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One off heritage round..
Didn't you guys get to wear a heritage jumper as a one off dispensation in the AFL heritage rounds?

Give a club an inch, and straight away they think they are a ruler.......
Sweet, we just have to label our round 23 match with Adelaide as our heritage round and we’re good to go on the bars.
 
And there is the biggest problem in trying to find a solution for your club...
You’ve tried to explain it and it sounds ****ing ridiculous. Makes no sense. You talk in circles when we all know it is because we would be wearing the best black and white guernsey in the country. That’s the real reason.

Your b&w guernsey is shit and is the same design as north’s

By the way there is no solution for our club. So **** off.
 

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You’ve tried to explain it and it sounds ******* ridiculous. Makes no sense. You talk in circles when we all know it is because we would be wearing the best black and white guernsey in the country. That’s the real reason.

Your b&w guernsey is s**t and is the same design as north’s

By the way there is no solution for our club. So * off.
Ive explained it clearly, you just don't like the answer.
And as usual, abuse, swearing and grandoise claims seem to be the tactic taken when you can't present a creditable argument.
 
You haven’t said a single intelligent thing this whole time.

Simply retreading illogical nonsense. Just like your esteemed racist leader.

Jog on, you’re scared of us, we get it.
Another one that goes down the path of abuse and trying to belittle, rather than continue a civilized argument.
Seems there is a common pattern here...
 
Another one that goes down the path of abuse and trying to belittle, rather than continue a civilized argument.
Seems there is a common pattern here...
Poking the bear in their den and expecting to have limbs afterwards, go figure. If you want civilised arguments, then join a debating team otherwise pissoff. What ever arguments you present here, no one cares because you will never win!
 
No, but people running them can get selective memory loss...

Show me the guernseys that Port wore between 1941 and 1952. I am particularly interested in the guernsey worn in 1951.
Show me the guernsey Collingwood wore until Eddie McGuire came on board and claimed Collingwood have never ever changed its guernsey.

Also for some of those years, we literally merged with another club due to WW2.

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Every other major professional sports league in the world has teams that share colours and nobody cares. Nobody confuses teams in a way that matters.

In literally every other league in the world, it'd be #4 as you've listed here.

Port and Collingwood have very distinct identities as clubs, just as Liverpool and Manchester United do, or Chicago and Portland and Toronto, or New England and Houston. The Dolphins are about to enter the NRL wearing St George Illawarra colours.

What are you actually worried about? If we wore the bars as a full time home guernsey, what harm will befall Collingwood? What damage will be done to Collingwood's brand? What are examples of damage being done in similar cases in sport around the world? Is there even one?

This whole "give an inch and you'll take a mile" argument is trash. In every other sports league in the world it wouldn't be a negotiation, we'd just wear what we want.
As far as the NBL teams and rules of their competition is concerned, don't they have their club names/nicknames and logos written prominently across the front, and therefore the colours AND design are distinguishable? Also, isn't the rule that the clubs must wear a light colour in home games (preferably white?), and their dark colour in away games? They also have a rule where the governing body must approve the guernsey, and ensure it is sufficiently different from others

The EPL has a relegation/promotion system, and teams with many years of history, may get to play in the same division. But still, their guernsey designs are different, with sponsors names splattered across them. And aren't MU colours red and gold, and Liverpool red and white?

As far as the Dolphins in the NRL are concerned, St George have already stated "There is only one team that will wear the red "V" in the NRL. They look like they have the same issue with the jumper colour and design.

In the Queensland Cup, the Dolphins have worn red and white jerseys, with some designs including a white V.
The Dolphins heritage jumper is also red and white - the same colours as the Dragons - and Young wants to ensure the similarities end there.

He declared the Dragons’ iconic red V design off limits as the Dolphins deliberate what jersey to wear when they enter the NRL in 2023.
“There’s only one team that will wear the Red V and that’s us,” Dragons board member Young told News Corp.

“That red V started nearly 100 years ago.”
“There’s only one red V and we’re the ones wearing it,” Young said.

“The Red V is tradition and that is what this game is built on – tradition. It means everything to a lot of people. They (Dolphins) are starting fresh and I’m sure they would want their own identity.”

Found in this article:

‘Only one Red V’: Dolphins unveil first jersey amid warning from Dragons legend
 
Show me the guernsey Collingwood wore until Eddie McGuire came on board and claimed Collingwood have never ever changed its guernsey.

Also for some of those years, we literally merged with another club due to WW2.

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1659448093830.png 1897
Original design
(Lace-up version shown – Numbers not required in 1897)
1659448109489.png Current
No change for over 125 years!

