Free Agency Brad Crouch [joins St Kilda as a RFA for pick 23]

[Suma Magic]

I think if the paperwork is lodged for any free agent this season then the player is gone for the compensation pick, no matter what it is.

I’m predicting that Cameron will be a trade. That may be instead of lodging the paperwork rather than after.

And I think zero chance that crouch is a trade.

 

[Marlo]

The issue I have with Crouch is that he was caught holding the bag with Cocaine (even though I firmly believe it was Stengle's coke, not his)

If It was just some weed/hash, I doubt there would be so much of a furore really.

Devil's dandruff vs Devil's Parsley

All shits n gigs

Hope the Crows get pick 2 to ruin some clubs fun

 

[MisterMarcus]

FrEe AgEnCy OnLy HeLpS ThE BiG PoWeRFuL CLubS.....

 

[Iceman!]

I'm done with this league if we finish 17th and end up with pick 4 or 5.

The system is so screwed up currently. FA compo and acadamies are far worse than priority picks ever were.


Such a ******* mess the game is in atm.

5 years at 550-600k for Ellis last year got the Tigers band 3 compo.

No way this nets them band 1

 

[1990crow]

5 years at 550-600k for Ellis last year got the Tigers band 3 compo.

No way this nets them band 1

A year older didn't get the age points. And Brouch will be 100k more.
Means band 1 sorry bud.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Devil's dandruff vs Devil's Parsley

All shits n gigs

Hope the Crows get pick 2 to ruin some clubs fun

The melts from North Fans would be amazing

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Good get for the Saints, that's going to be quite a good midfield next year.

 

[bird_man]

You make it sound easy. You have to realise that paying him $800k a year can do damage to the rest of their list. He's not Dusty Martin, he's an average midfielder. Suicide if you ask me.

We aren't paying him 800k mate

 

[danielG]

You are correct and also wasting your breath. They're emotionally invested

I think you're right...I don't really understand why a supporter can't maintain a

A year older didn't get the age points. And Brouch will be 100k more.
Means band 1 sorry bud.

Been reported offer will need to exceed 700K sorry bud.

 

[Iceman!]

A year older didn't get the age points. And Brouch will be 100k more.
Means band 1 sorry bud.

Ah yes 5 months age difference and 100k bumps it up 2 more tiers.

If the AFL gifts band 1 it has a hell of a lot more to do with ladder difference than the contract

 

[TigerTime88]

15 for Crouch straight deal?

Would be fair.

Interesting pickup for the Saints. He is in the right age bracket to give them 5 good years. If he gets injured again though then there is a lot of cash potentially sitting on the sideliner with Crouch and Hannerberry. Good player when fit, but I'm not sure he really elevates them. Would have been better holding out for a Whitfield/Kelly from GWS IMO.

 

[PrinceCharles]

People are dumb if they don’t think a large number of players in the league get on the bags in the off season. Getting on the beers kills their skinfolds, bags don’t. What do you think they are doing in Europe and the US every year? Not sight seeing. These are well off kids in their 20’s, most not well of people in their 20’s dabble. He just got caught.

You're speaking from your own frame of reference, this is not true of everyone.

 

[kreglze]

Pick 15 for Crouch would be fine. Does the FA pick accumulate with both Atkins and Crouch leaving by FA?

 

[bird_man]

Pick 15 for Crouch would be fine. Does the FA pick accumulate with both Atkins and Crouch leaving by FA?

Nope, they are separate.

 

[StringyDog]

Brad is a good pickup for the Saints, he is a good player, he will be rated higher playing in Victoria. His injuries record is also over played.

I don't support it but anyone that has been around around Football clubs know what players get up to. I doubt the incident the other week alarmed too many clubs in this particular case. He doesn't have off field issues like many others.

How is his injuries record overplayed, has played 8 seasons, 2 full season wipeouts, 2 seasons he played nearly full seasons and averaged just 13 games a season in the other 4. So over 8 year career averages playing about 1/2 a season a year

 

[bird_man]

He's a good get if we get him via FA.

