Autopsy Dogs apparently NOT out coached again... but still find a way to lose 78 v 73

[spinningmagnets]

I wonder if that was Kingy?

He and Joel Corey were credited.

 

[doggies ftw]

Good point.

In the 2016 GF, Libba went to JJKennedy after half time. IIRC, it was a suggestion from 'a member of the coaching panel'.
Worked beautifully.

I wonder if that was Kingy?
Strongly doubt it was Bevo's idea.

Given that such a move helped get us a flag, I would've thought Bevo would see the value in it.

Apparently not.

It’s being made clearer and clearer that Bev is not much chop as a coach without smarter footy minds alongside him. Now that our department sucks he’s being shown up as out of his depth big time.

Actually eye opening how poorly he reads the game, he has literally zero handle on a game on match day.

Thank the lord we had such strong support in 2016 otherwise history might read a little differently…

 

[Munnez]

35, was 52-17 about a third of the way through the third quarter.

Let’s all let that sink in. We had three times the amount of points the opposition had partway through the third quarter, and lost.

Unfortunately it won’t be a coach killer though. Something something injuries, something something process this, something something need to take our chances.

At some point he being has to bear some of the responsibility for presiding over losing the same way time and time again. Need to recognise a trend and figure out something to combat it, not just let it roll along

 

[Oliver G]

Here's a snapshot of those who spent time forward. Ranked according to pressure acts from the least number of pressure acts to the most.

View attachment 1759798

3, possibly 4 players from this group are going to get their arses handed to them on Monday. Can you guess which ones?

Here is the full rundown of pressure inside 50 and frankly it's embarrassing...

Pressure Guage - F50
WB: 168 (Poor)
GW: 209 (Elite)

Pressure Points - F50 - WB
20 - Naughton
15 - Vandermeer
12 - West
11 - Daniel
11 - Treloar
8 - Macrae
8 - Bontempelli
8 - Scott
7 - Ugle-Hagen
5 - Poulter
5 - Liberatore
5 - B. Smith
5 - Weightman
3 - Lobb

Pressure Points - F50 - GWS
34 - Greene
33 - Bedford
28 - Kelly
20 - Cumming
16 - Brown
13 - Callaghan
13 - Lloyd
12 - Daniels
11 - Keeffe
9 - Ward
8 - Cadman
7 - Riccardi
7 - Whitfield
5 - Haynes
1 - Himmelberg
1 - Angwin

Tackle Efficiency - F50
WB: 64%
GW: 71%

Tackles Inside 50
WB: 7
GW: 22

Tackles Inside 50 - WB
2 - West
1 - Macrae, Poulter, Scott, Treloar, Vandermeer

Tackles Inside 50 - GWS
5 - Bedford
4 - Kelly
3 - Greene
2 - Brown, Cumming
1 - Callaghan, Keeffe, Lloyd, Riccardi, Whitfield

 

[Munnez]

Caleb was exposed for leg speed a bit today imho.

Bedford sliced us repeatedly with dash out of D50 and we could get anywhere near him. Was an opening link in a number of chains

 

[Munnez]

Thought English was very good today. Very good.

English battled it hard today but still needed a chop out. It makes not moving Naughts back even harder to fathom

 

[Munnez]

I maintain that Bailey Dale got Greene into the game with the holding free which resulted in a goal.

Thought Dale was pretty stiff there Grub was pushing him from behind. Was just trying to stabilise himself didn't impede the Grub at all should have been play on

 

[Dog 36]

Don’t worry there’s pressure coming on Bevo but I don’t think we’ve got the balls to make any drastic moves

Not sure who you’re talking about when you say President as I’m yet to see or hear from any president for the last 2 years

Absolutely headless after today should not have lost that

Where is this anticipated pressure coming from ? Any idea?

 

[arkie]

I haven’t posted anything after this loss on here, but geez, VDM made really basic errors that cost us as a team on a number of occasions. He seems to lack basic awareness. I’m not sure if he’ll ever be in a best 22. He’s certainly not in ours I’d imagine.

