Vic Daniel Andrews and the Statue of Limitations

[Sttew]

This is what the Federal Inquiry into the Covid response said about the new Chair of Orygen:

“The 868-page commonwealth report handed down on Tuesday included evidence that Victoria’s approach to restrictions was haphazard, poorly explained and without adequate consideration of mental health – particularly among young people and children.”

 

[Satan]

This is what the Federal Inquiry into the Covid response said about the new Chair of Orygen:

“The 868-page commonwealth report handed down on Tuesday included evidence that Victoria’s approach to restrictions was haphazard, poorly explained and without adequate consideration of mental health – particularly among young people and children.”

i did notice the irony

 

[Festerz]

This is what the Federal Inquiry into the Covid response said about the new Chair of Orygen:

“The 868-page commonwealth report handed down on Tuesday included evidence that Victoria’s approach to restrictions was haphazard, poorly explained and without adequate consideration of mental health – particularly among young people and children.”

It also found this:

“The delays in vaccine procurement and distribution, further complicated by concerns over serious side effects, ultimately affected the duration of the vaccine rollout and prolonged restrictive public health measures. The additional lockdowns that occurred as a result of these delays had a direct economic cost estimated at $31 billion,”

But I've always found that if you want to get a decent understanding of a public inquiry report or study in context it pays to read the full report, or at least the executive summary to get an understanding of the context of its conclusions.

As opposed to cutting and pasting single lines from tabloid newspaper reports cultivated and published purely for click bait party political effect.

Mistakes were made, many of them major mistakes, at all levels of government and all nations - reflective of the unique scale of the crisis and the manner in which it developed.

By far the most important and significant sections of the report, and its main focus, is to outline what needs to be done to prepare for the next pandemic to ensure those mistakes are not repeated. No surprises that the tabloids have given close to feck-all attention to this.

The full report is freely available here for those who want to really get an understanding of the issue, as opposed to those who continue to play cheap brain-dead politics.

 

[Sttew]

It also found this:

“The delays in vaccine procurement and distribution, further complicated by concerns over serious side effects, ultimately affected the duration of the vaccine rollout and prolonged restrictive public health measures. The additional lockdowns that occurred as a result of these delays had a direct economic cost estimated at $31 billion,”

But I've always found that if you want to get a decent understanding of a public inquiry report or study in context it pays to read the full report, or at least the executive summary to get an understanding of the context of its conclusions.

As opposed to cutting and pasting single lines from tabloid newspaper reports cultivated and published for click bait party political effect.

This is a thread about Daniel Andrews not Covid. It pays to consider context instead of sniping

 

[Festerz]

This is a thread about Daniel Andrews not Covid. It pays to consider context instead of sniping

Did someone mention 'irony'?

 

[Sttew]

Did someone mention 'irony'?

Yes. Not sure what you consider ironic other than the obvious - (a) Andrews has been appointed Chair of a global youth mental health research organisation and (b) less than a fortnight after accepting the appointment a Commonwealth report singles him out for the impact HIS haphazard, ill conceived and poorly explained policies had on the mental health of children and teenagers during the COVID pandemic.

 

[Jane Doe]

Did someone mention 'irony'?

Dan still has his cheerleaders on here it appears

 

[Carn The Berries]

Yes. Not sure what you consider ironic other than the obvious - (a) Andrews has been appointed Chair of a global youth mental health research organisation and (b) less than a fortnight after accepting the appointment a Commonwealth report singles him out for the impact HIS haphazard, ill conceived and poorly explained policies had on the mental health of children and teenagers during the COVID pandemic.

Are we really that shocked that a report into COVID found that it had poor mental health outcomes? Even the ABC was getting in on the act this morning, asking the Federal Health Minister if the Premiers should apologise to their constituents for how they managed the pandemic.

What an absolute load of rot...

 

[wannabewinner]

75k pa is cheap when you almost guarantee govt funding in tough times

Lots of NFPs going around. Just looked high compared to an NFP of only 62 million.

NFPs are big business. Think of Salvos, Vinnies, etc. you can look at their turnover at the ACNC website.

 

[Satan]

Lots of NFPs going around. Just looked high compared to an NFP of only 62 million.

