Daics v didak

[magpies42]

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25616863-19742,00.html

I think they need to start drug testing coaches.

Had Daics poster above my bed as a kid, the guy would have been a star centerman had it not been for his dodgy knees. As a result they moved him to a forward pocket and he dominated even more.

Keeping with my theme of anti-soft player week, didak is another one of those

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25616863-19742,00.html

I think they need to start drug testing coaches.

Had Daics poster above my bed as a kid, the guy would have been a star centerman had it not been for his dodgy knees. As a result they moved him to a forward pocket and he dominated even more.

Keeping with my theme of anti-soft player week, didak is another one of those

Although I agree that Daics did more in his career than Dids has (had he to the same point though?) I think the habit of bagging out everyone of our players and calling them soft is ridiculous. The funniest one is people calling pendles soft because he's too smart to get crunched, because players can't get near him.

What is the point of this thread? What does your bed head poster of a retired (great) player have to do with Didak's hardness. Didak is a star, no he is not Leigh Matthews but he aint Nick Stevens either. Dal Santo's soft but he's a star, Gibbs is soft but he's a quality player and there's been way more. There's multiple in every team - including the tope ones..

This thread is a joke, someone close it please!! It is pointless and there's about 4 of them at the moment clogging up this forum. It might have made sense had someone said "Didak is a harder player than Daics" and even then it would be pushing it.

I ask you again, what is the point of this thread??

 

[JayTee]

Soft or not Didak is a star, Didak, Daisy & Pendles are the only collingwood players Ive ever liked and throw Dane Beams in there...non of them are tough, but the way footballs played these days I dont think yu need asmuch tough nuts as yu used to, more speed or courage these days.

 

[King Woodie]

I think the habit of bagging out everyone of our players and calling them soft is ridiculous.
I ask you again, what is the point of this thread??

The point of this thread would seem to be to gather people's opinions on the topic that is in the papers this morning, ie who is better, Didak or Daicos?

As to whether Didak is soft, I don't like using the word soft, but I think that of our selected team on the weekend, Didak would be the one who fears physical contact the most (possibly with the exception of Fraser). He actively avoids contact and panics when he anitcipates contact (ie bad handballs just to get rid of the ball or turning himself away from contact).

This is not to say he is a bad player, because he is just about our best. But he appears to be the most afraid of contact.

 

[krisholio14]

It is an insult to one of the most brilliant, creative and dangerous footballers I've had the pleasure (and pain) of watching to even have Alan Didak mentioned in the same sentence as him, let alone when that sentence is to say Didak is a better player.

Alan Didak is a very good player, but Peter Daicos made a mark on the game that has been rarely surpassed.

 

[Mental Magpie]

It is an insult to one of the most brilliant, creative and dangerous footballers I've had the pleasure (and pain) of watching to even have Alan Didak mentioned in the same sentence as him, let alone when that sentence is to say Didak is a better player.

Alan Didak is a very good player, but Peter Daicos make a mark on the game that has been rarely surpassed.

Spot on.

Didak needs to take his two, maybe three disciplinary strikes (I've lost count) and repay the Pies for sticking with him. He has time on his side, and is at the age where he ripe to take the game by the scruff of the neck and show the rest of the footy world why we've stuck with him.

Daics's record speaks for it's self. Didak is yet to scale those heights, but has still has the opportunity to do so.

Time will tell if Dids is anywhere near Daics.

 

[madsta1234]

daics was a legend he could do miracles out of no where but alan didak is the same he can do outstanding things so didak is a miracle man

 

[Pie eyed]

As usual I reckon comments are being taken out of context to drum up a story.
Malthouse's Top Team is just that the top team he coached and he feels were or are at a stage where he can include them.

Funny that the papers only elicit comment from players he left out or compared to those on the list.
He also left out some bloody great players from all three sides, but he gave valid reasoning.

Do you think Malthouse would have selected Didak over Daic's if he coached him? His comment was merely to illustrate how Didak is viewed in the modern game by some.

That said Didak has a long, long way to go before he is in Daic's league.

 

[Dogs_Playing_Poker]

I think Daicos was a much better player, but you can look at it 2 ways. Daicos never had the world against him (for making silly mistakes on more than one occasion) and had to come out and play footy, whereas Didak has had to do it for a lot of his career and still play a high standard of footy(that in it self takes courage).

Daicos on the other hand was a star, no questions about it. I had the number 35 on my guernsey when I was a little fella, and now have the number 4. Daicos could kick them from anywhere on a consistant basis... Didak on the other hand misses more than what Daicos use to... Dont know how Dids goes with kicking a torp, but geez Daics use to kick a mean torpedo punt...

I think this debate has been started maybe 2-3 years to early... In a couple of years maybe we will see, but far to early to be judging!

 

[Jedi01]

I don't like anything about this article. It will just turn more people against Didak when the poor guy hasn't done anything wrong.

Dids is an awesome player, Daics was a champ. Enough said.

 

[mwalker]

It is an insult to one of the most brilliant, creative and dangerous footballers I've had the pleasure (and pain) of watching to even have Alan Didak mentioned in the same sentence as him, let alone when that sentence is to say Didak is a better player.

