Preview Changes vs Demons (Sat 1.45pm 22/8)

[House_of_Dahl]

Bevo: so Brucey let's talk about some ruck time
Bruce: but but you promised

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

Bevo: so Brucey let's talk about some ruck time
Bruce: but but you promised

Trengove: He makes lots of promises, Josh.

 

[Bodicifer]

OUT: English (ankle), West, Gardner, Lloyd
In: Trengove, Cordy, Crozier, JJ

If Cordy and Crozier are ready to go of course. Trengove to ruck. JJ goes forward.

 

[Doggies_13]

I really think we are better with Naughton solo. They were both competing for the same deep ball when they were in the side. Either Bruce needs to get on his bike and be the lead up style/get out kick up this wing or the system wont work. Give me Naughtons paddock inside 50 with Cavarra, Dale and Wallis at this feet

The reason we look better with just one is because of their lack of chemistry, due to naughtons injuries they couldn’t train together over preseason so they haven’t learned how to work together and how each other plays etc

 

[weltschmerz]

English wait-and-see for Dees

Luke Beveridge provides the latest on Tim English's ankle injury.

www.westernbulldogs.com.au

 

[Dazb86]

The reason we look better with just one is because of their lack of chemistry, due to naughtons injuries they couldn’t train together over preseason so they haven’t learned how to work together and how each other plays etc

They play very similar style games. Both fly for anything kicked in their direction. Need to be coached to be very mindful of each other to not only not crash into each other but to drag their defenders away from the contest. I'd prefer Naughton deep. Has more tricks than Bruce's brute strength style.

 

[dogwatch]

The reason we look better with just one is because of their lack of chemistry, due to naughtons injuries they couldn’t train together over preseason so they haven’t learned how to work together and how each other plays etc

And since the season started they've had only 5 games together. Those games included Rd 1 when we had a mere 20-something i50s and Rd 4 when Naughton started hitting his straps against Sydney but injured his ankle well before half time. And then the Rd 11 game against Brisbane where (like Rd 1) Naughton was coming in a bit rusty.

I don't know whether Naughton and Bruce will ultimately be the right combo but I do agree we haven't given it much of a chance to work yet.

I feel for Bruce because he could have snagged a few himself against Adelaide but now there will be an argument not to bring him back because we kicked 16 without him.
Let's face it. Most of the other 16 clubs would have kicked 16 goals (or more!) playing with an 8 day break against an undermanned, out of form Adelaide who had flown in that morning after playing another game just 5 days earlier.

 

[Dazb86]

In - Vandemeer
Out - West

If Cordy is back I'd bring him in for Gardner.
If Croziers back I'd bring him in for Roarke Smith

 

[BEaston]

Lloyd was horrendous on the weekend. Hasn't been that good all year. He's first out for me.

 

[BarryMorgan]

Lloyd was horrendous on the weekend. Hasn't been that good all year. He's first out for me.

Looks slow to react and was a tad selfish at times.

 

[mattwa]

Whats Lloyds contract status? Has he got a year left? Happy to keep him on as depth next year but id be suprised if he was in the best 22 this time next year

 

[doggies ftw]

Sam Lloyd would be one of the most selfish players I have seen. Hardly ever gives it to some in a position, nearly always takes the impossible shot and is always hanging around for the easy handball for a goal.

Agreed. Look I like a greedy small forward, we could use someone who takes it on themselves to just kick the goal sometimes but doesnt help that Lloyd is now utterly garbage. He’s slow, he’s not clean, offers no pressure and he doesn’t even kick his goals anymore. He’s cooked.

 

[Virgin Dog]

Whats Lloyds contract status? Has he got a year left? Happy to keep him on as depth next year but id be suprised if he was in the best 22 this time next year

Signed him on for 2021 before the start of this season. Oops

Lloyd adds another year

One-year contract extension for forward Sam Lloyd

www.westernbulldogs.com.au

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[Dogsman16]

Yep Lloyd's done. Wouldn't have him in the top 25 or so players right now.

Jeez he's slow. And the rise of Wallis has brought about the lack of requirement for his type.

Can stay on the list and be depth. Thats it.

 

[Whoyagot]

Out: R Smith - In: JJ
Out: S Lloyd - In: Laith VDM
Out: R West - In: Josh Bruce

If English is injured then bring in sweet. If Crozier is ready then Gardy out.

last chance for Gardy otherwise

 

[Northernsoul74]

Hayes, Dickson impress in scratch match

Daniel Giansiracusa provides a wrap up of our match simulation on Saturday afternoon.

www.westernbulldogs.com.au

 

[Bazza Bulldog]

We have to have a second ruck option this week, Melbourne's mids are too good to give armchair service to? I think English stays in, he was used sparingly yesterday, had an 8 day break last week and another good break this week. It comes down to Trengove or Sweet one would think?

English will not play due to injury is my guess. This is why I have suggested the above.
I agree with 2 rucks, particularly with Sweet making his debut.

 

[Dale4captain]

If English is out, Sweet & Bruce both need to come in.

 

[Triple Baileys]

One word:

Trenners.

 

[ringa5]

Someone else suggested it.
He was originally a back.
We invested a lot of money.
So why not put Bruce back.
Better than Gardner maybe.
With Jamarra to partner Naughton next year.
Good time to try something different.

 

[mattwa]

Someone else suggested it.
He was originally a back.
We invested a lot of money.
So why not put Bruce back.
Better than Gardner maybe.
With Jamarra to partner Naughton next year.
Good time to try something different.

Wouldn't trust his field kicking nor his agility atm. Would rather schache in this week tbh to take lever away from naughton as the third man up

 

[hatescaptcha]

Someone else suggested it.
He was originally a back.
We invested a lot of money.
So why not put Bruce back.
Better than Gardner maybe.
With Jamarra to partner Naughton next year.
Good time to try something different.

That was me - Definitely think it could work.
He won’t be out muscled often. He at the very least can compete and as you say, can’t be worse than Gardner.

Schache seems to work well with Naughton and then we’ll hopefully have Jamarra next.


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[Virgin Dog]

I think I'd prefer Schache down back to Bruce. Neither can take a mark this year, but at least Schache has elite field kicking.

Bruce plays forward no matter what

 

[Oliver G]

And that’s why you can’t rely on the stats sheet to judge performance.

The zero turnovers is only by the grace of god. His kick to Wood was one of great risk and little reward. I’d be uncomfortable having Daniel taking those chances, never mind someone with a fraction of his ability.

The other kick I50 not counted as a ‘turnover’ was much worse and should have resulted in a goal against.

I wouldn't say by the grace of god, even though our hearts are in our mouths whenever he has the ball officially/legally 5 of 6 disposals were effective and he didn't give away a goal which we can't complain about.

As for "The other kick I50 not counted as a ‘turnover’ was much worse and should have resulted in a goal against.", there is a lot should've in footy, Buddy should've disposed of the ball before being tackled by Morris in the GF, but I'm not complaining that he didn't.

At the end of the day Gardner was clearly not our worst yesterday and until Cordy is available I can't see him losing his spot.

 

[Boof09]

Gardner wasn't great but he was far from terrible. He went at 83% and 100% by hand, 0 turnovers, 4 spoils and 1 intercept mark.

As for his matchups...
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Note that goal from Taylor Walker was from a free kick against Dunkley even though Gardner was his matchup.

He wasn't terrible because he only touched it 6 times, one of those kicks should of resulted in an Adelaide goal and he is playing against a bloke who is passed it and another kid. I'll stand corrected but under pressure against a good side I think he will be found wanting but clearly the MC don't believe that!