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I reckon the Victorian media will go to town on JHF and make him out to be the anti - christ. All kinds of anecdotal stories will anonymously leak out of North and be offered up as evidence of what a **** bloke he allegedly is. And Barrett will hypocritically join in the bashing of JHF after criticising us for having a go at Rioli for being ungrateful as headed out the door
 
Deplorable trumpster said:
Will we get a Victorian media campaign starting tomorrow morning, spearheaded by Damien Barrett, proclaiming that JHF is the greatest 18 year old of all time and is worth 5 first rounders and if Port don't cough up then that means their club is a failure and should just fold up their club and go away forever?
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Deplorable trumpster said:
I reckon the Victorian media will go to town on JHF and make him out to be the anti - christ. All kinds of anecdotal stories will anonymously leak out of North and be offered up as evidence of what a **** bloke he allegedly is. And Barrett will hypocritically join in the bashing of JHF after criticising us for having a go at Rioli for being ungrateful as headed out the door
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random260 said:
I'm so sad we lost war lord.
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Shueygod said:
Dreaming of you think we are getting all that, I’d take pick 8 and f1st for pick 2 and Rioli to be honest.
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I'd rather just use pick 2 and do the Rioli trade separately. But I think that's a shit trade either way, if we do want to split we'll likely get similar offers just for pick 2 by itself without throwing Rioli in for free
 
Miguel Sanchez said:
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My stalker is back.

Let me clarify. I think his value will get talked up initially by the Victorian media. Then North will quickly shoot down the idea of trading him. Then he will start getting bagged. Or, in the unlikely event that he does get traded, they will bag him after the trade goes through in a couple of weeks time. I can't see the people making decisions at North being able to sell whatever Port are able to offer as a win for North in the court of public opinion, so i don't think any deal will get done.

North will want to wait another year and see if either JHF changes his mind, or he has a better year and they can then ask for more from the club buying him, and maybe there is a stronger draft than this years, and maybe one of the Adelaide clubs somehow ends up with more trading capital to offer for him than they have at the moment. Plus an extra year on from when they drafted him makes it a bit less embarassing for them to then be forced to trade him. Their position won't be any weaker in a years time than it is now and it may well be stronger so why trade him now.
 

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Arrivals: None

Departures: Hugh Dixon (delisted), Tom Joyce (delisted), Josh Kennedy (retired), Patrick Naish (delisted), Jackson Nelson (delisted), Jack Redden (retired)

Uncontracted (3): Shannon Hurn (unrestricted free agent), Junior Rioli, Connor West

Contracted: 35 (no category B rookie)

Draft picks: 2, 20, 26, 39

Redden’s surprise retirement leaves the Eagles with nine list openings, one of which they hope will be used on Demons dasher Jayden Hunt. Rioli will find his way to Port Adelaide despite West Coast’s disappointment at his decision – but the return is still to be determined. Hurn is yet to officially commit but all indications up to now were that he planned to keep playing, while West is also expected to get a new deal. Eagles chief executive Trevor Nisbett remains confident they can land agile Melbourne big man Luke Jackson or another A-grade talent to fast-track their rebuild.
 
Byron_Clanger said:
The mind boggles how Port and Brisbane will be able to bring in all these players without crippling themselves list wise and draft wise
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Brisbane will effectively lose all of this years draft capital, plus next years first round draft pick and Daniel McStay

In return they’ll get the best player from this years draft, another player rated in the top 20, Dunkley and Gunston

That’s not crippling by any stretch. Any club would be happy with that

Port will effectively do the same thing by throwing away this years draft capital and next years first. They also lost Amon to FA and maybe another player or two

In return they’ll get JHF and Rioli

That’s not as good a result as Brisbane
 

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If the chance to draft Wardlaw is gone (which I think it is) then I’m not fussed who is up next, just not Sheezel…we don’t need JHF MkII on our hands next year.

Offer pick 2 and Junior to Port for Pick 8,27 & Georgiades.

Port can then give pick 2 and next years first for JHF.

How badly do Port want JHF? Because pick 8 and a late first next year don’t get it done if you ask me

Package up a mixture of our seconds to Lions for their first rounder and Deven.

Take 8 (9) and 15 (16) to the draft with Dev and Mitch coming in.
 
