Preview Cats V North Sun April 14 1pm @ GMHBA

[cats_09]

FTFY

Cheers - I blame typing while walking at work

 

[thejester]

Amazing that the Saints fans I knew early on had Stanley as the next Nick Riewoldt and we take him and turn him into a Premiership ruckman

I think what makes this funnier is that Riewoldt’s philosophy is If You Are Not Winning You Just Need To Work Harder, and he clearly saw Stanley as someone who was too soft to embrace that and thus was doomed to failure. Ten years on Riewoldt not only has to face up to the fact Stanley won a flag and he didn’t, but also that that fact points to the inherent flaw of his life’s guiding principle.

 

[Jackington]

Reckon this needs to be a big percentage banger, and hope we don't do the usual and cruise once getting to five or six goals in front.

Nightmare 9 week stretch coming after before a reasonable run home. Win this one and win big, go 4-5 at worst in the middle, and come home strong.

 

[Footy Smarts]

I think what makes this funnier is that Riewoldt’s philosophy is If You Are Not Winning You Just Need To Work Harder, and he clearly saw Stanley as someone who was too soft to embrace that and thus was doomed to failure. Ten years on Riewoldt not only has to face up to the fact Stanley won a flag and he didn’t, but also that that fact points to the inherent flaw of his life’s guiding principle.

Every time Reiwoldt talks about Stanley the bitterness drips off him. It's like because Stanley had amazing athletic attributes he should've become a superstar and taken the Saints to a flag. Instead Geelong recognised his strengths and weaknesses and turned him into a long term contributor to eventually win a premiership.

 

[iameviljez]

I think what makes this funnier is that Riewoldt’s philosophy is If You Are Not Winning You Just Need To Work Harder, and he clearly saw Stanley as someone who was too soft to embrace that and thus was doomed to failure. Ten years on Riewoldt not only has to face up to the fact Stanley won a flag and he didn’t, but also that that fact points to the inherent flaw of his life’s guiding principle.

Huh? I have never heard Riewoldt be bitter toward Stanley like that.

And to be fair, his work ethic made him the best tall forward of the 2000s. Deserved a flag and tbh should have gotten at least one.

 

[Gazza Greatness]

Huh? I have never heard Riewoldt be bitter toward Stanley like that.

And to be fair, his work ethic made him the best tall forward of the 2000s. Deserved a flag and tbh should have gotten at least one.

Agree with all said iameviljez: but I'll go further with Nick Riewoldt in conversation on more than one occasion speak nothing but in glowing terms of Reese Stanley, if anything over the top and as far as flags are concerned there would be no two players more deserving of a premiership medallion around there necks than Nick Riewoldt and Lenny Hayes as both out and out champions and bled for their club.

 

[standupand]

Agree with all said iameviljez: but I'll go further with Nick Riewoldt in conversation on more than one occasion speak nothing but in glowing terms of Reese Stanley, if anything over the top and as far as flags are concerned there would be no two players more deserving of a premiership medallion around there necks than Nick Riewoldt and Lenny Hayes as both out and out champions and bled for their club.

All I'll say is I hope you're not talking about 2009 medallions.

 

[Finknottle]

unpopular take coming. I reckon it wouldnt be all that bad if we dropped this one at home. Lose to a lessor team at home would be a big smack to the face to keep the team on the edge. If we do make the finals, we wont be playing north again anyway.

But we do play NM later in the year. Strongly disagree with your theory. It's never a good time to drop a game. I don't mind the occasional ugly win.

 

[catsfootyfan89]

unpopular take coming. I reckon it wouldnt be all that bad if we dropped this one at home. Lose to a lessor team at home would be a big smack to the face to keep the team on the edge. If we do make the finals, we wont be playing north again anyway.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Huh? I have never heard Riewoldt be bitter toward Stanley like that.

And to be fair, his work ethic made him the best tall forward of the 2000s. Deserved a flag and tbh should have gotten at least one.

