List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion - 2022 Off Season Edition

[Keys]

Contract status of all players now fully updated

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[random260]

It actually is a must to have two key forwards. Every team has at least two key tall forwards. Selling yourself short without them.

That's not the case. It's a luxury and sometimes harmful. Look at Richmond they had one key FWD in Riewoldt during their free peat. Same with Hawks they had buddy as their KPF.

 

[Truckosaurus]

In his defence he had "West Coast are fat" lined up for today but Rendell stole that last week.

Can't run with Junior smokes pot either now, poor Kane

 

[Bender_]

That's not the case. It's a luxury and sometimes harmful. Look at Richmond they had one key FWD in Riewoldt during their free peat. Same with Hawks they had buddy as their KPF.

Lynch?

 

[TerryFilk]

Who would be a better fit...Georgiades or Cadman?

Cadman, much better fit with Oscar and he’s Jeremy Cameron clone

 

[random260]

Lynch?

Lynch came in the later years and the only reason they got him was to replace Jack in the future as their only one KPF

 

[Bender_]

Lynch came in the later years and the only reason they got him was to replace Jack in the future as their only one KPF

He was there for 2 of their flags.

 

[twadds]

That's not the case. It's a luxury and sometimes harmful. Look at Richmond they had one key FWD in Riewoldt during their free peat. Same with Hawks they had buddy as their KPF.

And Roughead?? Didn’t realise he was a small.

 

[Forward Press]

That's not the case. It's a luxury and sometimes harmful. Look at Richmond they had one key FWD in Riewoldt during their free peat. Same with Hawks they had buddy as their KPF.

Uh...

Tom Lynch and Jarryd Roughead?

 

[Free Agent]

That's not the case. It's a luxury and sometimes harmful. Look at Richmond they had one key FWD in Riewoldt during their free peat. Same with Hawks they had buddy as their KPF.

Hawks had Buddy Roughhead
Richmond had Riewoldt Tom Lynch for two of those Premierships

 

[MaxHunt]

Serious question, if Jedd Busslinger didn't get injured would he be projected to go higher?

 

[random260]

Hawks had Buddy Roughhead
Richmond had Riewoldt Tom Lynch for two of those Premierships

For Hawks they won without buddy 2/3
Richmond won 1/3 without

Look at 2006 Grand Final. There has been many instances where a team had done well without 2 KPF and has presented a new game style. Fremantle 2013 Grand final.

Jake Waterman/Resting ruckman can do the job just fine.

 

[squashface]

Gunston Lynch and Bock Roughead

 

[dinnaz]

That's not the case. It's a luxury and sometimes harmful. Look at Richmond they had one key FWD in Riewoldt during their free peat. Same with Hawks they had buddy as their KPF.

Roughead, Franklin, Hale, Schoenmakers(crab) jammed in because they needed to fill that spot.

I think Cadman is a fine pick as the only other option for quality KPF is to hope Logan McDonald will return to WA. He hasnt exactly set the world on fire either.

Georgiades seems to be a fine 3rd tall however isn't the main man.

 

[30stm3891]

Will we get a Victorian media campaign starting tomorrow morning, spearheaded by Damien Barrett, proclaiming that JHF is the greatest 18 year old of all time and is worth 5 first rounders and if Port don't cough up then that means their club is a failure and should just fold up their club and go away forever?

At least 2 first round picks.
Port are CAMPAIGNERS after the Rioli's farce.

 

[dinnaz]

Serious question, if Jedd Busslinger didn't get injured would he be projected to go higher?

Injury probably doesn't matter. Hes above average as far as KPD go but not as good as Weitering who was a bit of a must pick.
It will boil down to who wants a tall defender (and he's the best one available) Better than Gibcus last year for a comparison.

 

[GWeagles]

Surely unless Port wants to play draft lotto with Rioli they need to find a decent player to offer us?

 

[TerryFilk]

Surely unless Port wants to play draft lotto with Rioli they need to find a decent player to offer us?

I do wonder if Duursma could be a factor in this deal or even be heading to North in the JHF deal.

 

[southcoast]

In the know.

I believe

We’ll that counts our whole board out

We’re just here to speculate.


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[shooshka]

Been on the split pick 2 wagon for some time.

Still am.

Especially if the two best pure mids are gone. Sheezel has said his preference is Melbourne and is close to his family.

The next tier of mids are there between 5 and 10 with some other nice mids between 10 - 15.

