List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion

[HFF]

Saw this on extreme black n white
We need four things...
1. Another defender to release Moore
2. Another KPF to create a real contest
3. A magical small forward at his feet
4. Another clearance mid

I reckon it's spot on and it looks like we're aiming to do a budget version of that
1. Frampton
2. McStay
3. Hill
4. Fiorini

If we are losing Grundy but can get Logue and the 4 above it's not all bad.

I like what we are doing in those targets but we dont need Logue who will cost to much in $$$ and trade.
I would rather take picks to the draft,

 

[adammania9]

Saw this on extreme black n white
We need four things...
1. Another defender to release Moore
2. Another KPF to create a real contest
3. A magical small forward at his feet
4. Another clearance mid

I reckon it's spot on and it looks like we're aiming to do a budget version of that
1. Frampton
2. McStay
3. Hill
4. Fiorini

If we are losing Grundy but can get Logue and the 4 above it's not all bad.

Switch Fiorini for Titch and we’re talking

 

[gouki88]

Switch Fiorini for Titch and we’re talking

We can quickly generate the list space if we lose Chugg, Brown x2, Madgen, Kelly, and Grundy (?). The last name probably being the key to it all with how much extra coin we'd be operating with.

 

[ThePhantom777]

Switch Fiorini for Titch and we’re talking

Yeah Mitchell is a good short term option.

He averaged 34 disposals and polled 25 Brownlow votes in 2021!

Starting from 2022 his last 6 seasons he's played 21, 22, 17, 24, 22 and 26 games. Impressive.

 

[KillerMagpies]

Had a real good chat with a GWS senior player.
Bobby Hill to Pies is DONE. LOCK IT IN. The only possible change will be to go to Norf to play with his cousin, who is moving from the ‘Aints.
Also Hopper has only been interested in the Tigers. That is, Tigers are gunning for Hopper AND Taranto. Hopper to Cats was news to my GWS mate… it’s been the Tigers from the very start.

My source was perfect, re Hopper.

 

[Apex36]

Sure, if you want to disagree with psychological consensus, be my guest.

Can you please point to this psychological consensus? Because last time I checked, ADHD isn’t a mental health issue, it’s a psychological disorder, much like Autism. And it is classed as a learning disability. So you’re wrong on both fronts on this one.

 

[MagpieJoel]

If he does leave, that's pretty pathetic. What a cop out.

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

I don't think either of Hopper or Taranto are worth 700+ for 7 years.

They’d look cheap in our team.

 

[KillerMagpies]

We get at least one first rounder for Grundy and a late first/early second for Henry?
GWS want 2 first rounders for Taranto?
Biggidy-Boom!

 

[VinnieB]

I hadn’t had a gay urge until I read your posts Vinnie

You even type in a gorgeous way

you're welcome.

 

[KillerMagpies]

If he does leave, that's pretty pathetic. What a cop out.

Our first and Henry for Hawks first and Mitchell? Yep! Do it!

 

[gouki88]

Can you please point to this psychological consensus? Because last time I checked, ADHD isn’t a mental health issue, it’s a psychological disorder, much like Autism. And it is classed as a learning disability. So you’re wrong on both fronts on this one.

Per the American Psychiatry Association, it is a mental disorder. Now you're just getting into useless semantics - the main point of difference between a mental disorder and a mental illness is the origin of the condition. For the most part, they are interchangeable terms.

Mental illness is an umbrella term for any and all condition that impacts thought, behaviour or mood.

 

[Unknown Identity]

Convince me......Macrae and Callum Brown are also brilliant at VFL level. Macrae i still believe in.

Fiorini will be 26 next season.

Seems like we are going further and further down our shopping list.

Show me when either of those guys put up 39 touches 2 goals, 15 tackles and around 17 clearances in a game.

Just needs the opportunity and midfield time.
Can seriously find the pill.

Have him feeding Nick Daicos stoppages.

