Opinion Commentary & Media VII

[danj]

Codswallop is such a great word.

Yeah just ask blackshadow

 

[Augustine]

I think it has been better. The LDU one is stiff but generally its the throw thats cooked, “incorrect disposal” … heres a solution for you AFL … REMOVE the “Intent” shit.

The rules themselves are actually quite straightforward.

1. If you’re tackled legally with prior opportunity to dispose it’s a free kick. Umpire has to make a judgement call on prior. But usually this is the easiest one to call.

2. If you get tackled without any prior opportunity you still have to make an attempt to kick or handball it. If you don’t attempt this, it’s a free. Umpire has to make a judgement call on if you’re making a legitimate attempt.

3. You can never dispose of it illegally. You must kick or handball whether you’re being tackled or not. Dropping, throwing, fake “attempting” to handball - you can’t do it. Free kick for illegal disposal.

4. The ball is allowed to incidentally “pop out” of a tackle. Umpire has to make a judgement call as to whether you’ve illegally disposed it or if it’s popped out naturally in the messiness of tackles (at the moment they’re WAY too lenient on this). Also this is irrelevant if there was prior.

5. If the ball is bouncing around under a maul of players you can’t drag it under a tackle. Instant free.

6. If there was a) no prior before the tackle, b) a legitimate attempt to dispose it by the tackled player and c) the ball isn’t coming out, you ball it up.

The rules aren’t THAT complicated to learn. There are those three key judgement areas for umpires and there will always be a little variation decision to decision but it’s when they seem to forget the rules of the game that I go insane.

I also really want to fans to understand that holding the ball is always paid when there is prior opportunity and sometimes paid when there isn’t prior. So many fans yell out “no prior” but don’t seem to understand that that doesn’t always matter.

 

[remfan101]

The rules themselves are actually quite straightforward.

1. If you’re tackled legally with prior opportunity to dispose it’s a free kick. Umpire has to make a judgement call on prior. But usually this is the easiest one to call.

2. If you get tackled without any prior opportunity you still have to make an attempt to kick or handball it. If you don’t attempt this, it’s a free. Umpire has to make a judgement call on if you’re making a legitimate attempt.

3. You can never dispose of it illegally. You must kick or handball whether you’re being tackled or not. Dropping, throwing, fake “attempting” to handball - you can’t do it. Free kick for illegal disposal.

4. The ball is allowed to incidentally “pop out” of a tackle. Umpire has to make a judgement call as to whether you’ve illegally disposed it or if it’s popped out naturally in the messiness of tackles (at the moment they’re WAY too lenient on this). Also this is irrelevant if there was prior.

5. If the ball is bouncing around under a maul of players you can’t drag it under a tackle. Instant free.

6. If there was a) no prior before the tackle, b) a legitimate attempt to dispose it by the tackled player and c) the ball isn’t coming out, you ball it up.

The rules aren’t THAT complicated to learn. There are those three key judgement areas for umpires and there will always be a little variation decision to decision but it’s when they seem to forget the rules of the game that I go insane.

I also really want to fans to understand that holding the ball is always paid when there is prior opportunity and sometimes paid when there isn’t prior. So many fans yell out “no prior” but don’t seem to understand that that doesn’t always matter.

I’ve never really understood why #4 is part of the rule- “popping out”=illegal disposal imo

 

[desie]

I’ve never really understood why #4 is part of the rule- “popping out”=illegal disposal imo

I recall that Anna Bolic once had a problem with ‘popping out’.

 

[Shermanator]

Can someone from our club please call out that lisp toting toilet rat from Talking Shit for blatantly spreading lies about us…. AGAIN!!!!!

 

[Intothewind]

The rules themselves are actually quite straightforward.

1. If you’re tackled legally with prior opportunity to dispose it’s a free kick. Umpire has to make a judgement call on prior. But usually this is the easiest one to call.

2. If you get tackled without any prior opportunity you still have to make an attempt to kick or handball it. If you don’t attempt this, it’s a free. Umpire has to make a judgement call on if you’re making a legitimate attempt.

3. You can never dispose of it illegally. You must kick or handball whether you’re being tackled or not. Dropping, throwing, fake “attempting” to handball - you can’t do it. Free kick for illegal disposal.

4. The ball is allowed to incidentally “pop out” of a tackle. Umpire has to make a judgement call as to whether you’ve illegally disposed it or if it’s popped out naturally in the messiness of tackles (at the moment they’re WAY too lenient on this). Also this is irrelevant if there was prior.

5. If the ball is bouncing around under a maul of players you can’t drag it under a tackle. Instant free.

6. If there was a) no prior before the tackle, b) a legitimate attempt to dispose it by the tackled player and c) the ball isn’t coming out, you ball it up.

The rules aren’t THAT complicated to learn. There are those three key judgement areas for umpires and there will always be a little variation decision to decision but it’s when they seem to forget the rules of the game that I go insane.

