News Charlie Dixon signs for Lobethal

[Schulzenfest]

I don’t think he called me an idiot. He defended Hinkley and slammed the supporter that put the sack Hinkley sticker up on port road.

I haven’t looked into or invested too much into anything else he might’ve said that could’ve potentially offended a small section of the supporter base.

He's said plenty more than that, which you've just admitted to not knowing about or caring to find out about. If your position is just based on your own wilful ignorance, you could have said so and saved me the time of engaging with you.

 

[Skindy]

Nothing he said was that bad, he stood up for his coach who was targeted by a public stunt at the time. I would've thought less of Charlie if he didn't speak up for & defend someone who was in his corner.

Similarly his performances over his time at Port have been more than admirable. He's come back from a pretty horrific leg injury and given his all to the club. There are not many players in the comp over the past 8 years who would've performed better in Dixon's role in our game plan. All these things are separate from the fact that:

• The club has developed an ineffective game plan that is hyper focused on directing our ball movement through Charlie
• The team as a whole have underperformed over the past 9 years

This is a result of poor coaching and a poor administration, Dixon does not deserve the personal vitriol he cops on here and the individuals who harp on about it have become a cringeworthy meme.

In conclusion, Sack Hinkley.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Nothing he said was that bad, he stood up for his coach who was targeted by a public stunt at the time. I would've thought less of Charlie if he didn't speak up for & defend someone who was in his corner.

This has been said a million times, but I suppose I'll say it again even though I'm probably wasting my time.

As much as I'd love to hear one of the players come out and say 'nah he's a spud, sack him', realistically that's obviously never going to happen, and I don't hold anything against players who publicly defend Hinkley.

Boak, Gray, Wines, Rozee, Butters, JHF and countless others have all defended Ken over the years, and nobody holds it against them. That's because not one of them ever attacked the fans. Charlie, on the other hand, has attacked the fans on multiple occasions. So I'm gonna go ahead and give him the same respect he gives me.

 

[Skindy]

This has been said a million times, but I suppose I'll say it again even though I'm probably wasting my time.

As much as I'd love to hear one of the players come out and say 'nah he's a spud, sack him', realistically that's obviously never going to happen, and I don't hold anything against players who publicly defend Hinkley.

Boak, Gray, Wines, Rozee, Butters, JHF and countless others have all defended Ken over the years, and nobody holds it against them. That's because not one of them ever attacked the fans. Charlie, on the other hand, has attacked the fans on multiple occasions. So I'm gonna go ahead and give him the same respect he gives me.

The only reason those player's don't attack the fans is because they are media trained robots. Boak, Gray, Wines etc have all implicitly endorsed the coach by playing out their careers at the club. They undoubtedly would've felt resentment towards the fans who attack the club and their coach. Charlie being a passionate, less-refined media performer doesn't make him functionally any different in my opinion.

 

[Schulzenfest]

The only reason those player's don't attack the fans is because they are media trained robots. Boak, Gray, Wines etc have all implicitly endorsed the coach by playing out their careers at the club. They undoubtedly would've felt resentment towards the fans who attack the club and their coach. Charlie being a passionate, less-refined media performer doesn't make him functionally any different in my opinion.

Then your opinion is absurd.

 

[Freak Dodgeball Accident]

Whether you think Dixon is finished or not, surely he can't possibly be considered for AFL selection next game after a one handball game?

You would think so, but seeing as Jed has been selected all year after similar stat lines...

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I dont hate Dix and think he has put his body on thr line repeatedly for the club. He's probably been the biggest victim of player mismanagement and poor coaching at the club.

That said, in terms of who I think has done more good:
Stickerman > Dixon

 

[EskimoPAFC]

But yes you do have to respect the fans. Without our $ none of you have jobs.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Nah Fcuk it. Encourage him to play at the red line* every match until he permanently breaks something. Just keep injecting him with pain killer every quarter.

* Drivin' with Dixon.

Hinkley is trying to clock that early 80s Toyota Corolla.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

Marshall can't take a contested mark so bomb it to Todd doesn't work. Georgiadis is too mobile so it's hard to bomb it to Mitch and if you say bomb it to Ollie the players will get confused which one.
Given we need to bomb it to someone it has to be Charlie. You know this is the logic of our coaching panel

Bomb it to Jed. That would be a good laugh. He's a heartless mark and consistently hears footsteps like a dog hears rolling thunder.

 

[PowerLil]

I'll preface this by saying I've been consistent in my opinion of Dixon. Hinkley has always driven the us against them mentality; coach and players v supporters that is, with all his "wrap our arms around each other" bullsh*t.

All I want to hear from the players is we play for the jumper and the supporters. Stfu otherwise.
In all the years I've been watching footy, I've never seen or heard anything like it.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I'll preface this by saying I've been consistent in my opinion of Dixon. Hinkley has always driven the us against them mentality; coach and players v supporters that is, with all his "wrap our arms around each other" bullsh*t.

All I want to hear from the players is we play for the jumper and the supporters. Stfu otherwise.
In all the years I've been watching footy, I've never seen or heard anything like it.

Remember when us against them used to be Port vs everyone else...

Instead of Port vs Port like today?

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I'll preface this by saying I've been consistent in my opinion of Dixon. Hinkley has always driven the us against them mentality; coach and players v supporters that is, with all his "wrap our arms around each other" bullsh*t.

All I want to hear from the players is we play for the jumper and the supporters. Stfu otherwise.
In all the years I've been watching footy, I've never seen or heard anything like it.

It really is simple.

Unfortunately the selfishness starts from the top down and infects all things down at the club.

When a player is coming out and taking a crack at the fans, it is just the lowest of the low.

