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Let's hope so.

Looking at their results on the weekend aren't they doing well out of the alignment with North Melbourne!

Not a single Roo among the mentions for the Devils! And only one goalkicker.
 
Barge said:
Let's hope so.

Looking at their results on the weekend aren't they doing well out of the alignment with North Melbourne!

Not a single Roo among the mentions for the Devils! And only one goalkicker.
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probably cauz they dont give a F*** about playing for tasmania and wearing the map, they are just interested in getting a kick and hoping to get a senior call up. Thats why i think its not doing the devils any favours having the kangaroo allignment especially when they have put the map back on their jumper, as their are plenty of other tasmanian kids who would be proud to wear that jumper and would grab the opportunity with both hands
 

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Barge said:
Let's hope so.
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i too hate the current arangment with the kangas. but if Tassie are ever going to have a slight chance of getting an Afl team in the future, the Devils are going to have to be sucsessful.
I dont want to see the Devils given the arse, but i would like to see it re-structured as the stepping stone from a re-formed statewide leauge and also would love to see the Mariners back in the Tac cup. its the only way it will work, it has to be a fully Tassie team, stop this north vs south bs its probably part of what is holding it all back. The problem at the moment is that some of the best players in the state, dont want to play devils (let alone the premier leauge) for one reason or another, that needs to change.
When will Afl tas realise that it is the off field structure that needs to change first, the people being paid the big bucks to oversee all this clearly are not doing their jobs, Scott Wade and co have a look in the mirror, football in this state is in a far worse condition than it was when you took over!!!!
 
mr incredibe said:
i too hate the current arangment with the kangas. but if Tassie are ever going to have a slight chance of getting an Afl team in the future, the Devils are going to have to be sucsessful.
I dont want to see the Devils given the arse, but i would like to see it re-structured as the stepping stone from a re-formed statewide leauge and also would love to see the Mariners back in the Tac cup. its the only way it will work, it has to be a fully Tassie team, stop this north vs south bs its probably part of what is holding it all back. The problem at the moment is that some of the best players in the state, dont want to play devils (let alone the premier leauge) for one reason or another, that needs to change.
When will Afl tas realise that it is the off field structure that needs to change first, the people being paid the big bucks to oversee all this clearly are not doing their jobs, Scott Wade and co have a look in the mirror, football in this state is in a far worse condition than it was when you took over!!!!
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Heard on the news over here that since the AFL is looking to make hte VFL a reserves grade comp. again, you guys are looking at the SANFL.
 
MmkMrMackie said:
Heard on the news over here that since the AFL is looking to make hte VFL a reserves grade comp. again, you guys are looking at the SANFL.
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so afl ressies, for all teams or just victorian based?
so where does that leave the current vfl teams, does it stay the same but with zero listed players?
 
mr incredibe said:
so afl ressies, for all teams or just victorian based?
so where does that leave the current vfl teams, does it stay the same but with zero listed players?
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Not sure. I think theres a few threads about it. I've only heard rumours about a return to a reserves league though, and it was on the news that as a result of this, Tassie is looking at the SANFL/
 
no one would care if the devils folded. the concept is long broken.

i've said it before, i'll say it again:

when scott wade had the devils abandon the north of the state, they broke it. before, when matches were evenly split, they were getting 4000 a game at york park, and 3000 at north hobart. (then obviously the 10000 at bellerive, which is what convinved them to ditch launceston in the first place). back in those days, it was viewed as a trully state team, and even if they were going badly, it was still a treat to go and see them, because they were only in your area once a month. they ditched launceston, and now struggle to 1500 at the games. hobart now has them pretty much every week, and its no longer a treat to have the devils playing in that region- so now they suck, no one goes.

so what do they do now? there's nothing they can do, really. the north doesn't care, the south doesn't care. the only thing to do is really to get better. which they can't, and won't do with the kangaroos alignment.

who were people kidding when they were talking about how good the devils were when they made the prelim final? player list wise, the devils weren't that great. they certainly were no where near the teams that had effective allignments with afl clubs. it was the passion to represent the state that brought about these amazing results.

now the devils are full of jokers that couldn't give a stuff, they aren't getting the results, hobart have ditched them because they suck, and they've got no where else to run.

f*ck you scott wade. idiot.
(sorry, i just came from "the terraces" thread)
 
If we can't have a state league, which sadly we can't and that means the VFL is really the only option, then let Hobart keep the Devils - picking from the SFL - and a northern team (NTFL based) start up splitting games between Launceston and the coast. At least that way the north-west might get more than one game a year above bush league standard.
No AFL club alignments, the whole idea of the Devils originally was to give Tasmanians a "pathway", that doesn't exist if the side is loaded with AFL players who hold the state in utter contempt.
 
