List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[ElliottsMaggies]

I don't think having Schultz or not having him would of changed our 2024 fortunes.

Regardless of Ginnivan.

But Schultz will contribute going forward over next 3 seasons but we did over pay.

I didn't say it would have.

... we're not allowed to talk about this on the Trade thread anymore.

 

[Seedsfan]

So Brisbane have an academy kid expected to go top 20 and yet he played for the Sandringham Dragons.

How does that work?

So they get priority access and also have the benefit of a "Queensland" kid playing elite u18 football in Victoria.

Nice work if you can get it.

Played the start of his junior career up there

 

[Apex36]

Oh vinnie. Coleman was way better in that role to the point he had become the best in the comp at it. Zorko was exposed on quite a few occasions as being unable to defend when he had to. They would have played Coleman in that role every day of the week instead of Zorko

Zorko went AA in that role this year, so you’re going to be hard pressed convincing anyone that Coleman would have been that much better than him.

 

[swoop42]

Played the start of his junior career up there

What does that mean?

He's been living and playing football in Victoria for a number of years now?

 

[Apex36]

Played the start of his junior career up there

Massive rort.

 

[manicpie]

Zorko went AA in that role this year, so you’re going to be hard pressed convincing anyone that Coleman would have been that much better than him.

Zorko got a lucky break, the way coleman was going he would been AA also. We were very lucky coleman didn't play in the GF last year, he was flying

 

[danielnajdek]

So Brisbane have an academy kid expected to go top 20 and yet he played for the Sandringham Dragons.

How does that work?

So they get priority access and also have the benefit of a "Queensland" kid playing elite u18 football in Victoria.

Nice work if you can get it.

Luke Hodges son is an Academy Player which is even more bullshit. He should be father son every day of the week. AFL just let shit like this through to the keeper.

 

[Seedsfan]

Luke Hodges son is an Academy Player which is even more bullshit. He should be father son every day of the week. AFL just let shit like this through to the keeper.

No way he wouldn’t go to the Hawks

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Zorko got a lucky break, the way coleman was going he would been AA also. We were very lucky coleman didn't play in the GF last year, he was flying

He did play in the 23 GF..

 

[loki04]

... we're not allowed to talk about this on the Trade thread anymore.

Given I don't live on here 24/7, and had to catch up 15 pages or so. I was unaware of Kym Jong un's declaration of what can and can't be posted or responded to in here... my bad.

 

[Jen2310]

What does that mean?

He's been living and playing football in Victoria for a number of years now?

Many prospects get a scholarship to board in melb, not everyone takes it up.

Suns had a prospect, Caleb Nancarrow, he boarded in melb but played for the chargers.
Believe GWS had a similar prospect a year or so ago.

 

[gerryg400]

Zorko got a lucky break, the way coleman was going he would been AA also. We were very lucky coleman didn't play in the GF last year, he was flying

He did play.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Given I don't live on here 24/7, and had to catch up 15 pages or so. I was unaware of Kym Jong un's declaration of what can and can't be posted or responded to in here... my bad.

That's not a very nice way to address the mods.

 

[bunter]

Crikey, that is unfortunate.We had a kid in school named Richard Head but that poor bugger is up there.

I worked with a German bloke called Horst Schmitt.

 

[manicpie]

He did play in 23 GF..

He did too. He won Lions best finals player last year and came second in the norm Smith. My memory is fading

 

[Bianconeri]

I think clubs have just finally cottoned on that going to the draft is almost pointless when it’s the most shambolic system in world sport

They should just abolish the draft and let clubs develop their own players.

 

[manicpie]

He did play.

Old age

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

He did too. He won Lions best finals player last year and came second in the norm Smith. My memory is fading

Must be time to watch the replay again

 

[Seedsfan]

What does that mean?

He's been living and playing football in Victoria for a number of years now?

According to play AFL he played on the Sunny Coast from 2013-21. 2022 he played under 16s in Vic for St Bedes/Mentone then made Sandy u/16s and vic metro.

In 2023/24 he now played rep footy for Queensland while playing Sandy Dragons. The only listed involvement with the Lions academy is 23/24.

But it doesn’t look like he made any rep side until he came to Vic although those years were covid affected

 

[manicpie]

Must be time to watch the replay again

I've watched it so many times but I think I'm just mesmerised by us to take much notice

 

[gerryg400]

Old age

I’m as old as you. I think you’re just one-eyed.

 

[manicpie]

I’m as old as you. I think you’re just one-eyed.

Yes, very proud one eyed pies supporter

 

[doofdoof]

If we knew at draft time AJ, would have a poor season, and that Brodie and McStay would miss with injury, while Kreuger was not up to it, we may have gone a different way.

Many knew AJ wasn't up to it and Krueger has always been made of glass. Brodie and McStay are both closer to the end that the start.

Planning ahead and taking a KPF to develop over another outside mid made all sorts of sense at the time.

 

[Bianconeri]

That’s assuming that Hine had those two on his board at those points. In 2015 both Harry McKay and Charlie Curnow were taken after Weideman, and McKay in particular was a typical Hine selection being one of the youngest players in the draft (24th December birthday).
2016 was a bit of a poo draft but there were a few players we could have taken, Jy Simpkin being one that stood out.
So yeah I get what you’re saying but ultimately the metric you’ve given is almost as flawed as what you’re arguing against.

Given the quality of that draft, Shai Bolton could have still been on top of our board that early.

 

[FromTheBoundaryLine]

I've watched it so many times but I think I'm just mesmerised by us to take much notice

We gave him nothing to kick to so your oversight is understandable