You asked... Here it is..
 
No, but people running them can get selective memory loss...

Show me the guernseys that Port wore between 1941 and 1952. I am particularly interested in the guernsey worn in 1951.
Who gives a **** about 41-52? Or the magenta shit? Those jumpers have practically no sentimental value, no emotional core. Shit, our one AFL flag jumper was overstocked due to a lack of interest when we brought it back in 2014 for one game. There is only one jumper we truly care about and it's the one we've worn for almost all of our Premierships and great moments.
 
Your lack of comment on my post is interesting.
No need to comment. I know PA got royally screwed by the AFL, and more particularly, the SANFL at the time. They were used by the AFL to get a SA team in the AFL, and undermine the SANFL's refusal to enter under the terms set by the AFL (Licence payment the major issue).
We all know what SANFL then did to PA.
Anyhow, Max (can we have some decorum) Basheer can recite what he wants, but it makes no difference.
 

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Imagine being threatened by us. F****** lol.
Remember when we wore it "for the last time" (according to the racist guy who chaired their loser club for 20 years) and the world didn't cave once because maybe football supporters aren't literal apes incapable of distinguishing two entities with the same colours?
 
That you lied when you said no change for over 125 years?
Also the major change in 2000 into 2001 because big fish is afraid of small fish
What "Major" change? You think changing the number size on the back, whether the numbers are in black or in white, or adding a club logo, or adding an AFL logo are major changes? Or changing the cut of the jumper, or even removing the lace-up constitutes a change to the guernsy?

No point discussing this with you any more.

Thanks.
 
What "Major" change? You think changing the number size on the back, whether the numbers are in black or in white, or adding a club logo, or adding an AFL logo are major changes? Or changing the cut of the jumper, or even removing the lace-up constitutes a change to the guernsy?

No point discussing this with you any more.

Thanks.
If you can't see the difference between white on black and black on white.....
 
What "Major" change? You think changing the number size on the back, whether the numbers are in black or in white, or adding a club logo, or adding an AFL logo are major changes? Or changing the cut of the jumper, or even removing the lace-up constitutes a change to the guernsy?

No point discussing this with you any more.

Thanks.
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What "Major" change? You think changing the number size on the back, whether the numbers are in black or in white, or adding a club logo, or adding an AFL logo are major changes? Or changing the cut of the jumper, or even removing the lace-up constitutes a change to the guernsy?

No point discussing this with you any more.

Thanks.

You completely inverted your colour scheme in 2001. Literally every single pixel in a picture of your guernsey is different.

But who cares? You can wear whatever you want, as can any professional sporting organisation. Apart from us of course, so all we want is to enjoy the same rights as everyone else.

And we will. In time. Even if you’re still a moron.
 
These Collingwood turkeys are dumbass. Paranoia? Explains a lot. They're immature as their club.

The Port jumper design is different and the brands of both clubs won't ever blur. Leagues, starting dates, whatever etc are all nonsense insignificant reasons. What matters is that every club is honoured equally by this bias league and wears the jumper that defines them the most. That jumper should be determined by the club, and not the league or another club. For Port it's the PB. For Collingwood it's the Hawthorn/North Melbourne design.

Collingwood's pettiness is a joke. Their sponsors logos are not going to fall off their jumper if we wear the PB. They're so greedy that they don't think realistically. They don't think at all. Insecure incestrous dumbasses.
 
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Ive explained it clearly, you just don't like the answer.
And as usual, abuse, swearing and grandoise claims seem to be the tactic taken when you can't present a creditable argument.
No you haven’t - try again.

I don’t agree with anything you have said.

Tell us again why collingwood are so worried about port wearing our traditional (and superior) b&w guernsey in a showdown?

Keep going.
 
Another one that goes down the path of abuse and trying to belittle, rather than continue a civilized argument.
Seems there is a common pattern here...
Champ - because it is annoying to go around and around in circles with you.

Like I said - we don’t agree with you - we think the situation is pathetic and we think Collingwood are pathetic.

We think port is actually weak in our soft diplomacy - we want to wear our guernsey when we want - just like any other club does to celebrate their heritage.

Move on - it’s frustrating and surely you know we won’t agree? Don’t you?

And don’t do this ‘I just want to share my opinion and have it listened to’

You have - we’ve read it - you are saying the same shit over and over again and guess what - it hasn’t changed anyones position at all.

You’ve fought the good fight and I am sure Collingwood are proud of your wasted efforts. You’ve changed nobody’s mind here.

Rest now buddy.
 

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