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Deplorable trumpster said:
My stalker is back.

Let me clarify. I think his value will get talked up initially by the Victorian media. Then North will quickly shoot down the idea of trading him. Then he will start getting bagged. Or, in the unlikely event that he does get traded, they will bag him after the trade goes through in a couple of weeks time. I can't see the people making decisions at North being able to sell whatever Port are able to offer as a win for North in the court of public opinion, so i don't think any deal will get done.

North will want to wait another year and see if either JHF changes his mind, or he has a better year and they can then ask for more from the club buying him, and maybe there is a stronger draft than this years, and maybe one of the Adelaide clubs somehow ends up with more trading capital to offer for him than they have at the moment. Plus an extra year on from when they drafted him makes it a bit less embarassing for them to then be forced to trade him. Their position won't be any weaker in a years time than it is now and it may well be stronger so why trade him now.
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Won't matter what the media says the club's do what they think is right for their list.
 
2 and Rioli for 8 & ports future first.

Our future second and third to GC for picks 25,32 and 35.

26,32,35,39 go brisbane for Robertson and 15. (It's +1100 points for Brisbane)

Port trade pick 2, 27 and we give Gaff (we pay half his salary) for JHF

8,15,20,25 in this draft + Robertson.
2 first rounders next year.

GC give up their 3 second rounders to move to what they will think will be at worst pick 20 and 40 in next years draft.

We agree not to bid on any Brisbane academy prospects at 15 to 25.

Brisbane need the list spot with what they are trying to do and Robertson is likely going 3-4 down the rung of mids at Brisbane.

North end up with 1,2,27 and Gaff on about 400k a year for 2 years.

Play Kelly + Sheed on the wings, Chesser and Hough at HB with Cole + Hurn in the back flanks. Hunt plays the running defender in truth and Chesser and Hough are spending more time on the bench plus a bit in the middle.

JJ keeps his spot and moves back forward.

Yeo comes back fit and firing and Leads with midfield with support from Nicnat, Shuey, Robertson, Culley and others while we develop the youth.

FB Cole Barrass Hurn
HB Hunt Mcgovern Hough
C Kelly Shuey Sheed
HF Cripps Allen JJ
FF Ryan Darling Petch
R Nicnat Yeo Robertson
I Williams Chesser Culley *****

Run it hard, fast and butcher it long with the aim of a mark but with the primary intent of players running onto it. Lacks some star power and a bit of experience at centre bounces but we are building a new generation. At around the ground stoppages we should be very strong and there is some real mongrel as well as speed and kicking depth there as well as the ability to rebound and rebound fast. Ryan is effectively the third tall forward along with Williams.

Still a lot of talent to develop and come into that side over the next 3 years even with what is on the list now.

JHF isn't going to instantly become a star so doesn't bother me going to port and Rioli going doesn't bother me either. I think they still finish 6-12.

Lastly with who we're losing and paycuts bring salary forward on guys like Yeo, Darling, Gov, Barrass.
 
ThePuma #9 said:
If the chance to draft Wardlaw is gone (which I think it is) then I’m not fussed who is up next, just not Sheezel…we don’t need JHF MkII on our hands next year.

Offer pick 2 and Junior to Port for Pick 8,27 & Georgiades.

Port can then give pick 2 and next years first for JHF.

How badly do Port want JHF? Because pick 8 and a late first next year don’t get it done if you ask me

Package up a mixture of our seconds to Lions for their first rounder and Deven.

Take 8 (9) and 15 (16) to the draft with Dev and Mitch coming in.
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Why are we even considering dropping down from 2--> 8 for this Georgiades kid? He better be a generational talent. So no I wouldn't take that it's insane. The leap from 2 to 8 is a big one.


WCE_phil said:
2 and Rioli for 8 & ports future first.

Our future second and third to GC for picks 25,32 and 35.

26,32,35,39 go brisbane for Robertson and 15. (It's +1100 points for Brisbane)

Port trade pick 2, 27 and we give Gaff (we pay half his salary) for JHF

8,15,20,25 in this draft + Robertson.
2 first rounders next year.

GC give up their 3 second rounders to move to what they will think will be at worst pick 20 and 40 in next years draft.