I found it interesting the other day that Scott Wade said the only way to challenge for a VFL flag is to (a) have access to AFL listed players or (b) spend significant amounts of money recruiting former AFL players .... money we don't have.

Did you ever consider the reason you're supposedly broke is because you spent so much recruiting Heatley, Cripps, Doering, etc?!?!

Wonder what the next excuse will be?
 
AFL Tas gets "Significant" funding from the AFL.

That funding isn't sent down to the SFL, so not sure which bank account Wadey is checking the balance of.
 
But it's NOT a pathway. It is doing absolutely diddly squat for the progression of footballers and football in the state in general.
 

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I listened to some of the commentary on ABC radio of the game between Geelong and Port Adelaide and they made it sound like the inclusion of the Devils in the SANFL was a done deal from 2008.

Do they know something we don't?
 
How can the Kangas be going so well in the AFL yet the Devils are crap. Sure the Kangas must have some depth.

WELL let me tell you, the roos/devils players must hate flying in to tassie to play with a bunch of unprofessional ****ers. The Devils STAR recruits, Koul hegbjhgjhgfd whatever, Thurley (done nothing) coach (drunk every weekend) and players aledgedly on the drugs. A real professional outfit. Then AFL TAS another bunch of wannabe's.
 
Ozguy said:
But it's NOT a pathway. It is doing absolutely diddly squat for the progression of footballers and football in the state in general.
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i know! that was my point! we shouldn't be so much worried about winning a vfl premiership... no one cares anyway. it should be a pathway, nothing more, nothing less. so i would suggest that it be pretty much a team that should be at least half under the age of 22, no alignments, and coaching should be based on development.
 
Another loss this week and now the season looks hopeless for the Devils(sob!) Obviously the regional training isn't working, hard to get a cohesive unit from this though the thought was good.
Next Year
1. Go back to a central location, preferably Hobart(we don't want Wade moving up North, we like things as they are)
2. Form a squad of about 80 plus and put teams in the SFL consisting of players who don't make the Devils squad. This would ensure a cohesive unit and remove the inconvenience to clubs of losing players to the Devils at any time if they are performing well. With the unders benefiting from training with the Devils it would be a pathway to the Mariners for them.
Salary cap would be a problem that would need to be worked out to keep the SFL comp an even playing field.
3. Stand alone without any alliance, this will show the strength of the State for any future VFL comps or AFL origin considerations.
4. Don't even contemplate the SANFL, the VFL comp is still available to stand alone teams and we should be aiming to meet the criteria to continue there.
 
roorat said:
2. Form a squad of about 80 plus and put teams in the SFL consisting of players who don't make the Devils squad.
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Umm NO. Why should SFL clubs have to play against a side/s that would have every unfair advantage under the sun?
 
Wilbur35 said:
I listened to some of the commentary on ABC radio of the game between Geelong and Port Adelaide and they made it sound like the inclusion of the Devils in the SANFL was a done deal from 2008.

Do they know something we don't?
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I was watching North Adelaide v Centrals on ABC2 the other night and the commentators were talking a bit about it, they seemed quite keen on the idea, even if they didn't know the nickname of the team - called them the Tigers.
They mentioned that there had been some interest shown by some of the clubs (North Adelaide was one in particular) and by Leigh Wicker (one of the head honcho's of the SANFL).
Personally, I don't like the idea of AFL Tasmania's team bolstering the coffers of South Australian football, like they currently do with Victorian football, yet are continuing to put little or no money or time into Tasmanian football below the Devils.

An article from the North Adelaide Roosters website found Here
Tasmania for the SANFL?

With the AFL second tier competition review nearing completion, it will be interesting to see if Tasmania remains in the VFL or joins the SANFL. The current Victorian Football League comprises some stand alone Clubs which do not receive the services of any AFL players. The majority are aligned to an AFL Club with many of their players simply playing on Saturdays and never actually becoming part of their host Club.
With Tasmania aligned to North Melbourne, nominated players fly in on a Friday night, play and return to Melbourne - not an ideal situation. Imagine our own Matty Campbell being asked to do that - a far cry from the warmth of the Northern Territory!

There are many positives to having Tasmania join the SANFL, consider the following:

► The current SANFL 9 team structure necessitates three byes resulting in a long 23 week season.
► The introduction of Tasmania would result in a ten team competition thus eliminating the bye. Hypothetically we could have an eighteen game season, and even consider playing the Grand Final the week before the AFL on the Sunday - as is the case in the WAFL and VFL.
► Tasmania currently attracts excellent crowds for their home games which would be great experience for our players.
► Tasmania already has the cost of travel to Victoria for away games, why not an extra 30 minutes in the air and come to SA? The SANFL positions itself as the premier State League - Tasmania's inclusion would be a boost to that claim.