NFPs are big business. Think of Salvos, Vinnies, etc. you can look at their turnover at the ACNC website.

getting an expremier on board is good business despite him allegedly causing clients for the organization based on report quoted

 

[eddiesmith]

getting an expremier on board is good business despite him allegedly causing clients for the organization based on report quoted

It’s why he’s perfect, guaranteed funding from the government and will bring in more clients, win-win!

 

[Sinjin Smith]

The whole thing is bullshit someone using RUOK anytime is not someone who is equipped for the answer not to be yes

peetoo makes very little sense to me at the best of times though

Oath!!

It's a wasteful feel good show of bullshit.

Don't get me wrong, I want my team to be mentally well and some go through more shit than others but I am not comfortable with anyone in my team bringing it to me in detail.

I'll give them leave with pay without taxing their annual leave to sort it out, give them flexibility and whatever else I can do in my control but **** me I am not equipped to be your therapist.

Life can be ****ed, you will need support, so get it from someone who can provide it
Corporates aren't those people

 

[Sinjin Smith]

I know board member salaries elsewhere and does not pass the pub test at all. 75k for attending maybe 6-10 meetings in the whole year!

That's pretty standard. Nice if you can get it.

They're paying for the person's connections not expertise.

 

[FIGJAM]

This is what the Federal Inquiry into the Covid response said about the new Chair of Orygen:

“The 868-page commonwealth report handed down on Tuesday included evidence that Victoria’s approach to restrictions was haphazard, poorly explained and without adequate consideration of mental health – particularly among young people and children.”

It’s sad that some of the Dan sycophants in here accused people of being “cookers” in daring to scrutinise his and his government’s general competence and the length and severity of some of the lockdown measures.

But the jury is in and the sycophants have lost their arguments. We are worse off in mental health, respect for government and have by miles the worst debt in the country.

Andrews’ legacy is that he left Victoria in a considerably worse state than when he took over.

 

[FIGJAM]

Dan still has his cheerleaders on here it appears

Does Festerz even live in Victoria, or is he just blindly propagating his Labor party agenda like he does across all of the other boards?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Does Festerz even live in Victoria, or is he just blindly propagating his Labor party agenda like he does across all of the other boards?

That's a bit rich, Janet.

 

[FIGJAM]

That's a bit rich, Janet.

Good to see the Moderator Troll in full flight across all boards too!

You were one of the primary Dan sycophants in the various threads, so commiserations on your loss.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Good to see the Moderator Troll in full flight across all boards too!

You were one of the primary Dan sycophants in the various threads, so commiserations on your loss.

I never voted for the guy, but he did retire undefeated.

 

[FIGJAM]

I never voted for the guy, but he did retire undefeated.

You voted for him metaphorically at least, as your posts were always supporting him and slagging off the Feds (who admittedly deserved their share of blame too).

 

[Pie eyed]

It also found this:

“The delays in vaccine procurement and distribution, further complicated by concerns over serious side effects, ultimately affected the duration of the vaccine rollout and prolonged restrictive public health measures. The additional lockdowns that occurred as a result of these delays had a direct economic cost estimated at $31 billion,”

But I've always found that if you want to get a decent understanding of a public inquiry report or study in context it pays to read the full report, or at least the executive summary to get an understanding of the context of its conclusions.

As opposed to cutting and pasting single lines from tabloid newspaper reports cultivated and published purely for click bait party political effect.

Mistakes were made, many of them major mistakes, at all levels of government and all nations - reflective of the unique scale of the crisis and the manner in which it developed.

By far the most important and significant sections of the report, and its main focus, is to outline what needs to be done to prepare for the next pandemic to ensure those mistakes are not repeated. No surprises that the tabloids have given close to feck-all attention to this.

The full report is freely available here for those who want to really get an understanding of the issue, as opposed to those who continue to play cheap brain-dead politics.

The report was overwhelming positives to the various State and territory responses and the overall response as a nation.

 

[Reg Grundy35]

Good to see the Moderator Troll in full flight across all boards too!

You were one of the primary Dan sycophants in the various threads, so commiserations on your loss.

What loss? last time i looked ALP were still running the show in Vic and the Libs were still shooting at each other?