If Adelaide decide to match though I hope he stays there.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS - 2020
Brad Crouch

5

Brad Crouch

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.1

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

5.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.3

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.6

5star

(Adelaide)
Zac Williams (GWS) - Band 1
Jack Viney

7

Jack Viney

Age

30

Ht

179cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.1

5star

K

9.4

4star

HB

12.6

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

5.7

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

21.8

5star

K

10.3

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

13.4

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

4.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

(Melbourne) - Re-signed with Demons
Brad Ebert

7

Brad Ebert

Age

34

Ht

189cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

8.5

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

5.2

5star

G

0.5

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.9

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.8

4star

G

0.6

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

8.2

4star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.2

3star

(Port Adelaide) - Retired

These are the only midfielders (Williams HB I know) that wouldn't have cost anyone a draft pick come this trade period.

Brad Crouch

5

Brad Crouch

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.1

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

5.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.3

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.6

5star

is the only one that's left. He's desperate to stay in Adelaide, but he'd already knocked back a contract from us based on the $$'s and years offered, which means he's at least partially motivated by money and conditions, which is fair enough.

Similar to the situation at Carlton, other clubs would have had a few years running their salary cap at the minimum, and would have a bit of coin to throw around. If you were someone like Essendon/Saints, and could offer something heavily front ended whilst protecting your draft picks, why wouldn't you?

Desire to stay in Adelaide - Strong
Desire for contract yrs/$$ - Strong
Desire for success - Strong?

No one club can offer all of these, and you can argue until the cows come home about which of these three categories he prioritises. But that's exactly what it will come down to, and no one had a clue where his preferences lie.

If I could hazard a guess I personally think a team will come in and offer a heavily front-ended 4 year contract with a trigger for a 5th, and it'll be high enough the Crows wont match. No forced trading, and it will be Saints that makes the offer. Every indicator tells me that he's not going to move somewhere like Richmond or Geelong on less coin purely just for the opportunity for success. Happy to bookmark this one!

Ok, I'll use my brain.. He won't get what you need him to get to get justify a band one compensation...The two speculated offers I've read get not even close to what you'd need. I am not sure why you think it takes me to "use my brain" given that's the evidence that's been presented to this point. That in conjunction with all the previously made point lead me to believe he's not going to get a contract that's not in line with what Adelaide would need. I could be wrong, we shall see. The consensus seems to be the Crows will be left with band two...Its not a knock on your club, its just how I see this playing out.

*coughs obnoxiously*

danielG I'll just leave this one here.

Still a bit to play out, but I don't see Saints offering something low enough that the Crows would match and force a trade..

 

[BigCat1]

15 for Crouch straight deal?

Course not. The way the media works is that if you have had success you can whip up hysterical emotions about FA.

Crouch to Cats = pick 11 or Parfitt etc. is the absolute minimum. Have picks so will pay.

Crouch to Saints = pick 21 isn’t much different to pick 15 and we love free movement.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Would be fair.

Interesting pickup for the Saints. He is in the right age bracket to give them 5 good years. If he gets injured again though then there is a lot of cash potentially sitting on the sideliner with Crouch and Hannerberry. Good player when fit, but I'm not sure he really elevates them. Would have been better holding out for a Whitfield/Kelly from GWS IMO.

Won't happen, that Pick 15 will end up around Pick 20 after compo picks added and bids on FS/NGA players come draft night.

 

[Prochard123]

Surely just over enough $ to avoid trading, St Kilda should have the $ too

 

[hilly]

The melts from North Fans would be amazing

Would be good to see a team that hasn't finished last for 48 years be penalised in the draft.

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[DT_35]

Would be fair.

Interesting pickup for the Saints. He is in the right age bracket to give them 5 good years. If he gets injured again though then there is a lot of cash potentially sitting on the sideliner with Crouch and Hannerberry. Good player when fit, but I'm not sure he really elevates them. Would have been better holding out for a Whitfield/Kelly from GWS IMO.

Weird take. Him in the midfield allows Gresham or Billings to go forward which both have shown to be great at. Kent/Likud out and we’re much better off

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

FrEe AgEnCy OnLy HeLpS ThE BiG PoWeRFuL CLubS.....

Happy to swap our FA signings to prove your point... Jez for Brad sounds good to me.

 

[SaintJunior]

Pretty embarrassing for you in the space of 24 hours if correct wow

And why’s that, think Richmonds midfield runs a fair bit deeper than ours

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Course not. The way the media works is that if you have had success you can whip up hysterical emotions about FA.

Crouch to Cats = pick 11 or Parfitt etc. is the absolute minimum. Have picks so will pay.

Crouch to Saints = pick 21 isn’t much different to pick 15 and we love free movement.

Let's not pretend that Cameron and Crouch are in the same stratosphere in terms of ability or output.