List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion - 2022 Off Season Edition

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Contract status of all players now fully updated

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[DanWCE]

Successful tradies making $150k+. Lots where I live, and thanks to covid inflation, near impossible to find a house under $1.2m. Plenty over $2m.

Successful tradies are making far, far more than that. Any old pleb tradie is making 150k+ in this market if they choose to work regular work hours. It's actually insane at the moment. What I'm paying guys to get work done versus 2-3 years ago even, is just wild. Never seen rate escalation like the past few years.

 

[Bender_]

Successful tradies are making far, far more than that. Any old pleb tradie is making 150k+ in this market if they choose to work regular work hours. It's actually insane at the moment. What I'm paying guys to get work done versus 2-3 years ago even, is just wild. Never seen rate escalation like the past few years.

And they'll all spend it wisely on Dodge Rams, Jet Skis, tattoos and nose candy, God bless them.

 

[Rowan18]

Successful tradies are making far, far more than that. Any old pleb tradie is making 150k+ in this market if they choose to work regular work hours. It's actually insane at the moment. What I'm paying guys to get work done versus 2-3 years ago even, is just wild. Never seen rate escalation like the past few years.

Brickies were making $300k last year when they gouged the shit out of the market. It's dropped back a lot now. I reckon the heat will be gone by the end of the year and a lot of trades will see their salaries halve (back to normal).

Non skilled labour will also get smashed. Labourers and cleaners are making $60 an hour. That will drop big time once all these new migrants hit shore.

 

[the harry]

What picks of Ports do we have this year?

 

[WCE_phil]

What picks of Ports do we have this year?

Their second and third rounder.

 

[Obeanie1]

Yeah. Average figure is skewed by Mutimer’s salary

And lets not forget Dark Sharks personal legs trainer. It's turned into a HUGE specialist indusrty personal leg training.

Scuptured legs dont come for free guyz!

 

[DanWCE]

Brickies were making $300k last year when they gouged the s**t out of the market. It's dropped back a lot now. I reckon the heat will be gone by the end of the year and a lot of trades will see their salaries halve (back to normal).

Non skilled labour will also get smashed. Labourers and cleaners are making $60 an hour. That will drop big time once all these new migrants hit shore.

I hope it normalizes, it has been brutal. I'm involved with fitout so the big brickie and concreters bubble has moved along to us.

Commercial labour jumping into residential because the money is so good, just crazy stuff that never happened before.

Curiously after being unable to source stock unless I was ordering on a 5 month lead, I've got sales reps calling me now and wanting to come catch up. I'm guessing they can all see the cliff is coming.

 

[WCErevival]

Its shit for us wanting to do renos. May as well wait for a couple of years.

 

[Bender_]

I hope it normalizes, it has been brutal. I'm involved with fitout so the big brickie and concreters bubble has moved along to us.

Are you DanCON on this BigBrickie site you mentioned?

 

[DanWCE]

Its s**t for us wanting to do renos. May as well wait for a couple of years.

I would, definitely. Prices will come down, quality of work will improve

 

[DanWCE]

Are you DanCON on this BigBrickie site you mentioned?

The only thing I have to do with brickies is making sure their walls don't fall over

 

[the harry]

Their second and third rounder.

Thanks.

So it would be pretty optimistic to get a pick on the top 25 from that, even pre FA compo.

Fingers crossed I supposed.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Thanks.

So it would be pretty optimistic to get a pick on the top 25 from that, even pre FA compo.

Fingers crossed I supposed.

With GC most definitely selling their first rounder this year we would have good collateral to make an offer

 

[Boots73]

So if we are in a position to have 2 first round pics
Curtain could be a chance & Mitch Edwards the 205cm ruckman ,don’t really think Bailey Williams will be a long term player for us
Or Tholstrup

 

[WCE_phil]

So if we are in a position to have 2 first round pics
Curtain could be a chance & Mitch Edwards the 205cm ruckman ,don’t really think Bailey Williams will be a long term player for us
Or Tholstrup

It depends on what the pics are. Assuming we have a better year this year and GC are around the 8-10 mark on the ladder unless Curtain pulls a major I don't want to leave card I don't see him getting anywhere near us. However talls do have a major make or break year in their senior junior year. Tholstrup's stocks have fallen a bit and it will be interesting to see the year he has particularly as more and more pure mids climb the ladder.

