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beartoo

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Jul 27, 2004
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HOW IT WAS:


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Shiver me timbers—Freo, back when the ships were made o’ wood and the men o’ steel

Back in days of yore when I were a sailor man, oh arrr, creatin ‘avoc in sea ports around the world I ‘appened to sail in and out o’ Port Adelaide and Fremantle ‘arbour on many an occasion. Back in them days it were different, mark me. There were many more ships on the seaboard and the crews were bigger before them container thingies came to be. There were more longshoremen by far as well, see. Dockies and Jack Tars—merchant in the main with a sprinkling of Navy-- roamed the streets of places like Port Adelaide and Fremantle, many of ‘em three sheets to the wind and full to the gunwales. The dockies were made o’ teak, big, tough blokes with their cargo hooks attached to their belts. The pubs and the brothels did brisk trade. There were spivs and people of questionable gender at large in these places. Many and many were the brawls and the one-on-one knuckles in the backyards of the pubs—some of them still spoken of with reverential awe by people old enough to remember.

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A boy in Freo. Not old enough to swallow the anchor
The Mission to Seamen in both places were a haven, mostly for the merchant boys. For a few bob you could get a bed for the night ashore to save slingin’ yer ammock or crashing in yer bunk with a skin full. Well, the price was a few bob and the obligation to attend prayers early next morning. Many o’ the residents had paid off one ship and were waitin’ fer the next one to come in.
The waterside workers and sailors in these places were what gave them their distinctive culture. Longshoremen were supporters of the local footy teams, and some were players. There was a tough, working-class culture in both PA and Freo and the teams responded to that culture.
The present-day Fremantle Football club traces its origins back to 1882 with the establishment of the Fremantle and Union clubs, but they don’t put the date on their jumpers or in publicity.

HOW IT IS:

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Where once ships tied up at Freo

Fast forward to the 21st century and it’s a different landscape. Gone are the throngs of sailors and dockies. The pubs are tame or closed and the brothels and the good-time girls mostly long gone. Museum precincts now dot the landscape. Coffee shops and boutiques have replaced the deli and the men’s and womenswear shops. You’re more likely to find a pair of Adidas or Nike running shoes than a pair of steel-toed work boots—and on it goes.
The heart got ripped outa these places when the culture changed and change it did with a vengeance. These days if you were able to get past security and visit the players’ rooms you’d be more likely to hear talk of negative gearing, prices of stocks and shares, how much the holiday house by the sea cost, the price of hair stylists and what sort of man-makeup the players now use.

Some would say this is progress.

This is what makes THE CREED so amusing. Different times, different world, different culture.
On to this game and stop the nostalgic, bs reminisces, Bear.

WHERE THEY’RE AT:

Freo is in a spot of bother. They seem to be all at sea and can’t run a game out right now. They are competitive early in their games and then fall away. They took it right up to the Kangas and to Wet Toast for three-quarters of each of those games and they strung some useful-looking plays together in both games. They do seem easier to score against this year and their team defence has looked off.
This is not a side we should disrespect by thinking we only have to turn up to win it. There are some mighty handy footballers in this Freo side and we need to be on our mettle. We are fortunate that they are without the Sandman (he puts you nigh nighs. Ask Davis) and Fyfe. Pav has played on one year too long and can’t seem to find half-steam ahead let alone full ahead. To compound Freo’s woes, Michael Johnson tore his hammy and him out makes an already shaky defence look shakier still. Hurley and Bennell in the sickbay hurts them as well. They have a few that might return this week, either that or Ross Lyon may give a couple of kids a go. We can expect returnees to be a tad underdone. However, all that said, they do seem to be between the Devil and the deep blue sea.

THE SMALLS:

It is the small forwards that may give us a bit of curry, as they have so far this year. Walters and Ballantyne need to be watched with care; it is the fast break from the midfield or backline that is catching us out with our fast transition and instant press forward. Sides are exploiting us with long kicks from the backs to the wing and on from there for many metres gained. If the ball continues to come into our backline quickly, then the small forward running into space or getting to the fall of the ball at the feet of the big blokes is a problem to be solved by us. That and a propensity by us to turn the ball over at half forward. When that takes place we have difficulty defending the resultant fast break.

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Geelong’s answer

THE SOLUTION IS AT HAND:


I’m certain Messrs Pyke and co are awake to our shortcomings. Solve the problems above and we are a five or six goals better side. With a bit more experience and our best 22 on the park, we are capable of beating any team in the competition.
And here’s the thing, although we need effort and intensity to win this match, the way we are presently travelling as opposed to the way they are, I expect us to defeat the Fremantle Doctors with ease.
Batten down the hatches and Anchors aweigh, we don’t like the cut o’ their jib and we’ll give these purple haze chaps more than one shot across their bows before all’s done.
The only way I can see Freo upsetting us is if they enlist a few of those dockies of days gone by with their cargo hooks a’swingin’ and run em off halfback
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Crows X Plenty.

Just learned Ballantyne may also be out. Season from hell for Fremantle?
 
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I will be at the game with a Freo lover and he is already saying he might not go. But I will get him there :)

While I think we will win and should win by 40+ I am not dismissive of a Freo side that has shown in the past it can bounce back. I just think
A. We have taken large steps
B. Freo have some cruel injuries which has left them without at least 5 of their top tier .

These are the games Adelaide would lose last year. I would be shattered if they lost Saturday. I truly cannot see this happening.
 
Way too many outs to even imagine a close contest, I'll still be at the game because I love my club and just want to see us play. Although you guys by 10 goals at least is probably a safe prediction. I wouldn't be surprised if Pavlich doesn't fly over and Mundy (Rest) / Ibbotson (Form) aren't in for another week.

