News Clarkson to step away from football indefinitely

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AFL trying to spin their way out of another scandal and negotiate an outcome, just like they did with the Bombers drug issue and its blowing up in their face.. Clarko should have realised that the AFL will take anyone down to keep a clean skin image and taking the North job was frought with danger.

Gotta feel sorry for North, the AFL should have prevented them from appointing Clarko knowing this was hanging over his head but now they are left to pick up the pieces with an already broken club.
 
Hawthorn need to admit their many failures properly. The sort of thing Essendon have still failed to do re their scandal.

Absolute horseshit.

Essendon underwent their own independent review at the very start of the allegations, the results of which were reported publicly and were damning.

They accepted all conduct charges from the AFL without contest and received the biggest penalties in the history of the game - millions in fines, lost draft picks, disqualification from finals, 12 month suspension for the head coach, fines for other officials.

Essendon's coach, CEO and President made multiple public apologies for the failures that led to what happened.

If that is not admitting failure, then admitting failure does not exist. You couldn't be more categorically wrong.

The only figure who didn't accept the charges was Dr Bruce Reid, who elected to contest the charges in front of the AFL Commission. The charges were immediately dropped.
 

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Hawthorn need to admit their many failures properly. The sort of thing Essendon have still failed to do re their scandal.

Hawthorn should also make reparations to individuals, groups, the AFL community as a whole for massive and lasting damage done in their name, for their benefit, at their hand, at the expense others, and to the detriment of the game.

Hawthorn have benefitted from their own bad behaviour - there should be recompense commensurate with those facts as well. There are consequences for such terrible failures.

The club should be heavily sanctioned.
Look, I love watching Hawthorn do badly, but punishing them for having lax player protection processes in place will not resolve anything for the players at Hawthorn or anywhere else.

I'd much rather see an AFL-wide improvement of player and coach welfare. Ideally, it would be AFL-led and run so that there's an AFL welfare officer at each club who the player can speak to to help them manage getting help, understanding cultural differences, manage anything else going on. We need to get away from clubs ruling the lives of very young players where the club are put ahead of the player.
 
Smart move. Exactly what Hird should’ve done in the same situation, unfortunately.

He’ll be back.
Huh? How is this the same situation??????

Hird's team at Essendon were proven to be running a systematic performance-enhancing drug program. Idiots s still trying to blame others for this and canonise Hird are utterly stupid.
 
Huh? How is this the same situation??????

Hird's team at Essendon were proven to be running a systematic performance-enhancing drug program. Idiots s still trying to blame others for this and canonise Hird are utterly stupid.

I don’t think anybody’s being canonised or blamed.

Hird was the subject of a years-long “investigation” by the AFL regarding what he’d done and what he was responsible for. It took years before any sort of “conclusion” or outcome was reached.

Clarkson is in the identical situation.

Trying to go through this stuff while also coaching an AFL club is futile and damaging for the club. The AFL and the media play dirty and they will again here.

I would say North have talked Clarkson into stepping down for both his own sake and club’s. It’s the smart move and Hird should’ve done the same. Pride stopped it happening - you need to forget individual pride and focus on winning games of footy.

If you can’t see the blatantly identical situation then I can’t help you.
 
I'm a bit confused. If he's done nothing wrong then why is the investigation remotely stressing to him? If anything he should be welcoming the investigation.

Think about it

If he had nothing to hide he would have come and addressed it

But he has left it lingering and now evidence proves his misconduct.
 
You can’t win in this situation.

Hird did the opposite and was public enemy #1 because he wouldn’t follow the AFL’s narrative.

When you say the AFL's narrative, you mean ASADA's. The AFL threw itself in front of ASADA to negotiate a lettuce leaf punishment and everyone at Essendon spat in the AFL's face and cried victim. Essendon attempted to derail the process with it's Federal Court Challenge, on procedural grounds, got laughed out of court, shrugged, and called it a 'free hit'. 3 months later, They're whining and demanding the case be expedited so any punishments would be served over the offseason. Pursued a bitter public media campaign against ASADA and then wondered why ASADA wouldn't immediately acquiesce to it's demands. ASADA came in flopped it's dick out and slapped everyone at Essendon in the face with its big meaty member. To this day people at Essendon still complain about their treatment. The evidence, i.e 'I saw a spreadsheet' never materialized, and the key people involved have only further sullied their names and relegated themselves to uncivilized company.

Meanwhile James Hird got a foot back in the door. He immediately tried to jump above his station, instead of being an assistant for a few years, and, upon been rejected and realizing there was no soft/ easy option, dummy spat and left football of his own accord. It puts a full stop on what everyone thought about the people involved. Essendon got hoodwinked by some Charleton's and dodgy characters, the board was weak as piss and had no idea of how to run a football club, and people in positions of power who had never been told no at any stage of their lives arrogantly thinking that they were more important members of society/had more power than the reality.
 
Hawthorn have much to be accountable for.

Let's hope they are properly reprimanded, and bear the weight of their behaviour, governance failures, cultural problems, avoidance, and the destructive ripple effects it is having on the lives of all involved.
Yep, let's show clubs that no one should ever look after player welfare ever again. Chuck it all under the rug. Makes the AFL look bad when they **** up their own investigation, clearly it was on Hawthorn to involve someone that is not an employee of the club.

Everyone showing their priorities here.
 

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AFL is a boys club that is incompetent. Can’t manage the hawthorn situation and allowing north to collapse while starting a new team in a league that’s grass roots is shrinking to soccer and basket ball.
 
Hawthorn need to admit their many failures properly. The sort of thing Essendon have still failed to do re their scandal.

Hawthorn should also make reparations to individuals, groups, the AFL community as a whole for massive and lasting damage done in their name, for their benefit, at their hand, at the expense others, and to the detriment of the game.

Hawthorn have benefitted from their own bad behaviour - there should be recompense commensurate with those facts as well. There are consequences for such terrible failures.

The club should be heavily sanctioned.

Essendon had a review and acknowledged they made mistakes.
 
Think about it

If he had nothing to hide he would have come and addressed it

But he has left it lingering and now evidence proves his misconduct.
Hang on. Whilst I am very pro Aboriginal side come football and society, and have been a very vocal Goodes supporter, I am a bit perplexed as to why the individuals whom have accused AC haven’t come out and really wanted to take this all the way in a court of law? Saying this stuff is fine if it’s happened, it really is, but you’d want to get it right and you’d want to go the yards of seeking compensation for trauma etc.

Why haven’t we seen any of this? Are they not allowed to due to court proceedings? If it’s simply just AC being accused, then it’s salacious slander without it being verified in the appropriate arena.

He might be totally guilty. So in that case nail him and Hawthorn to the cross and really follow through.
 
I don’t think Hawthorn and certainly not North should be punished for governance failures.

To date the only person who merits any form of punishment is Jeffrey Gibb Kennett. He orchestrated this complete and utter debacle And sought to protect his own ample backside.

He should have his Golliwog collection confiscated and be permanently banned from attending the footy.
 

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