Rarely do I think one player can generally cost a team, but this game stood out. Anthony Scott was definitely another.

 

[TMoney22]

On Fri night the pies threw Howe forward in the last qtr and kicked 3 goals. I don't think he has played forward for a long time. Ya think Bevo would make that move?

Also watched Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

and other Carlton small forwards borderline cheat to block Curnows opponents. I could count the number of times I've seen us to this all year on one hand.

 

[The Inbetweener]

Here is the full rundown of pressure inside 50 and frankly it's embarrassing...

Pressure Guage - F50
WB: 168 (Poor)
GW: 209 (Elite)

Pressure Points - F50 - WB
20 - Naughton
15 - Vandermeer
12 - West
11 - Daniel
11 - Treloar
8 - Macrae
8 - Bontempelli
8 - Scott
7 - Ugle-Hagen
5 - Poulter
5 - Liberatore
5 - B. Smith
5 - Weightman
3 - Lobb

Pressure Points - F50 - GWS
34 - Greene
33 - Bedford
28 - Kelly
20 - Cumming
16 - Brown
13 - Callaghan
13 - Lloyd
12 - Daniels
11 - Keeffe
9 - Ward
8 - Cadman
7 - Riccardi
7 - Whitfield
5 - Haynes
1 - Himmelberg
1 - Angwin

Tackle Efficiency - F50
WB: 64%
GW: 71%

Tackles Inside 50
WB: 7
GW: 22

Tackles Inside 50 - WB
2 - West
1 - Macrae, Poulter, Scott, Treloar, Vandermeer

Tackles Inside 50 - GWS
5 - Bedford
4 - Kelly
3 - Greene
2 - Brown, Cumming
1 - Callaghan, Keeffe, Lloyd, Riccardi, Whitfield

OG what was the expected score? Sorry if you’ve already posted

 

[Munnez]

At the time I could see why he’d make that choice but in the clear light of day we probably just needed to take 10 mins off the clock. Undoubtedly Naughton back v Lobb would have helped us achieve that.

At least Naughts has at least been an actual defender. It wasn't the time to experiment with Lobb as FB

 

[Kermit]

If Bruce retires then the club should hire him as our new forwards coach

This is not the worst idea tbh. Couldn’t hurt and he has been doing coaching work with the AFLW team

 

[Chicago1]

I haven't felt so down a day after a game in a while. There was just something about the way that we lost that doesn't sit right. I now dread Friday's game against Richmond.

A friend offered to drive out here to Melton from Kensington, pick me up and accompany me to a game since I will need help, then drive me back home after the match. I had planned on our afternoon match against West Coast next month. It's been five years since I've seen us play, longer than any time that I lived in the states. I just don't know if it will be worth the physical effort if we play like we did yesterday. Never thought I'd feel like that.

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[_Mike_]

I have been praising JUH as a special player in the future the way he has developed but I was extremely disappointed with a lot of his lack of effort yesterday when the ball hit the ground.

Both JUH & Weightman were non existent in terms of impact/influence. At the 2min mark of the 4th, Weightman jumps and spoils English going for a mark in the middle, the ball goes to their end...

Astro was trying but had f-all support

 

[Munnez]

Losing from that position with a last quarter kicking with a strong wind is pretty poor. Needed to park the bus in the third and absorb their run and didn’t. Lobb to full back probably straight into Bev’s top 10 too smart by half moves, sadly.

Time to bite the bullet and play A. Jones, Garcia and O’Donnell and give Clarke and Busslinger their turns over the last few weeks. We’re not beating any serious football sides this year playing some unmotivated and dour football, a debut or two could be a good spark.

Need to find out if some of these draftees are going to take us forward or if we need to look elsewhere for our improvement

 

[Oliver G]

OG what was the expected score? Sorry if you’ve already posted

Expected Score / Actual Score
WB: 83 / 73 (-10)
GW: 88 / 78 (-10)

Expected Margin: -5 / -5

 

[Dogs Rule]

Not a fan of Clickbait Cornes, but he nails it. A huge waste. But, the club is too gutless to change.