I just want to see some life and effort from us this game.
 
Way too many outs to even imagine a close contest, I'll still be at the game because I love my club and just want to see us play. Although you guys by 10 goals at least is probably a safe prediction. I wouldn't be surprised if Pavlich doesn't fly over and Mundy (Rest) / Ibbotson (Form) aren't in for another week.

I just want to see some life and effort from us this game.

Good on you, mate. Good to see supporters stick fat through the good and bad times. That's being a fair dinkum supporter as opposed to a bandwagoner.
 
Way too many outs to even imagine a close contest, I'll still be at the game because I love my club and just want to see us play. Although you guys by 10 goals at least is probably a safe prediction. I wouldn't be surprised if Pavlich doesn't fly over and Mundy (Rest) / Ibbotson (Form) aren't in for another week.

I just want to see some life and effort from us this game.

Whats the problem with Fremantle? I have felt something was wrong with Freo from the moment a second string Crows side almost beat you in the NAB Cup. Is it the coach or the players? combination?
 
Whats the problem with Fremantle? I have felt something was wrong with Freo from the moment a second string Crows side almost beat you in the NAB Cup. Is it the coach or the players? combination?

Players, but for the bad reasons.

It's a new game-plan that hasn't been able to be tested or fixed due to injury decimating our list. I think against Bulldogs we were just bad and against Gold Coast we kept shooting ourselves in the foot. Last fortnights games have been a disaster since we've never had a solid and consistent core group playing and testing our system and structure, with the right leaders on ground playing together. We're putting in youngsters who are now getting experience but showing good signs. I said this on our board, but I wouldn't be surprised if due to the circumstances we're in, the game-plan and system we wanted to play and implement this year has been scrapped and become redundant because of the missing personal. I think behind our clubs four walls they're probably thinking of something new, 5 rounds in.

B22 Injuries:
- Silvagni
- Johnson
- Sandilands
- Mundy
- Fyfe
- Bennell
- Ballantyne

Tuckers Debut was stalled, Ibbotson has been out of form (Lingering injury) and Stephen Hill from what I've gathered is going to possibly join that group of 10/22 B22 lock-in players.

Just my take. 2016 is going to be a long season.
 

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Players, but for the bad reasons.

It's a new game-plan that hasn't been able to be tested or fixed due to injury decimating our list. I think against Bulldogs we were just bad and against Gold Coast we kept shooting ourselves in the foot. Last fortnights games have been a disaster since we've never had a solid and consistent core group playing and testing our system and structure, with the right leaders on ground playing together. We're putting in youngsters who are now getting experience but showing good signs. I said this on our board, but I wouldn't be surprised if due to the circumstances we're in, the game-plan and system we wanted to play and implement this year has been scrapped and become redundant because of the missing personal. I think behind our clubs four walls they're probably thinking of something new, 5 rounds in.

B22 Injuries:
- Silvagni
- Johnson
- Sandilands
- Mundy
- Fyfe
- Bennell
- Ballantyne

Tuckers Debut was stalled, Ibbotson has been out of form (Lingering injury) and Stephen Hill from what I've gathered is going to possibly join that group of 10/22 B22 lock-in players.

Just my take. 2016 is going to be a long season.
I live in Perth and your analysis is crap. Those guys injured this week.
Fyfe
Johnson
Ballantyne
Sandi last week
You didn't have bennell before no loss

You are a heavily defensive team who can't kick a score and you trade for desires not on what you need. You need a forward...so what do you do get Bennell....
It makes me laugh I see dockers fans at work everyday and they whinge.
Very quiet last few weeks and can't wait to goto work tomorrow and smile at the dockers supporters.
Your team Is too slow and can't kick goals. You CANT evolve to the speed of the new game. Poor dockers
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I live in Perth and your analysis is crap. Those guys injured this week.
Fyfe
Johnson
Ballantyne
Sandi last week
You didn't have bennell before no loss

You are a heavily defensive team who can't kick a score and you trade for desires not on what you need. You need a forward...so what do you do get Bennell....
It makes me laugh I see dockers fans at work everyday and they whinge.
Very quiet last few weeks and can't wait to goto work tomorrow and smile at the dockers supporters.
Your team Is too slow and can't kick goals. You CANT evolve to the speed of the new game. Poor dockers
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Kick 'em when they're down hey.....?
 
No Dangerfield. No Fyfe.
Should be an even game then ;)!!
(Ps. Please for the love of god be gentle on us!...Anything under 90 points, I am claiming as a Freo win!)
Anyone who has a 71 Kingswood is a winner already :thumbsu:
 
Yep. They shit me.
They have a lot of outs now. But, that isn't the reason they are shit. It's their gameplan.. As Ross is drawing on the whiteboard, ball through the middle!
Try living in Launceston as a Crows supporter.
Hawks come down, take State Government $$, brainwash every 5-10 year old to support the Poo Brown and Urine Yellow.
In my 10 years here I've met probably 5 Crows supporters.
And North (yes, top of the table courtesy of their S-O-F-T draw) are now invading Hobart.

Ross has worked out you have to score to win. About a year late....

Crows by plenty hopefully.
 
We do need to get Tex in form. Stopping Lynch, Jenkins and McGovern will be a tough ask with Johnson out and McPharlin retired.

I reckon McPharlin is a bigger loss than many realise.

I also reckon the Lyon message is getting a bit stale.

Injuries are a big factor.

Struggling with gameplan as others have said, but why'd they change it?

Also, after a while, the loss of confidence alone can cause what we're seeing, let alone all the above.
 

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