Assuming we are able to buy GC's first and we end up with say pick 8 and 12 I would be looking at Mitch Edwards at that pick 8 and Tholstrup would be one of a number of options for 12.

I'm a little bit higher or Archie Reid than some others and if he has a good but not great season He could well be the tall forward we are looking for at those picks as well.

As it stands now in the open draft Curtain is 1-4 along with Harley Reid, Ashton Moir and Zane Duursma (particularly if he shows greater midfield capacity this year, Moir is in this category as well but has the highest ceiling of any player in this draft crop imo)

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

So if we are in a position to have 2 first round pics
Curtain could be a chance & Mitch Edwards the 205cm ruckman ,don’t really think Bailey Williams will be a long term player for us
Or Tholstrup

Would we draft rucks in consecutive years? Doubtful.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Would we draft rucks in consecutive years? Doubtful.

We might need to given Barnett is only quality option we have.

 

[RanaNaved]

Given we were heavily linked to Jefferson and Cadman (pre pick split) with very early picks, I think a young KF is almost a certainty.

Also a KPD as we were heavily linked to Busslinger, again with an early pick.

I don't think we should take another ruck with an early pick.

 

[Shmiddy15]

I hope we end up with Riley Hardeman. He's looked great every time I've seen him play.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Its s**t for us wanting to do renos. May as well wait for a couple of years.

That would be the smart thing to do.
I’m wanting to buy in Perth again after living in Broome for 20 years, I’m actually hoping for a recession and a significant price drop over the next couple of years.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

We might need to given Barnett us only quality option we have.

With ruckmen you also need to be conscious of development. If they're close in age it can be difficult to give them the necessary exposure.

 

[Rowan18]

That would be the smart thing to do.
I’m wanting to buy in Perth again after living in Broome for 20 years, I’m actually hoping for a recession and a significant price drop over the next couple of years.

Given the high affordability of houses (particularly middle/outer suburbs where existing houses are priced well below replacement value), high rents and low supply, I think Perth will have another property boom as early as spring this year. The fundamentals suggest that this should already be happening, but sentiment is down a bit from interest rate rises. I see the next 6 months as the buying opportunity, before things take off again.

 

[DanWCE]

Given the high affordability of houses (particularly middle/outer suburbs where existing houses are priced well below replacement value), high rents and low supply, I think Perth will have another property boom as early as spring this year. The fundamentals suggest that this should already be happening, but sentiment is down a bit from interest rate rises. I see the next 6 months as the buying opportunity, before things take off again.

It's difficult to understand what will happen next, and Perth is its own beast. Very low volume of houses being put on the market, really low rental vacancy rate, more jobs than people, building boom still underway, cheaper houses than the rest of Aus..

We sold a couple of places last year and have been renting since just before Covid. As a result we have (so far) maintained a lease for way below market. We're watching things waiting to buy again and have even asked the owner of our rental if he wants to sell. Since that Convo there's been about 8 rate increases..

I'm just very gun shy on buying something at the top of the market, competing with everyone else due to the low volume of good houses coming up for grabs, but it may boil down to whether our next lease offer stays low, as we'll continue to save and look at options. No stress about breaking the lease as they'll find new tenants in a heart beat in this market.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

We might need to given Barnett is only quality option we have.

Going by this board they would probably want to delist Barnett at seasons end if he doesn't dominate AFL this season

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Given we were heavily linked to Jefferson and Cadman (pre pick split) with very early picks, I think a young KF is almost a certainty.

Also a KPD as we were heavily linked to Busslinger, again with an early pick.

I don't think we should take another ruck with an early pick.

The fact we were heavily linked to talls with our 2nd first rounder seems like a massive decoy so no one would jump ahead and take Hewett .

Essendon were very keen to jump ahead of our 3rd pick a snag Hewett before us . Pretty sure they had a deal already done with Sydney that fell through .

By the look of it , jack Williams was having a great preseason before his punctured lung . Think he will go alright. Bit of Quinton Lynch about him . Once jack fills out he is going to be hard to beat 1 on 1 .