Reiwoldt wrote in his book about how frustrated he was with Stanley not becoming the player he hoped. As though that was the difference between him running a flag or not.

When he was in the media a few years ago it was so obvious every time he spoke about Stanley the bitterness and frustration would resurface. He never mentioned him without saying how athletically gifted he was, how inconsistent he was and how he had never made the most of his ability.

The culmination was the 2021 PF where Stanley was coming off a great performance in the semi against Mumford. Reiwoldt talked about it as the most important game of Stanley's career. Stanley was good and basically broke even with Gawn but Gawn kicked goals when resting forward (ie when not opposed to Stanley) and most of our team was terrible so we were thumped. Reiwoldt made a big deal about Stanley being beaten and how he can't be relied upon, etc, etc. It was pretty embarrassing from Reiwoldt to be honest.

 

[Finknottle]

Riewoldt is a coach's dream. He gives 100% every time he steps onto a ground, inspires others with his courage, yadda, yadda, yadda. Stanley is the sort of player where the coach earns his money. He's talented but he's up and down, plays good games and then not so good ones, lacks the confidence of a guy like Riewoldt. However, there are a lot more Stanley types in the typical team and getting the most out of them is secret to having a successful team. I loved the way Nick Riewoldt played but perhaps his inability to understand some of the players in the team played a part in St Kilda not quite reaching their potential.

 

[Gazza Greatness]

All I'll say is I hope you're not talking about 2009 medallions.

That round 14 showdown in 2009 of the Cats and Saints where the two clubs were the very first teams in VFL/AFL history to go into a game both undefeated on 13 wins each and with a record crowd at Etihad Stadium of 54,455 was a game of epic proportions and definitely the best home and away game I've witnessed and the hype leading into the game was phenomenal.

Just an awesome game to watch and to be there LIVE, the crowd atmosphere was electric and pulsating for the 'entire match' and deserved to be a draw in the end as game and players on both sides were that good. Just don't mention Mark Blake, for Brad Otten's unfortunately missed the game along with Stevie J for memory and Saints ruckman Michael Gardiner kicked 4 goals including the winning goal and deservedly ended up best man on ground.

Wiki - "Sometimes now known as the 'Battle of the Unbeaten', the round 14 game retains a legacy as one of the AFL's greatest home-and-away matches".

 

[Gunf]

Hmm only 1 change surprises me.

Unless we use the sub to manage someone older i see Clark or COS being subbed out

 

[STPer18]

Team Selection | Round 5

The final team is in for Sunday's clash the the Roos

www.geelongcats.com.au

GEELONG

In: C.O'Sullivan
Out: J.Kolodjashnij (managed)

Emergencies: Kolo, Mannagh, Neale

 

[iameviljez]

Reiwoldt wrote in his book about how frustrated he was with Stanley not becoming the player he hoped. As though that was the difference between him running a flag or not.

Are you sure that the second sentence follows the first? Stanley wasn't even an AFL player when StKilda was in flag contention.

But I cannot blame Roo for being frustrated with Rhys Stanley. He's not wrong - Stanley is a great athlete, who has struggled for consistency throughout his career.

He never mentioned him without saying how athletically gifted he was, how inconsistent he was and how he had never made the most of his ability.

I actually agree with all of that. His 2022 season and premiership medal covers quite a few sins; he has been lucky to survive at times and only really stayed on Geelong's list because Zac Smith couldn't make it work. Not many players survive being dropped to VFL level in the prime of their career as much as he has.

The culmination was the 2021 PF where Stanley was coming off a great performance in the semi against Mumford. Reiwoldt talked about it as the most important game of Stanley's career.

Again, I agree with Riewoldt. Gawn was fresh off a BoG performance against Geelong where he led a huge fightback and kicked the winning goal. He then followed it up with five goals and five clearances with another BoG performance (along with Petracca). The acid was on Stanley after he had been given a bath in the QF, so it was a massive game for him, against the best ruckman in the league.