 

[Nemisis]

Didn't Westhoff win the BnF in his second last season? His one season too long was pretty surprising.

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Correct. We let Westhoff hang up the boots midway through the season. He was down on form but he could have been handy in the finals.

 

[Fizzler]

Nobody in 30 years will be telling their kids about the days of Charlie Dixon.

Tredders? Obviously.
Schulz? Yep.
Butcher and what could have been? Without question.
But Dixon? What is there to say? Not much fault of his own, but he's played in an era where his coach made it impossible for key forwards to be exciting or successful. Slagging off the fans just means he won't be remembered as a cult hero like Butcher or Westhoff either.

This era will be looked back on as a dark age for the club. Players who weren't out and out superstars will be forgotten. Hinkley will only be remembered as our worst coach of all time. David Koch our worst chairman.

My kids will know all about Dixon because he’ll be a cautionary tale for a couple of reasons including why it’s important not to idolise someone too much, what happens when you overstay your welcome, why you shouldn’t bite the hand that feeds you, and several other things I’m sure of it.
I worry that the majority of Port fans will look back at the Ken/Koch era fondly because we made a few prelims (as has every club at least once bar Essendon, St Kilda and Gold Coast) and Charlie’s career fondly because he looked big and scary and had a big beard. You could almost put your house on it happening. We know the victors write the history books and that’s why Ken and Koch get more credit for saving the club than Duncanson and the others who were involved in the One Club merger and the move to AO. Here’s hoping our next administration can correct the way people see the ones in charge now.

 

[TeeKray]

This discussion is a little esoteric. Dixon will be remembered as a good player but not a great player. He will be remembered as a warrior but one who played in a poor team.

The idea that anyone outside this forum will remember him less fondly than Jay Schulz

Jay Schulz

Age

40

Ht

193cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.5

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

G

1.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

3.6

1star

K

2.4

1star

HB

1.2

2star

M

1.4

2star

T

0.2

3star

G

0.8

4star

is wishful thinking.

 

[wgt]

when all is said and done he's just another Hinkley brown-noser, thats how he will be remembered. He made is bed so now he can lie in it

 

[1954]

In many years of watching footy at Alberton oval I never saw any Port player bother to get as involved with opposition supporters who were taking the p*** as Chuck did in a game for the Maggies about 5 or 6 years ago.

It happened at least 2 or 3 times in the first half when he came to the interchange bench, and had me wondering where the bloke's head was at.
He didn't appear to do it in the 2nd half, so maybe someone got the message to him at half time to play the game and not worry about d***head oppo barrackers.

 

[Portology]

In many years of watching footy at Alberton oval I never saw any Port player bother to get as involved with opposition supporters who were taking the p*** as Chuck did in a game for the Maggies about 5 or 6 years ago.

It happened at least 2 or 3 times in the first half when he came to the interchange bench, and had me wondering where the bloke's head was at.
He didn't appear to do it in the 2nd half, so maybe someone got the message to him at half time to play the game and not worry about d***head oppo barrackers.

Interesting anecdote. At least in that case his anger was directed at opposition fans, which seems more reasonable than taking potshots at your own club’s fans.


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[Willsy10]

I dont hate Dix and think he has put his body on thr line repeatedly for the club. He's probably been the biggest victim of player mismanagement and poor coaching at the club.

That said, in terms of who I think has done more good:
Stickerman > Dixon

it's hard to take this thread seriously with nonsense like this.

 

[Willsy10]

Nobody in 30 years will be telling their kids about the days of Charlie Dixon.

Tredders? Obviously.
Schulz? Yep.
Butcher and what could have been? Without question.
But Dixon? What is there to say? Not much fault of his own, but he's played in an era where his coach made it impossible for key forwards to be exciting or successful. Slagging off the fans just means he won't be remembered as a cult hero like Butcher or Westhoff either.

This era will be looked back on as a dark age for the club. Players who weren't out and out superstars will be forgotten. Hinkley will only be remembered as our worst coach of all time. David Koch our worst chairman.

Nah, Dixon won't be remembered as much as John Butcher lol.

I'd argue he will be remembered more outside this forum than Schulz. Played more games and kicked more goals over his career and at least has 1 AA jacket.

 

[simba_]

now I remember him sticking it up Norwood fans after a win one year (maybe same game?). actually he blew 'em kisses, I almost never want to say anything bad about him ever again now.

 

[The Hobo]

Let’s just kick a dog while it’s down like we did with Jonas last year. I can’t flipping stand the bs in this thread.

His body is failing him, he is most likely finished but can’t we show him a bit of respect on the way out?

I personally don’t hold any grudges against him for sticking up for his coach like others do. And as far as I’m concerned he has played his role asked of him to the 100% of his effort, ability and body limitations. For that, I respect him and appreciate the service he has given the club.


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Yup, that's my view on it. He's battled through injury time and time again throughout his career for the club. He's always given 110%, and still does, despite not being able to move.

I agree that his time is up, but it's on the coaches to tap him on the shoulder. He will front up (as he should) whilst he keeps getting selected.

I believe we will see Lord in the side soon enough. Whether that be one more game for Charlie post bye, or straight in.


As for his comments defending the coach - i'm not too bothered by that. If it's read in context, he's clearly directing it to a specific group of people. It's not like he's gone out and called every Port supporter stupid.

 

[RossFC]

At Port
Schulz 2.2 goals per game
Dixon 1.6 goals per game

 

[The Hobo]

At Port
Schulz 2.2 goals per game
Dixon 1.6 goals per game

If Charlie was as accurate a shot at goal as Schulz, that would be far closer I imagine.

In any case, the way we use Charlie is different to how we used Schulz.. So not really a direct comparison