 

[MagpieJoel]

Can you please point to this psychological consensus? Because last time I checked, ADHD isn’t a mental health issue, it’s a psychological disorder, much like Autism. And it is classed as a learning disability. So you’re wrong on both fronts on this one.

My daughter has adhd.

It's not a mental health illness, however there is a very high correlation of people with adhd also suffering anxiety and depression.

 

[Jen2310]

If he does leave, that's pretty pathetic. What a cop out.

Riley Beveridge said this morning on SEN, he hadnt heard any hawks connection. There is nobody really in front. And its still 50/50 up in the air.

 

[Copeland]

Just read a piece on Billy Frampton

17

Billy Frampton

Age

28

Ht

201cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.1

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

0.7

3star

MG

99.0

2star

D

8.5

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

0.5

1star

MG

99.0

2star

D

9.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.0

3star

MG

107.0

2star

,a Crows coach,basically praising his last 18 months as a tall defender.
Had a big year in the crow seconds.Last couple of games excellent and getting better.
There was a recent pic and he has changed body shape. Lost the body fat and bad blond haircut.
According to the piece he is almost certain to play for us

 

[VinnieB]

I don't think either of Hopper or Taranto are worth 700+ for 7 years.

Who really knows how this is structured? Could it include incentives? Or is it say $5m over 7 years and a large chunk is paid in Yr 2 when Riewoldt and Cotchin are gone along with Edwards and a couple of others this year? Apart from Dusty and Lynch (maybe Prestia is on the same amount), I doubt they have many players on big $$. Your cap is there to be used. Just a case of making it work for you.

 

[MagpieJoel]

Riley Beveridge said this morning on SEN, he hadnt heard any hawks connection. There is nobody really in front. And its still 50/50 up in the air.

I hope he stays.

 

[Jen2310]

I hope he stays.

Me too.

 

[Apex36]

Per the American Psychiatry Association, it is a mental disorder. Now you're just getting into useless semantics - the main point of difference between a mental disorder and a mental illness is the origin of the condition. For the most part, they are interchangeable terms.

Mental illness is an umbrella term for any and all condition that impacts thought, behaviour or mood.

As someone who’s son has a disorder, I take exception to this. These are not useless semantics, and you clearly have very little understanding of the subject. I’m going to ask you to stop please, because your explanation is bordering on offensive.

 

[Apex36]

My daughter has adhd.

It's not a mental health illness, however there is a very high correlation of people with adhd also suffering anxiety and depression.

Correct. These illnesses aren’t necessarily experienced by all people with ADHD, but they often go hand in hand with both ADHD and Autism. Nice to hear from someone who understands.

 

[gouki88]

As someone who’s son has a disorder, I take exception to this. These are not useless semantics, and you clearly have very little understanding of the subject. I’m going to ask you to stop please, because your explanation is bordering on offensive.

Then explain the difference between a disorder and an illness. Because most psychological and mental health peak bodies that I have seen use the terms interchangeably, and explicitly contend that there is no difference clinically.

 

[MyManLynch]

We can quickly generate the list space if we lose Chugg, Brown x2, Madgen, Kelly, and Grundy (?). The last name probably being the key to it all with how much extra coin we'd be operating with.

 

[Jen2310]

My daughter has adhd.

It's not a mental health illness, however there is a very high correlation of people with adhd also suffering anxiety and depression.

My brother has ADD. Had to take medication for it as a child/teenager. But if you ask him now as an adult, it never existed. But he has substitued medication for alcohol or vaping to control his moods.

 

[MagpieJoel]

My brother has ADD. Had to take medication for it as a child/teenager. But if you ask him now as an adult, it never existed. But he has substitued medication for alcohol or vaping to control his moods.

Yeah, meds are important. There is also a high correlation of adhders who abuse substances when not taking meds.

Btw, it's all adhd now. There are three types.

Adhd inattentive type is the old add.

Adhd hyperactive is what was generically called adhd.

And then there is adhd combined, which is both of the above. This is what my daughter has.