 

[Dog 36]

Not a fan of Clickbait Cornes, but he nails it. A huge waste. But, the club is too gutless to change.

Cornes is saying what many of us are thinking but we have no avenue to express it.

Cornes has the avenue but get shot down because of who he is etc etc

Put aside who says it and focus on what is said makes sense

 

[Next Waiting]

Here is the full rundown of pressure inside 50 and frankly it's embarrassing...

Pressure Guage - F50
WB: 168 (Poor)
GW: 209 (Elite)

Pressure Points - F50 - WB
20 - Naughton
15 - Vandermeer
12 - West
11 - Daniel
11 - Treloar
8 - Macrae
8 - Bontempelli
8 - Scott
7 - Ugle-Hagen
5 - Poulter
5 - Liberatore
5 - B. Smith
5 - Weightman
3 - Lobb

Pressure Points - F50 - GWS
34 - Greene
33 - Bedford
28 - Kelly
20 - Cumming
16 - Brown
13 - Callaghan
13 - Lloyd
12 - Daniels
11 - Keeffe
9 - Ward
8 - Cadman
7 - Riccardi
7 - Whitfield
5 - Haynes
1 - Himmelberg
1 - Angwin

Tackle Efficiency - F50
WB: 64%
GW: 71%

Tackles Inside 50
WB: 7
GW: 22

Tackles Inside 50 - WB
2 - West
1 - Macrae, Poulter, Scott, Treloar, Vandermeer

Tackles Inside 50 - GWS
5 - Bedford
4 - Kelly
3 - Greene
2 - Brown, Cumming
1 - Callaghan, Keeffe, Lloyd, Riccardi, Whitfield

Always the gentleman OG. Embarrassing is but one of the several words (many of them colourful adjectives) that I would use to describe that.

This might be the subject that Bevo indicated he was "processing". Beware the wrath of a patient man.

 

[Dog 36]

Watching Tiggers vs Dees I heard the tiggers STAND IN COACH say the plan today was pressure and play on quickly with speed of ball not to allow Dees time to set up their defence

There is a Plan and everybody is on the same page.

Confusion reigns at WO

 

[GetDimmaBack]

I haven't felt so down a day after a game in a while. There was just something about the way that we lost that doesn't sit right. I now dread Friday's game against Richmond.

A friend offered to drive out here to Melton from Kensington, pick me up and accompany me to a game since I will need help, then drive me back home after the match. I had planned on our afternoon match against West Coast next month. It's been five years since I've seen us play, longer than any time that I lived in the states. I just don't know if it will be worth the physical effort if we play like we did yesterday. Never thought I'd feel like that.

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I'm certainly with you on your last point, C1.

We're a couple of hours out of town, and have had reserved seats on level 1 since 2000. This is the first time I've felt the drive to be not worth the effort. That includes 2003 - 4, when I enjoyed watching the development of Cooney, Griff, et.al.

This year has been a case of so much expectation, so little joy.

 

[In Repair]

It will be very extremely interesting to know what the problem with Daniel and Smith was in last quarter. Absolutely no mention was made of either in the presser and the question wasn't asked.

This is speculation of course, but if one or both of them turned out to be unwell, part of Bevo's "processing" might be processing how they got onto the park in the first place and then were unable to see the game out in a situation where all hands were required on deck. In the absence of any factual information (which of course we're not really interested in) there's a hint of groundhog day about it.

I saw Caleb out and about on Friday day socialising with other players. While I can’t speak for earlier in the week he did not appear to be unwell.

 

[Munnez]

Yesterday was such a nice day. Thought Cleary was impressive. And I’m in love with West’s hardness. I think West has a future

West has to play as a mid or not at all he is too slow to make it as a HF. Playing as a mid minimises the down side of that lack of speed . We do need to find some midfield speed though to be able to take the game on

 

[Bulldog in Kiev]

Cornes has been on the money all season when it comes to the dogs. Spot on here