Cricket Thread: Indian Summer

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skam85 said:
I always thought Renshaw was the guy to be the long term opener, had the right mentality, technically very good. Good pairing with an attacking partner. But he never really kicked on.
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His card was stamped the minute he ran off the field to take a shit. Border hates players who won't shit their strides for Australia.
 

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Cromulant said:
In Test cricket there's only 2 series that matter.

We've just played one, and that's the other one.

We need to find 3 fast bowlers and a spinner, Boland isn't a long term answer. And we need another opener (maybe 2) and 2 middle order bats.

Green could fill 2 of those roles should be able to stay fit
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Does the World Test Championship get a shout out here?

I think if we win that, the team will stick together for the Ashes. Marsh may have played himself out of contention, but without an obvious candidate, I think Khawaja keeps his spot as the selectors want to reward the group. They won't push someone unless weight of form dictates as did with Marsh.

Then after the Ashes, we'll have a whole just like when Ponting, Gilchrist, Hayden etc retired in quick succession, and we'll be pretty rubbish for a while I am expecting.
 
El Doederino said:
Does the World Test Championship get a shout out here?

I think if we win that, the team will stick together for the Ashes. Marsh may have played himself out of contention, but without an obvious candidate, I think Khawaja keeps his spot as the selectors want to reward the group. They won't push someone unless weight of form dictates as did with Marsh.

Then after the Ashes, we'll have a whole just like when Ponting, Gilchrist, Hayden etc retired in quick succession, and we'll be pretty rubbish for a while I am expecting.
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There are only 3 Tests between now and The Ashes - 2 in Sri Lanka, and the WTC Final in England. There are also a number of ODIs (most notably the Champions Trophy), but Khawaja doesn't play that format anyway. There are basically no opportunities for blooding a Khawaja replacement between now and The Ashes.
 
El Doederino said:
Also, is the final of the Test Championship always supposed to be in England?

Seems like something Premier Pete could throw some taxpayer dollars at. I wouldn't mind an England v India final here at Adelaide Oval.
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Yes, it's at Lord's, from 11-15 June.
 
Vader said:
There are only 3 Tests between now and The Ashes - 2 in Sri Lanka, and the WTC Final in England. There are also a number of ODIs (most notably the Champions Trophy), but Khawaja doesn't play that format anyway. There are basically no opportunities for blooding a Khawaja replacement between now and The Ashes.
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Do we go to the West Indies for tests as well?
 
El Doederino said:
But is every final in England? There have been 2 already at Rose Bowl and The Oval. What is the protocol?

The next final seems to be at Lords as well, according to Wikipedia.
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I think after 2027 it’s up for grabs ala the other ICC events.
 
El Doederino said:
But is every final in England? There have been 2 already at Rose Bowl and The Oval. What is the protocol?

The next final seems to be at Lords as well, according to Wikipedia.
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Seems to be always in England, regardless of which teams are competing. The poms have yet to make the final, in 3 WTC cycles.
 

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Vader said:
Not between now and The Ashes

You can see our itinerary on the Australia Cricinfo page: https://www.espncricinfo.com/team/australia-2

We have 2x Tests & 1x ODI in Sri Lanka, then 3x ODIs in the Champions Trophy (possibly more if we make the finals), then it's the WTC final, then it's The Ashes (starting in November, in Perth).
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I think we've got 3 tests vs the West Indies in June-July 2025 but the exact dates aren't yet confirmed, so it's not appearing in any calendars yet
 
Drugs Are Bad Mackay? said:
I think we've got 3 tests vs the West Indies in June-July 2025 but the exact dates aren't yet confirmed, so it's not appearing in any calendars yet
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It appears you are correct: https://www.cricket.com.au/news/4191947/mark-your-calendar-2025

This lists 2 tours not listed in the Calendar, between now and The Ashes.

West Indies - 3x Tests, 3x ODIs & 3x T20Is to be played in the West Indies in June/July
South Africa - 3x ODIs & 3x T20s to be played in Northern Australia in August

How the mighty have fallen. When was the last time we had visitors in winter, playing in Northern Australia? Was it Bangladesh or Zimbabwe? We're definitely talking a calendar slot reserved for the minnows.

Fingers crossed we use the Windies tour to blood some youngsters.
 
feenix67 said:
They all seemed to forgive the mastermind alright... Davey was the one who took advantage of the young lad.
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He was but Bancroft broke ranks when he said the bowlers knew about it and that's the issue. He was the one caught out with Dopey Davey and Smith and rightly or wrongly, they were to absorb the blame to preserve the team and he couldn't do it.

I mean, everyone who has played cricket at any level and bowled would know something was going on, though to be fair, I opened the bowling with a guy who couldn't hit the seam if he tried, I'd often get the ball for the third over and the friggin' thing would be reversing.

Being as that is, if the bowlers after the event say they didn't know and then a year or so down the track, you decide to correct them...and one of them becomes captain, the end result is.
 
spenze said:
He was but Bancroft broke ranks when he said the bowlers knew about it and that's the issue. He was the one caught out with Dopey Davey and Smith and rightly or wrongly, they were to absorb the blame to preserve the team and he couldn't do it.

I mean, everyone who has played cricket at any level and bowled would know something was going on, though to be fair, I opened the bowling with a guy who couldn't hit the seam if he tried, I'd often get the ball for the third over and the friggin' thing would be reversing.

Being as that is, if the bowlers after the event say they didn't know and then a year or so down the track, you decide to correct them...and one of them becomes captain, the end result is.
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The whole team new. They arent stupid. I dont think when the trio were advised to come forward that Cricket Australia themselves would issue such harsh penalties.
 
adelaidecrows said:
The whole team new. They arent stupid. I dont think when the trio were advised to come forward that Cricket Australia themselves would issue such harsh penalties.
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Of course the whole team knew, there was never any doubt on that. Also they weren't advised to come forward, they were caught on camera, there was always going to be a large punishment. Players can giggle about putting lolly spit on the ball for "bending" the rules but home made sand paper is a different kettle of fish.

Anyways, it is what it is, I never wanted Warner back in the team, for me, I would have rathered both he and Bancroft be excluded from the side and I am not sure on Smiths penalty length, you can't be a leader, know it is going on (and lets accept the fact he only found out that innings...I don't but lets go with that) to then say "I don't want to know") but it rankles me that he is allowed to captain the country again.
 

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