Saying that Stanley has had great athletic attributes and yet been really inconsistent on output is not a controversial statement in the least. He is absolutely right that Stanley has not been reliable. He's had some very good games, from time to time, but has always been a bit susceptible to an absolute pantsing as well.

 

[iameviljez]

All I'll say is I hope you're not talking about 2009 medallions.

They probably should have won that one, but I am glad they did not

 

[Art Vandelay_]

North need to stop being so damn uncompetitive.

SDK
Dempsey
COS

all debut v North, and could all end up dropped the following week.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I reckon you will win the meat tray

Does that come with vegan options....

 

[catempire]

unpopular take coming. I reckon it wouldnt be all that bad if we dropped this one at home. Lose to a lessor team at home would be a big smack to the face to keep the team on the edge. If we do make the finals, we wont be playing north again anyway.

Every now and then I get to wheel this one out…

Some takes are unpopular for a reason.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Very happy to see Hawkins and Cameron both stay in. Feast boys. Feast.

 

[Gunf]

In what world are we dropping SDK or Dempsey?

Think they are pointing out those players FIRST games were against North and dropped straight after it.. Basically we use north to give young players a taste as it has a very low chance of biting us in the ass

 

[lettheboysplay]

Think they are pointing out those players FIRST games were against North and dropped straight after it.. Basically we use north to give young players a taste as it has a very low chance of biting us in the ass

ahhhh - my apologies. That makes sense. Got all worked up for nothing.

Cats by 65.

 

[Gazza Greatness]

Are you sure that the second sentence follows the first? Stanley wasn't even an AFL player when StKilda was in flag contention.

But I cannot blame Roo for being frustrated with Rhys Stanley. He's not wrong - Stanley is a great athlete, who has struggled for consistency throughout his career.

I actually agree with all of that. His 2022 season and premiership medal covers quite a few sins; he has been lucky to survive at times and only really stayed on Geelong's list because Zac Smith couldn't make it work. Not many players survive being dropped to VFL level in the prime of their career as much as he has.


Again, I agree with Riewoldt. Gawn was fresh off a BoG performance against Geelong where he led a huge fightback and kicked the winning goal. He then followed it up with five goals and five clearances with another BoG performance (along with Petracca). The acid was on Stanley after he had been given a bath in the QF, so it was a massive game for him, against the best ruckman in the league.

Saying that Stanley has had great athletic attributes and yet been really inconsistent on output is not a controversial statement in the least. He is absolutely right that Stanley has not been reliable. He's had some very good games, from time to time, but has always been a bit susceptible to an absolute pantsing as well.

Reese Stanley's football with the Cats over the journey reminds a little of the girl with curl or a Jekyll and Hyde but to his credit he's become a far more consistent player in his latter years and of course he's now proudly a 'Geelong Premiership Player' which no doubt will live in his memory for the rest of his days.

Oddly enough, in days yonder he actually did play three excellent games of footy that I remember that he could hang his hat on, with one against Gawn/Dees/Kardinia Park.... another against Grundy/Pies/MCG.... and finally NicNat/Eagles/Kardinia Park who were all leading AFL ruckman at time, so when he was good he was very good but bloody hell when he was bad he was horrid!

There was a little girl, who had a little curl
Right in the middle of her forehead
When she was good, she was very, very good
But when she was bad, she was horrid

 

[thejester]

Huh? I have never heard Riewoldt be bitter toward Stanley like that.

And to be fair, his work ethic made him the best tall forward of the 2000s. Deserved a flag and tbh should have gotten at least one.

I’ve never heard him be bitter but I’ve absolutely heard him give some pretty gratuitous criticism of Stanley’s work rate.

 

[Baudolino]

unpopular take coming. I reckon it wouldnt be all that bad if we dropped this one at home. Lose to a lessor team at home would be a big smack to the face to keep the team on the edge. If we do make the finals, we wont be playing north again anyway.