List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[VinnieB]

Bewildering!

Houston is arguably the best kick in the game (certainly kicking out of defence) but apparently we don’t need him because we’ve got 5-gamer Parker and 0-gamer DeMattia coming into our backline mix.

He was only AA in 2023 and 2024.

 

[Spuddd]

No love for HH or Will Parker?

HH maybe, but he hasn’t solidified a role yet

Parker… should have stuck to cricket

 

[Scodog10]

You're dreaming if you think you can get Houston with 3 years left on his contract for a F1 and Noble. That's basically the price we paid for Schultz and Houston >>>>>>> Schultz.

Houston is close to Petracca levels trade cost and there is a reason we no longer talk about Petracca as a target

What you’re really saying here is that you don’t think we can get 12 for Noble because our F1 and 12 is going to be better than any competitor aside from North. If Rioli is getting 6 then Noble gets 12.

In a normal market Houston and Petracca aren’t far apart, but there’s a rawness to the Petracca one that would make Melbourne particularly difficult to work with not to mention that Port would still have the golden trio. Take Petracca from the Dees and it’s time to rebuild.

 

[gtrain23]

Bewildering!

Houston is arguably the best kick in the game (certainly kicking out of defence) but apparently we don’t need him because we’ve got 5-gamer Parker and 0-gamer DeMattia coming into our backline mix.

It’s so cooked isn’t it

 

[Ugene41]

What you’re really saying here is that you don’t think we can get 12 for Noble because our F1 and 12 is going to be better than any competitor aside from North. If Rioli is getting 6 then Noble gets 12.

In a normal market Houston and Petracca aren’t far apart, but there’s a rawness to the Petracca one that would make Melbourne particularly difficult to work with not to mention that Port would still have the golden trio. Take Petracca from the Dees and it’s time to rebuild.

If you think Noble is worth pick 12, Rioli pick 6, then Houston is worth pick 2-3 at least. The only one who can satisfy that is North who have offered their F1.

Seriously have a read of what you've been saying. You say Houston would instantly be our second best player behind Naicos. Do you then think we would be willing to trade out any lesser players like Moore/JDG for a F1 projected around pick 10 in a weak draft plus whatever draft capital on traded from a Noble equivalent? It would be the equivalent of us trading Moore to Carlton for their F1 and Kennedy.

Realistically we're not getting Noble for pick 12 without other picks involved and most likely our F1. We would do well to get Pick 12 and 20 for Noble and our F1. That's barely more than we gave up for Schultz and not enough for Houston.

 

[Vankri]

He was only AA in 2023 and 2024.

No one is saying we don't need him. It's that we can't afford him because we have no draft capital to trade. If we did, we might still be in the conversation for Petracca.

If Schultz cost us pick 10 and a second rounder. What will 2x AA Houston cost when we've already traded out pick 10? We're not getting him for F1 and Noble.

I mean you’re not projecting a real ‘want’ vibe so sounds like you wouldn’t even want to part with one first rounder.

If we were seriously interested there are ways to make it work. Trade extra capital to get access to pick 12 this year, trade our future 1st with later picks coming back so we have capital for McGuane etc. We can get creative with it.

Anyway it doesn’t sound like that’s the way the club is going, so be it. But let’s not pretend we’re not missing out on an elite player.

And actually if I can’t appeal to your rational brain let’s try the emotional one. What is the biggest thing that Carlton struggles with with their gameplan? It’s creativity off half back. It’s either boundary kick to Curnow/Mckay/TDK or it’s a 1-2 with Saad with a predictable running pattern. Put Houston there and assuming Cripps stays at his level and unfortunately they’d actually contend next year… now if we get Perryman and it forces Port to keep Houston it’s a job half done

 

[upnsmoke]

Bewildering!

Houston is arguably the best kick in the game (certainly kicking out of defence) but apparently we don’t need him because we’ve got 5-gamer Parker and 0-gamer DeMattia coming into our backline mix.

Almost everyone wants a Ferrari, but almost everyone only have money for a Kia.... in this case you just make sure you buy the right Kia.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Once again, Houston. Not Lord.

We have a problem.

 

[cfc19902010]

Can't really give him anything that Hawks can't.. He's not coming straight into our best 22.

No point. They'll get Tomlinson for nothing.

Sure you're not getting him confused with Frampton?

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