List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion

[Masked Magician]

Ralph reporting JDG has had the old contract offer reinstated - 2 years guaranteed with automatic 2 year extension if behavioral clauses are met. $800k per year. JDG will stay.
Grundy - friends saying he is so motivated that he’s telling them he’ll win the Brownlow next year.
If he’s that motivated I would not trade him.

Motivated to win an individual award... exactly why he is getting pushed out the door!

 

[Good Horse]

If we reach the point where we have been connected with every single player in the league at some point does it open a hole in space time and fling us into an alternative universe?

I figure we are two days, three tops from that point by now.

 

[Doc1763]

Motivated to win an individual award... exactly why he is getting pushed out the door!

If he plays well enough to win the Brownlow, we'll go very close to winning the flag, wouldn't you think?

 

[Apex36]

Motivated to win an individual award... exactly why he is getting pushed out the door!

Lmao, thanks for the hot take MM. needed a good laugh tonight.

 

[HFF]

BEEG’s mail on the money it seems

 

[AmericanMustard]

Wait, Grundy is going to be the 2023 Brownlow medallist? Extra first round pick thanks Melbourne

 

[neilk]

Wait, Grundy is going to be the 2023 Brownlow medallist? Extra first round pick thanks Melbourne

The Brownlow will not define him.

 

[No SPIN]

Motivated to win an individual award... exactly why he is getting pushed out the door!

And here I am thinking personal motivation is a critical element for success in any athlete whether in a team or individual sport.
Silly me.

An AA Ruckman hungry for redemption sounds like a massive plus if he stays going into 2023.

 

[Quicky]

I'm not trying to be ridiculous about it but Titch is a lot slower than Sewell ever was and doesn't have the same sideways movement as he once did (following his leg fracture). His (Titch's) kicking is restricted (slow up and unders) and its one of the main reasons he kicks sideways and backwards so much, he HAS to safe kick. He's always had a quicker brain than Sewell and he will attract plenty of ball and use his great hands....but he's not going to get a team moving forward from stoppage quickly anymore (which is the way Sam Mitchell wants his team to play).
He is also limited position wise, he can only be of any benefit as an inside mid (admittedly something we lack) but he'll slow our transition every time he's involved in a chain.
If he was still a "valuable" inside mid...you don't think someone as astute about midfield play as Sam Mitchell would have kept him?

Those quick hands to De Goey, Crisp, Daicos, Pendles will help us a lot.

 

[Horaceg]

AFL 2022: Latest trade, free agency and contract updates​

Collingwood withdrew its contract offer to Jordan De Goey after his Bali antics, but the deal has been ticked off again by the Magpies’ board – with some key conditions.
@RalphyHeraldSun

2 min read
September 5, 2022 - 6:00PM



Collingwood is preparing to put Jordan De Goey’s withdrawn contract back on the table in a deal which would offer him $3.2 million over four seasons if he avoids off-field controversy.

De Goey looked like the qualifying final matchwinner against Geelong with two classy goals in a stunning 26-possession eight-clearance, nine-tackle display until Gary Rohan’s late mark and goal won the game for Geelong.

The Herald Sun understands the Magpies are prepared to offer him the deal they took off the table after his Bali antics, which was a two-year guarantee with a behavioural trigger for a further two seasons.

Currently on a deal of around $750,000, De Goey would be handed a pay rise to $800,000 a season and, while that would not be the seven-figure salary he has hoped for, it would still be handsome reward for his on-field feats.

The Collingwood board is prepared to tick off that deal as long as the behavioural conditions are written into De Goey’s contract.

Jordan De Goey dominated against Geelong in the qualifying final. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images

The talks could kick off again as soon as next week if the Pies lose to Fremantle, with Collingwood having committed to postponing discussions until its season is over.

De Goey pleaded guilty to second degree harassment but dodged a conviction over last year’s New York nightclub incident and directed a $10,000 AFL fine to the Salvation Army.

He was also fined $25,000 (fully suspended) for pulling aside the top of a woman at a Bali nightclub as he revealed his ADHD diagnosis.

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But Collingwood believes De Goey continues to make progress in his path towards avoiding some of the distractions that have seen him fail to maximise his eight-season career.

De Goey said after the Bali fine he was continuing to seek help for his diagnosis.
“Late last year, I was diagnosed with ADHD and I am trying to become more aware of why I make mistakes that I do. I have again made a mistake – this is an ongoing journey for me – and I remain absolutely committed to changing,” he said.

St Kilda’s incoming chief executive Simon Lethlean said recently the Saints board had approved the club’s desire to chase De Goey. Essendon was also reported as a potential suitor by the Sunday Herald Sun.

De Goey will have to decide whether to take a guaranteed contract, which could be worth up to $4 million over five years, or work for his contract security at the Pies.

Like Richmond’s Dustin Martin, De Goey has the rock star persona and brand appeal that means he will be richly rewarded over his career for playing at a big Melbourne club playing sold-out finals.

Jordan De Goey’s future remains up in the air. Picture: Michael Klein

He also believes Collingwood has a good chance of winning premierships in future seasons.

He posted on Instagram this weekend with a photo of the Collingwood team lining up for the national anthem before the Geelong final with the caption: “Brothers”.

De Goey missed training on Monday as he battles a sore AC joint, but is expected to play against Fremantle on Saturday night.

Collingwood’s $3 million, five-year free agency offer that will land Dan McStay is also looking a rosier proposition after his excellent performance in the ruck against Richmond.

Brodie Grundy looks increasingly likely to move to a rival club, with Melbourne the strong favourite, so the Pies will need to develop a ruck battery in his absence.

