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A "coloured swap" version isn't the Prison Bars Eddie.

You're deliberately ignoring what dirty2 and I have posted to make... some sort of point?

I'm as militant a PBs advocate as there is, it should be our full time home guernsey. And if it was, we'd have a colour swapped version as our clash kit.
 
I'm starting to think our current home kit is a better guernsey. I waver but sometimes it looks sexy as fukc.

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Our home guernsey is fine but if we switched away from it tomorrow, we wouldn't ever have a "bring back the chevrons" campaign. It's unfortunately found itself used during our worst ever era.

I certainly don't mind it at all from a design perspective and I guess design is subjective. But the PBs just make players look bigger because of the panelling and the combination of vertical and horizontal elements in the starkest of contrasting colours.
 

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You're deliberately ignoring what dirty2 and I have posted to make... some sort of point?

I'm as militant a PBs advocate as there is, it should be our full time home guernsey. And if it was, we'd have a colour swapped version as our clash kit.
My point is that a "colour swapped" version is not the Prison Bars.
 
Our home guernsey is fine but if we switched away from it tomorrow, we wouldn't ever have a "bring back the chevrons" campaign. It's unfortunately found itself used during our worst ever era.

I certainly don't mind it at all from a design perspective and I guess design is subjective. But the PBs just make players look bigger because of the panelling and the combination of vertical and horizontal elements in the starkest of contrasting colours.
Richmond went on a 30 plus year drought do you think it lessened their kit?

Reality is as much success as we had in the SANFL we also went through droughts, thrashings & GF losses in the PB's.

It's a weak argument against a design.
 
I don't mind the chevrons but the design is obviously the SA state guernsey in different colours, the back and number panel are brilliant though, and very close to that of the PB's.

I'm also of the opinion the current indigenous design with its major emphasise on a black background is excellent, and could even be better with some design tweaks.

The grey version of the chevrons as the clash jumper is also good, and is light years ahead of that absolutely dreadful ice cream vendor's crap from about 4 seasons back.
 
My point is that a "colour swapped" version is not the Prison Bars.

Nobody but you is having this argument and your arguing with 2 of the most pro-bars people on the board.

Richmond went on a 30 plus year drought do you think it lessened their kit?

Reality is as much success as we had in the SANFL we also went through droughts, thrashings & GF losses in the PB's.

It's a weak argument against a design.

Richmond had worn their guernsey for 100 years and had very successful eras prior to their drought. The chevrons have only had the Primus and Hinkley eras. Heritage matters for sports uniforms.

Purely from a design point of view, the current home guernsey is pretty good, one of the best in the league. But it's just a footy guernsey. It's not ours. It's just a classic footy design in our excellent colours.

Ignoring the fact that the prison bars are a heritage colossus, there are elements of their design that elevate it.

The wharf and pylons basis of the design representing the Port while still looking like a footy guernsey. Nobody else has anything else like it. The design in any colours is going to evoke Port Adelaide.

The elements, the front including both horizontal and vertical stripes and a large block of white on the back for a number panel, in a high contrast white on black, serve to make the guernsey and therefore player look bigger and more imposing.

Geelong are probably the only club that achieve a similar affect with their bold, high contrasting hoops and long established "wellness" program.

It's subjective though. Without the heritage consideration there isn't much between the designs.
 
Nobody but you is having this argument and your arguing with 2 of the most pro-bars people on the board.



Richmond had worn their guernsey for 100 years and had very successful eras prior to their drought. The chevrons have only had the Primus and Hinkley eras. Heritage matters for sports uniforms.

Purely from a design point of view, the current home guernsey is pretty good, one of the best in the league. But it's just a footy guernsey. It's not ours. It's just a classic footy design in our excellent colours.

Ignoring the fact that the prison bars are a heritage colossus, there are elements of their design that elevate it.

The wharf and pylons basis of the design representing the Port while still looking like a footy guernsey. Nobody else has anything else like it. The design in any colours is going to evoke Port Adelaide.

The elements, the front including both horizontal and vertical stripes and a large block of white on the back for a number panel, in a high contrast white on black, serve to make the guernsey and therefore player look bigger and more imposing.

Geelong are probably the only club that achieve a similar affect with their bold, high contrasting hoops and long established "wellness" program.

It's subjective though. Without the heritage consideration there isn't much between the designs.
I would 1000x prefer us to wear the PB's shown on the earlier page than the chevrons, on the condition that on ANZAC Day we use the 1919 black and white version.


And to those of you arguing "its not the prison bars" well, enjoy the next 20 years of chevrons.
 
I would 1000x prefer us to wear the PB's shown on the earlier page than the chevrons, on the condition that on ANZAC Day we use the 1919 black and white version.


And to those of you arguing "its not the prison bars" well, enjoy the next 20 years of chevrons.
Valid idea, just quietly I really love the blacked out prison bars in the fashion worn from 1912-16 and 1919-20. Arguably more than the standard PBs we wear at SANFL level and in the AFL right now. Wearing the 70s-90s PBs in ANZAC round would be nice but an era accurate one that also simultaneously represents the 1914 Invincibles? Sign me up!! Looked good when worn in 2003 Heritage Round and in the SANFL in 1914 (I assume this was the same version the AFL knocked us back from wearing that year initially).
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Nah I want the Standard Chartered bars of my youth that Scotty wore.

I love that jumper.

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By all means that should undoubtedly be what’s worn in Showdowns for a multitude of reasons, but when we’re honouring the ANZACs in that round, an era specific jumper is more suitable imo
 
I would 1000x prefer us to wear the PB's shown on the earlier page than the chevrons, on the condition that on ANZAC Day we use the 1919 black and white version.


And to those of you arguing "its not the prison bars" well, enjoy the next 20 years of chevrons.

Have absolutely no problem with 20 years of the chevrons or whatever we deem to be our home jumper.

Definitely have a problem with changing the design of our traditional/historical jumper design.

No other club has a “just add another colour and you can wear it” clause when they want to wear their old jumpers. They also don’t have to get approval from another club.
Why should we?

Call me a dinosaur/old fashioned whatever but for me it’s B&W PBs or we don’t wear them at all……


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If you give the afl an initial compromised pb jumper design, they will knock it, tell us it's not enough of a contrasting design, and keep knocking version after version until we show them a black and teal jumper. A compromise now will be like losing the war.
 
If you give the afl an initial compromised pb jumper design, they will knock it, tell us it's not enough of a contrasting design, and keep knocking version after version until we show them a black and teal jumper. A compromise now will be like losing the war.
Not saying to compromise.. we should be allowed our black and white PB's but every team should have a clash/away Guernsey.
 
By all means that should undoubtedly be what’s worn in Showdowns for a multitude of reasons, but when we’re honouring the ANZACs in that round, an era specific jumper is more suitable imo
I think we need just one pb jumper. If we start wanting variations then it will keep getting knocked back even more.

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I think we need just one pb jumper. If we start wanting variations then it will keep getting knocked back even more.
There are numerous Prison Bar guernseys, 1914, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s etc, but all of them are black and white.
 
2023 Prison Bar Guernsey 🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍
  • Just got my PBs in the mail today.
  • Size wise would say fits better without being too tight around the underarm area compared with the 2022 limited release PBs at the start of the year
  • Hopefully in the future we can get the MG logo in white like the 2022 edition and the AFL logo in a monotone white colour to blend in with the guernsey

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