Alan Didak is a very good player, but Peter Daicos make a mark on the game that has been rarely surpassed.

Agreed. Daic's was unbelievably talented. For those (youngsters) that didn't see the Great Macedonian play and can't believe he is FAR better than Didak, rather than argue, just imagine how good he must have been.

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

The point of this thread would seem to be to gather people's opinions on the topic that is in the papers this morning, ie who is better, Didak or Daicos?

As to whether Didak is soft, I don't like using the word soft, but I think that of our selected team on the weekend, Didak would be the one who fears physical contact the most (possibly with the exception of Fraser). He actively avoids contact and panics when he anitcipates contact (ie bad handballs just to get rid of the ball or turning himself away from contact).

This is not to say he is a bad player, because he is just about our best. But he appears to be the most afraid of contact.

I got the point, I even clarified it in my post.

..My point is is that this thread should have read "do people agree with the claim that Dids is better than Daics"..

All it said was "I love daics, loved him as a kid....didak is soft". Whether Didak is soft has nothing to do with the debate and that's why this thread is a joke.

I didn't say didak wasn't soft i said that about pendlebury - i just think this thread in an unnecessary swipe to our best player for no apparent reason by an apparent 'supporter'.

 

[krisholio14]

Agreed. Daic's was unbelievably talented. For those (youngsters) that didn't see the Great Macedonian play and can't believe he is FAR better than Didak, rather than argue, just imagine how good he must have been.

Rather than imagine, check out some of Daicos's finest

[youtube]yUwKKL51bEc[/youtube]

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

Agreed. Daic's was unbelievably talented. For those (youngsters) that didn't see the Great Macedonian play and can't believe he is FAR better than Didak, rather than argue, just imagine how good he must have been.

I haven't seen anyone argue..
Daics was a superstar.

 

[Kirby]

Daicos was the most freakish player I have ever seen. Untouchable to this day.

I love Dids though, but he's just not in the same league really.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Just compare Daicos's wrong foot to Didak's.

 

[Pie eyed]

The best way to consider how good Daicos was is this;

Imagine the most stirring Rocca Torp from 65 out.
The best dribbling snap from the pocket from Daisy. (Daic's invented this and owns the patent.)
The trickiest sidestep, bounce, fake, sidestep and goal from Medhurst.
The unbelievable one hander, while being slung off the contest by any of our current forwards.
The graceful, raking kick from either pocket from Tarks.
The quickest get, give, get and goal from Leon.

Put those all together in one player and then watch him do it regularly.

And that list could get much bigger.

 

[Dylz48]

I never had the pleasure of watching Daics but when I mentioned to my Dad that Mick rated Dids above Daics. I got a 30 minute collingwood history lesson about how Daics would kick mercurial goals every week.

 

[MACDAICOS]

Didak is a star but isn't in the same class as Daicos

Daics is the best i've ever seen at Collingwood, I'm bias though

 

[CLUBMEDhurst]

having to endure the pain of the "New Magpies" John Cahill years, the sublime talents of the "Macedonian Marvel" kept me returning to the footy every week. Didak is a very good player and has a similar body shape to Daics (long torso, short legs, low centrre of gravity) but is not and I doubt will ever be, the player Daicos was.

 

[evo37]

The best way to consider how good Daicos was is this;

Imagine the most stirring Rocca Torp from 65 out.
The best dribbling snap from the pocket from Daisy. (Daic's invented this and owns the patent.)
The trickiest sidestep, bounce, fake, sidestep and goal from Medhurst.
The unbelievable one hander, while being slung off the contest by any of our current forwards.
The graceful, raking kick from either pocket from Tarks.
The quickest get, give, get and goal from Leon.

Put those all together in one player and then watch him do it regularly.

And that list could get much bigger.

Could not of said it better myself.

Daic's still one of the best players iv'e seen play. A freak

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I never had the pleasure of watching Daics but when I mentioned to my Dad that Mick rated Dids above Daics. I got a 30 minute collingwood history lesson about how Daics would kick mercurial goals every week.

Your old man let you off easy. I would have given you a two hour sermon.

 

[FuManchu]

Didak doesnt even come close to Daicos.

In my time there have been two truly elite, standout players at Collingwood.

Carmen and Daicos

under them would come Buckley, and then under buckley would come someone like Clement and maybe Greening

Didak is a long ways off being close to any of those

 

[lyfsux]

I went to school with Daics so I saw his whole career at Collingwood and have also seen Didaks career so far and although I think Dids is a "delicious" (sorry Bruce couldnt help myself) player Daics by a long way

 

[The Dawes]

As usual I reckon comments are being taken out of context to drum up a story.
Malthouse's Top Team is just that the top team he coached and he feels were or are at a stage where he can include them.

Funny that the papers only elicit comment from players he left out or compared to those on the list.
He also left out some bloody great players from all three sides, but he gave valid reasoning.

Do you think Malthouse would have selected Didak over Daic's if he coached him? His comment was merely to illustrate how Didak is viewed in the modern game by some.

That said Didak has a long, long way to go before he is in Daic's league.

Agree on all levels. The Hun generating debate for their own sake.

Seems to me the only people who could possibly suggest that Didak is in Daicos' league are the ones who are too young to remember the Macedonian Marvel.