Darcy Cameron, Mason Cox and forward-ruck Nathan Kreuger will be joined by McStay, with Adelaide’s Billy Frampton also likely to join the club and capable of playing ruck as well as key posts up forward and in defence.

When the say the Collingwood Board are prepared to tick it off, I think they actually mean this Collingwood Big Footy Board

 

[domus]

I'm not trying to be ridiculous about it but Titch is a lot slower than Sewell ever was and doesn't have the same sideways movement as he once did (following his leg fracture). His (Titch's) kicking is restricted (slow up and unders) and its one of the main reasons he kicks sideways and backwards so much, he HAS to safe kick. He's always had a quicker brain than Sewell and he will attract plenty of ball and use his great hands....but he's not going to get a team moving forward from stoppage quickly anymore (which is the way Sam Mitchell wants his team to play).
He is also limited position wise, he can only be of any benefit as an inside mid (admittedly something we lack) but he'll slow our transition every time he's involved in a chain.
If he was still a "valuable" inside mid...you don't think someone as astute about midfield play as Sam Mitchell would have kept him?

So, our coach is not astute and has no understanding of what his team needs?

 

[neilk]

When the say the Collingwood Board are prepared to tick it off, I think they actually mean this Collingwood Big Footy Board

The only one that matters.

 

[domus]

Motivated to win an individual award... exactly why he is getting pushed out the door!

If that's true it disappoints me. Where was that attitude at the start of every season? How about being motivated to help your team win a flag?

 

[Quicky]

If that's true it disappoints me. Where was that attitude at the start of every season? How about being motivated to help your team win a flag?

It makes me think Grundy's ego's been pricked by getting shopped around.

 

[Horaceg]

Difference is that the club were actually interested in those players. Is there anything pointing towards us being interested in Weed other that one single unsubstantiated BF rumour?

It’s a big no to the Weid, even knowing who his Grandfather was and his father he still chose to be a Melbourne supporter.

plus, more on offer from a

 

[Apex36]

It’s a big no to the Weid, even knowing who his Grandfather was and his father he still chose to be a Melbourne supporter.

plus, more on offer from a

He was actually a Richmond supporter.

 

[domus]

It makes me think Grundy's ego's been pricked by getting shopped around.

Clearly. I've no doubt he has felt on the outside all year as we have gone on our magical run and it must hurt to hear the club is willing to trade you on top of the injury. When you are injured, you basically don't exist in the eyes of the coach and team. It's ruthless but true. They say Leigh Matthews completely ignored players who had long term injuries as he saw no point in wasting time speaking with them when they could no longer contribute to the team. Brutal. But if it's true he is all fired up to prove us wrong perhaps saying he will help Melbourne to win another flag would be a better way to express it.

I've always questioned Grundy's hippy "footy isn't everything" persona from the moment he held us over a barrel with that contract.

 

[No SPIN]

If that's true it disappoints me. Where was that attitude at the start of every season? How about being motivated to help your team win a flag?

You better ring Clarko and tell him to retract his public statements that there’s more to life than winning flags.

 

[domus]

You better ring Clarko and tell him to retract his public statements that there’s more to life than winning flags.

Words are cheap. Clarko looks like he's knock off his grandma to win a flag judging from the holes he punched in the walls and jaws he broke.

 

[No SPIN]

Clearly. I've no doubt he has felt on the outside all year as we have gone on our magical run and it must hurt to hear the club is willing to trade you on top of the injury. When you are injured, you basically don't exist in the eyes of the coach and team. It's ruthless but true. They say Leigh Matthews completely ignored players who had long term injuries as he saw no point in wasting time speaking with them when they could no longer contribute to the team. Brutal. But if it's true he is all fired up to prove us wrong perhaps saying he will help Melbourne to win another flag would be a better way to express it.

I've always questioned Grundy's hippy "footy isn't everything" persona from the moment he held us over a barrel with that contract.

You’re on fire tonight
The market puts a price on a player, and the club decides whether they want to play.
GWS will have to beat 7x. $750 for Taranto, which they may have seriously considered if they had Cap Space.
No different to Coll, with Grundy except we had the Cap room.

The market put Coll over a barrel not Grundy.

 

[No SPIN]

Words are cheap. Clarko looks like he's knock off his grandma to win a flag judging from the holes he punched in the walls and jaws he broke.

It just proves my point that you can be hyper competitive while still keeping life in perspective.

 

[Horaceg]

He was actually a Richmond supporter.

Even worse

 

[JuniorB]

Clearly. I've no doubt he has felt on the outside all year as we have gone on our magical run and it must hurt to hear the club is willing to trade you on top of the injury. When you are injured, you basically don't exist in the eyes of the coach and team. It's ruthless but true. They say Leigh Matthews completely ignored players who had long term injuries as he saw no point in wasting time speaking with them when they could no longer contribute to the team. Brutal. But if it's true he is all fired up to prove us wrong perhaps saying he will help Melbourne to win another flag would be a better way to express it.

I've always questioned Grundy's hippy "footy isn't everything" persona from the moment he held us over a barrel with that contract.

He once said he wanted to be a one club player, so if he is fired up, he should shave a bit off the $1m/yr and help Collingwood to our next flag.
The we might think he is worth that money.

 

[JuniorB]

He was actually a Richmond supporter.

No wonder he's no good!
How could you do that if The Weid was your Grandfather & your dad played in black and white?

 

[soreplums]

He once said he wanted to be a one club player, so if he is fired up, he should shave a bit off the $1m/yr and help Collingwood to our next flag.
The we might think he is worth that money.

He could have signed for 5 years and not demanded 7