We agree not to bid on any Brisbane academy prospects at 15 to 25.

Brisbane need the list spot with what they are trying to do and Robertson is likely going 3-4 down the rung of mids at Brisbane.

North end up with 1,2,27 and Gaff on about 400k a year for 2 years.

Play Kelly + Sheed on the wings, Chesser and Hough at HB with Cole + Hurn in the back flanks. Hunt plays the running defender in truth and Chesser and Hough are spending more time on the bench plus a bit in the middle.

JJ keeps his spot and moves back forward.

Yeo comes back fit and firing and Leads with midfield with support from Nicnat, Shuey, Robertson, Culley and others while we develop the youth.

FB Cole Barrass Hurn
HB Hunt Mcgovern Hough
C Kelly Shuey Sheed
HF Cripps Allen JJ
FF Ryan Darling Petch
R Nicnat Yeo Robertson
I Williams Chesser Culley *****

Run it hard, fast and butcher it long with the aim of a mark but with the primary intent of players running onto it. Lacks some star power and a bit of experience at centre bounces but we are building a new generation. At around the ground stoppages we should be very strong and there is some real mongrel as well as speed and kicking depth there as well as the ability to rebound and rebound fast. Ryan is effectively the third tall forward along with Williams.

Still a lot of talent to develop and come into that side over the next 3 years even with what is on the list now.

JHF isn't going to instantly become a star so doesn't bother me going to port and Rioli going doesn't bother me either. I think they still finish 6-12.

Lastly with who we're losing and paycuts bring salary forward on guys like Yeo, Darling, Gov, Barrass.
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I don't mind a future first but need to look at it from this angle.

We will get pick 8 + pick 16.

Given wardlaw is off the table!!!!! I'm open to downgrading to 2x top 10 picks. But out first pick should be 2-7.

In fact I'm open for Luke Jackson now
 
mattyc75 said:
Wardlaw isnt off the table yet.

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Not yet but if they lose JHF there's strong indication they will go the best midfielder available. Obviously anything can happen on draft night and we will if they don't. Still a lot to play out. I was at the opinion that for us at pick 2 it was either Wardlaw or Cadman.
 
random260 said:
Why are we even considering dropping down from 2--> 8 for this Georgiades kid? He better be a generational talent. So no I wouldn't take that it's insane. The leap from 2 to 8 is a big one.
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Gerpgiades is not a generational talent but in most recruiters eyes there have been three clear standouts in tier A, Ashcroft, Wardlaw & Sheezel.

Sheezel is a massive flight risk and he’s not hiding it either, mentioning how strong his connection to family is or his preference to stay in Melbourne every chance he gets and most consider the next lot of boys are reasonably even between 4-12 so we might as well get something for pick 2 to slide.

There are clubs that will want Sheezel such as Hawks but I don’t see them offering up two first rounders for him so I’d much prefer someone like Mitch Georgiades thrown in to slide back.

Georgiades is a young forward who has played 47 games in 3 years for 67 goals and 203 marks. He is a fraction undersized but is very athletic and can take a decent pack mark. On comparison with other young forwards he is tracking very well for his age. Would easily be worth a first round pick.

Port don’t want to lose him but they have a chance to get JHF, publicly dangle pick 2 infront of them for pick 8 and Georgiades and North will cling to that like a fly on shit. It might just force Ports hand to cough him up for unders to secure their golden child.
 
Deplorable trumpster said:
Don't forget that he is under contract and this is highly, highly embarassing to North as a club and the people within the club who made the decision to knock back the Crow's offer.

Trading him out means people who make the calls within the club would be admitting that they were wrong, they made a massive **** up and it has cost the club a ton of opportunity cost. Human beings really don't like doing that. They will find any excuse not to do that.

Expect North to be stubborn as hell on the price. In fact i think they might just say No and keep him another year and see if he changes his mind, even if you could argue that if they somehow got offered two first rounders, even if they weren't early firsts, they should just take it.

This isn't a garden variety trade where you can expect both parties to think and act rationally. North will act emotionally and irrationally because the ego's and professional reputations of people within the club and the reputation of the club is being tarnished by what is hapenning.
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It could get nasty.

I think a deal gets done and both parties move on.
 
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