I also really want to fans to understand that holding the ball is always paid when there is prior opportunity and sometimes paid when there isn’t prior. So many fans yell out “no prior” but don’t seem to understand that that doesn’t always matter.

All those 6 "uncomplicated" rules should be replaced with: if you take possession, and don't dispose via a kick or handball it's a free kick.

 

[DocSholl]

All those 6 "uncomplicated" rules should be replaced with: if you take possession, and don't dispose via a kick or handball it's a free kick.

Then no one would take possession in a contest

 

[Intothewind]

Then no one would take possession in a contest

Why take possession if you can't get a kick or handball away. You are just going to end up going to ground and flopping like a fish.

 

[DocSholl]

Why take possession if you can't get a kick or handball away. You are just going to end up going to ground and flopping like a fish.

Why risk a tackle locking the ball in or knocking it loose if I'm just going to be penalised? I'd rather be the tackler if that's a free kick

 

[Carey4life]

I feel like there was a bit of a directive from the AFL to suck up to us after freekick-gate.

 

[RHLK]

All those 6 "uncomplicated" rules should be replaced with: if you take possession, and don't dispose via a kick or handball it's a free kick.

'Knocked out in the tackle' is the only other legit call, but again introduces 'prior opportunity' mission creep......

 

[Cool Kangas]

I feel like there was a bit of a directive from the AFL to suck up to us after freekick-gate.


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I wish this f-wit would just f off

 

[Roostorm]

I feel like there was a bit of a directive from the AFL to suck up to us after freekick-gate.


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Wtf did l just read???
Nup life ban the muppet…burn his membership …then toss it in a hole….stomp on it…douse in kero again …and burn..again…whilst in view of him….
Then leave photos of him at each venue we play so he’s removed from us each post match for the coming decades…
Muppet.

 

[Intothewind]

'Knocked out in the tackle' is the only other legit call, but again introduces 'prior opportunity' mission creep......

When Daniel Wells kicked his Jackie Chan goal, he kicked it before he had "prior opportunity".

The safe option of a guaranteed ball up is why 99% of players get tackled without releasing it.

Prior opportunity promotes dull boring footy that suits the lesser skilled players.

 

[Gasometer]

I feel like there was a bit of a directive from the AFL to suck up to us after freekick-gate.


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I’ve read this a few times since this morning

Fun fact

 

[ferball]

I feel like there was a bit of a directive from the AFL to suck up to us after freekick-gate.


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**** off Damo you whiny **** head.

 

[ferball]

When Daniel Wells kicked his Jackie Chan goal, he kicked it before he had "prior opportunity".

The safe option of a guaranteed ball up is why 99% of players get tackled without releasing it.

Prior opportunity promotes dull boring footy that suits the lesser skilled players.

So you're saying touching the ball while your feet touch the ground constitutes prior opportunity?

 

[LuvtheKangas]

I feel like there was a bit of a directive from the AFL to suck up to us after freekick-gate.


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You're still not welcome anywhere near the club, Damo, you snivelling little campaigner.

 

[The acurate one]

So Damo thinks 35 yr old Tex Walker would be a good fit for us lol. Yep would be fantastic, bring Goldy back as well. What’s Mal Blight up to ?

Cripes

 

[Passmore]

So Damo thinks 35 yr old Tex Walker would be a good fit for us lol. Yep would be fantastic, bring Goldy back as well. What’s Mal Blight up to ?

Cripes

Look at the Hawk premiership team from '08. Yes, they brought in Dew, but they pretty much let the group grow.....and weeded out the shitmen.

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[the big lebowski]

So Damo thinks 35 yr old Tex Walker would be a good fit for us lol. Yep would be fantastic, bring Goldy back as well. What’s Mal Blight up to ?

Cripes

You don’t rate Tex? He kicked over 70 goals last year.

We’ve seen how transformational another key forward is for us. Now imagine what that is good.

 

[the big lebowski]

Look at the Hawk premiership team from '08. Yes, they brought in Dew, but they pretty much let the group grow.....and weeded out the shitmen.

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The hawks were the kings of bringing in older players. Maybe not in 2008 but they won 3 in a row bringing in lake, hale, Gibson etc

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

I feel like there was a bit of a directive from the AFL to suck up to us after freekick-gate.


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It's disgusting in its transparency.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

The hawks were the kings of bringing in older players. Maybe not in 2008 but they won 3 in a row bringing in lake, hale, Gibson etc

Stuart Dew was 28 when he joined Hawthorn for the 2008 season.

Josh Gibson was 25 when he joined them in 2010

David Hale was 26 when he joined them in 2011

Brian Lake was 30 when he joined in 2013.

It's not the same as getting someone in their mid 30s as Taylor Walker is now.

 

[ferball]

If...

I wasn't such a backstabbing, pathetic failure as a human...

Then...

North people might still want me around the club.