There are plenty of people changing their minds and accepting a pick split may just be the best option. And not just for the sake of it.

I've got no issue with one of 4 choices:

• use pick 2 on Sheezel (assuming Nth take Wardlaw)
• use pick 2 on Wardlaw
• use pick 2 on Cadman
• trade pick 2 for a very favorable deal (pick 8, ports future 1st and Georgiades doesn't cut it. There is a drop off after the top 4/5 prospects this year, to a very even group. If teams want to jump a bracket - pay for it)

West Coast need to independently look at what we want, if that is elite talent then take pick 2. If it is a few cracks at potentially elite talent then maybe split for 2 picks between 5-15 (one very close to 5).

If we are really keen on a player in the 10-16 range I think we have the currency (or will have after Rioli) to buy a pick assuming there are team/s who are willing sellers (I think there will be).

Basically, for pick 2 it is a sellers market. There are only 4 other teams who 'might' feel they will get one of the best players in this draft (Nth obviously, GWS, Essendon and likely GC after Rankine trade). Matching the points up does nothing for us - it would need to be a bit of a monster offer IMO. Any of the 3 players I listed above would improve our team a lot - they will all be good AFL players. Go-home factor might scare some, but we do have a really good retention history - we continue to back ourselves in every other facet (often when this board can see it looks like the wrong decision), but we just ignore our retention history - which is elite.

 

[GoldenEagle]

I'd keep the Rioli for 27 trade separate.

North trade JHF and receive pick 2. Cut their losses from last year's 1st and gain this year's 2nd. They get Cadman and Wardlaw with there first 2 picks.

Port trade pick 8 and a future first and get JHF.

We trade pick 2 and get this year's pick 8 and Ports 1st round next year (somewhere between pick 6-12)

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Serious question, if Jedd Busslinger didn't get injured would he be projected to go higher?

Was discussed on here as the motivation for clubs to trade for our #2 pick to grab Busslinger, with GWS, GC and Essendon all apparently desperate to get him.
Then when Buss got injured it became that Sheezel is a must have and clubs will fall over themselves getting our #2 to have access to him.
Now suddenly everyone will be desperate for Cadman so we should extort clubs for our #2 pick.

Its Bigfooty, nobody knows shit on here. Except Port supporters. They know everything so stfu because Eagles will be lucky to get pick 57 for Rioli.

 

[Keys]

I don’t see North accepting just pick 8 and ports future 1st. Seems unders for a player described as a generational talent 12 months ago

The only other draft chip they hold is the Amon compo pick (27) - they can’t trade their future 2nd and 3rd as well as their 1st and their next pick in this years draft is 54

Which means if they still want to trade Rioli in and keep North happy then the only way to do this is to lose a player

Hard to now see us getting a better offer for Rioli than the Amon compo pick which tbh was always around the mark. Maybe grab 54 to use if we do indeed bundle up some of our 2nd round picks and 39 to jump up the draft board

 

[dinnaz]

I'd keep the Rioli for 27 trade separate.

North trade JHF and receive pick 2. Cut their losses from last year's 1st and gain this year's 2nd. They get Cadman and Wardlaw with there first 2 picks.

Port trade pick 8 and a future first and get JHF.

We trade pick 2 and get this year's pick 8 and Ports 1st round next year (somewhere between pick 6-12)

8 and 10 meh, feels like a downgrade
As we have seen a trade up from 3 to 2 can cost a club #16

 

[dinnaz]

I don’t see North accepting just pick 8 and ports future 1st. Seems unders for a player described as a generational talent 12 months ago

The only other draft chip they hold is the Amon compo pick (27) - they can’t trade their future 2nd and 3rd as well as their 1st and their next pick in this years draft is 54

Which means if they still want to trade Rioli in and keep North happy then the only way to do this is to lose a player

Hard to now see us getting a better offer for Rioli than the Amon compo pick which tbh was always around the mark. Maybe grab 54 to use if we do indeed bundle up some of our 2nd round picks and 39 to jump up the draft board

Its north, any player able to make another teams best 22 is a generational talent as far as they're concerned.

 

[bzparkes]

For Hawks they won without buddy 2/3
Richmond won 1/3 without

Look at 2006 Grand Final. There has been many instances where a team had done well without 2 KPF and has presented a new game style. Fremantle 2013 Grand final.

Jake Waterman/Resting ruckman can do the job just fine.

Err, we had Lynch and Hansen for '06.

What are you smoking?