[Blue and Blue]

Cuningham is faster, more elusive with ball in hand and one of Carlton's best set shot kicks from 40 meters+ out on any angle you care to choose - he is also capable of making something out of nothing anywhere in the forward fifty and is a much better field kick - has Walsh covered in all those areas.

Agreed JaB, they are two very different types. We need both.

 

[FRUMPY]

DC faded fast in the VFL. You could tell it was his first game in two years. But… if he can stay on the ground… he should be looking for a gig in the seniors in the next four weeks.


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I can see him being used as a sub if form in vfl is decent enough over the next month

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[sosos]

Cuningham is faster, more elusive with ball in hand and one of Carlton's best set shot kicks from 40 meters+ out on any angle you care to choose - he is also capable of making something out of nothing anywhere in the forward fifty and is a much better field kick - has Walsh covered in all those areas.

You're probably right. But I can't remember that far back.

 

[JustaBattler]

You're probably right. But I can't remember that far back.

Got to hand it to you being funny so early in the morning is an achievement!

 

[Coops93]

Cuningham is faster, more elusive with ball in hand and one of Carlton's best set shot kicks from 40 meters+ out on any angle you care to choose - he is also capable of making something out of nothing anywhere in the forward fifty and is a much better field kick - has Walsh covered in all those areas.

The issue is how often those strengths come to the fore. Not very.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

boom boom. let's go.

Everyone has outliers though. The 28 possy 2 goal game which clinched the Bombers game is worse than at least one of Walsh's worse games.

Hey let’s look forward to both!

Walsh’s incessant running, linking and footy smarts, elevated standards, showing his team mates the way.

Cunners class, sublime touch, pace & instincts.

Sammy in the guts all day - our cake.

Cunner in bursts - our cherry.

I can not wait any more!

Bring it the f*** on!

 

[JustaBattler]

The issue is how often those strengths come to the fore. Not very.

Yep injury and absence will do that - every time.

 

[Coops93]

Yep injury and absence will do that - every time

He's had issues having a consistent impact even when healthy and given extended runs.

 

[JustaBattler]

He's had issues having a consistent impact even when healthy and given extended runs.

Does his best work when he is in the action - which is why I am sure he will be played as a HFF /mid rotation in due course. Just wait and see