Change is unpalatable but sometimes inevitable in football, as is evidenced in the AFL. When one looks at the last 25 years, there have been so many changes in South Australia - lifestyles, seven day retail trading, two AFL Clubs and more social choices. It could be seen as a concern that the SANFL is still trying to play football on 9 suburban ovals maintaining a four team structure - Seniors, Reserves, U/19s and U17s. The challenge of bringing Tasmania would be a bold initiative and certainly a significant change.
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Ozguy said:
Umm NO. Why should SFL clubs have to play against a side/s that would have every unfair advantage under the sun?
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Can see your point, under the present system with Wade(who art in heaven) in charge and answerable to the State and the AFL is an impossible situation. This was shown recently when Tassies omission from the State of Origin series was talked about and Wade(who art in heaven) was on the fence, unable to make any positive comments either way in fear of offending one football body or another. The leader of football in our State should have the best interests of our state foremost, not answerable to the AFL and not cowtow to the AFL for funding dollars.
In regard to Devils reserves in the SFL, was just an idea but the set up and guide lines would probably take forever to suit all clubs. Maybe VFL reserves and Mariners would suit better but the cost just means more dollars taken away from the football that matters to most Tasmanians.
 
i would prefer to see the devils in the SANFL actually. football victoria have shown themselves to care nothing for tasmania, other than for the money it brings to their game. i don't know what, but maybe south australia would give something back.

the SANFL is also a better standard comp, in the view of most of the people in the know. i certainly find it easier to watch late at night on abc2 than i do the vfl.

and if we leave the vfl, we can ditch this God-awful allignment.

my first choice would be a stand alone devils team in a comp of AFL reserves teams. a tassie team in what would undisputably be the 2nd best comp in the land.

but my second choice would certainly be to enter the SANFL, rather than and AFL player-less vfa.


had to laugh at some idiot who wrote to the sports editor complaining about tassie potentially playing against crappy suburban sides in SA. i didn't realise until reading his letter what thriving metropolis' werribee and williamstown are!


any situation is better than the present one- this farce is not representative of tassie. as i've said on here before- i don't care if the devils never win a game. if its tasmanians getting beat, i don't care. but i have grave objections to a tassie side full of blow ins getting beat week after week under the banner of tasmania, with the map on their chest.
 
Checking out the VFL ladder in the Hun, thought they had missed Tassie, this is how it appears, pretty apt actually
TeamP W L D B For Ag % Pts
[/B]Williamstown 10 7 1 2 1 1089 827 131.6 32
Sandringham 10 8 2 0 1 1107 908 121.9 32
Geelong 10 7 3 0 1 1145 809 141.5 28
Coburg Tigers 10 6 4 0 1 1033 970 106.4 24
North Ballarat 11 6 5 0 0 1107 1192 92.8 24
Port Melbourne 10 5 4 1 1 1063 968 109.8 22
Northern Bullants 10 5 5 0 1 864 916 94.3 20
Werribee 10 4 6 0 1 1087 1001 108.5 16
Bendigo Bombers 10 4 6 0 1 980 948 103.3 16
Frankston 9 4 5 0 2 753 801 94.0 16
Casey Scorpions 10 3 6 1 1 948 1084 87.4 14
Box Hill Hawks 10 3 7 0 1 747 1080 69.1 12







Tasmania 10 1 9 0 1 781 1200 65.0 4

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/printpage/0,8036,21961183%5E19895,00.html
 
roorat said:
Checking out the VFL ladder in the Hun, thought they had missed Tassie, this is how it appears, pretty apt actually
TeamP W L D B For Ag % Pts
[/b]Williamstown 10 7 1 2 1 1089 827 131.6 32
Sandringham 10 8 2 0 1 1107 908 121.9 32
Geelong 10 7 3 0 1 1145 809 141.5 28
Coburg Tigers 10 6 4 0 1 1033 970 106.4 24
North Ballarat 11 6 5 0 0 1107 1192 92.8 24
Port Melbourne 10 5 4 1 1 1063 968 109.8 22
Northern Bullants 10 5 5 0 1 864 916 94.3 20
Werribee 10 4 6 0 1 1087 1001 108.5 16
Bendigo Bombers 10 4 6 0 1 980 948 103.3 16
Frankston 9 4 5 0 2 753 801 94.0 16
Casey Scorpions 10 3 6 1 1 948 1084 87.4 14
Box Hill Hawks 10 3 7 0 1 747 1080 69.1 12







Tasmania 10 1 9 0 1 781 1200 65.0 4

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/printpage/0,8036,21961183%5E19895,00.html
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:D :thumbsu:
 
Tassie not having a good year, some of those North Melbourne blokes not paying there way, and what abouts the former AFL star recuirts in Paul Koulouriotis and Cameron Thurley, have they done anything in 2007 for the Tassie Devils.
 

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